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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Imowface on April 04, 2011, 03:25:15 AM
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not sure how often these polls happen but I think it would be neat to have a new plane poll every January or something like that
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-1 I don't want another American bomber :bolt:
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Not a " Majority rules" kind of guy, huh? :P
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+1
I think the last poll was about 4 or 5 years ago.
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Not a " Majority rules" kind of guy, huh? :P
Not at all, I'm always amused by the stupid behavior of people as a group. A good example is how people position themselves in a crowded train, or how bongo lines form in aces high.
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+1
I think the last poll was about 4 or 5 years ago.
Wasn't there one just last year? For the B-29?
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Wasn't there one just last year? For the B-29?
I meant the one before that was 4 or 5 years ago.
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You're right.. the previous poll was in .. 2007 or so? The only other one I remember is the one where we had the 47N and/or M in the choices. There might've been another one before that where the Ta 152 was a choice, or maybe that was the same one.
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I dunno, HTC is doing a good job of balancing out the plane set, and adding more historacle planes, so I figured a once a year poll and we may get some neat and exotic ( not nesecarly LW stuff) planes ie. instead of them adding a random cool plane, they could focus on balancing and gap fillers, then at the end of the year we could all vote in a "treat"
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I dunno, HTC is doing a good job of balancing out the plane set, and adding more historacle planes, so I figured a once a year poll and we may get some neat and exotic ( not nesecarly LW stuff) planes ie. instead of them adding a random cool plane, they could focus on balancing and gap fillers, then at the end of the year we could all vote in a "treat"
That. Polls would give us more big ugly fat fellas, while we need gap fillers, luftw. bomber, russian, italian rides, japanese planes.
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One or two votes a year wouldn't do much harm in the grand scheme of things.
It's most likely the only way we'll ever see aircraft such as the Meteor and A-26 in the skies of AH anytime soon.
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Hey, if you advertise that meteor everywhere, sooner or later you will get it without a poll ;)
Anyway, one poll in the year wont do any bad effect. Players get their most wanted ride, then HTC still can balance with an other addition.
Edit: lol Maker... youre here for a much longer time than me, i didnt know that. Good point there. Meteor would be a new fighter airframe tho... well not the most needed, but still a new fighter.
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One or two votes a year wouldn't do much harm in the grand scheme of things.
It's most likely the only way we'll ever see aircraft such as the Meteor and A-26 in the skies of AH anytime soon.
Since AHII was introduced in 2004, we've gotten three totally new fighter airframes into the game. Three. So, unless we somehow get back to the plane introduction rates of AHI (which I doubt will happen for several reasons), two polls per year would certainly be two USAAF/USN aircraft too many.
Three. I sure as h*ll hope that A-26 and Meteor won't find their way to AH anytime soon.
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ki84, i16, p39, brewster, b24, b25, b29, G4m are all post ah2 standard aircraft. b24 and ki84 were the first higher standard models each using a 1024x1024 texturemap.
the 3d model updates have been extensive and new varients have been added during most of the 3d model updates to many aircraft types.
the list of planes that need updating still are:
Bf110 series
tempest
hurricane series
a20/boston series
p40 series
lancaster
me163
ar234
ju87
ju88
c202
c205
ki61
b5n
d3a
ki67
yak series
panzer iv
tiger
m3
m16
m8
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ki84, i16, p39, brewster, b24, b25, b29, G4m are all post ah2 standard aircraft.
Indeed. And just like I said, three of them are fighters.
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ki84,p39,i16, brewster = 3?
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Maybe HTC could have a US aircraft exclusion. :D
BTW, should we also include the new GV frames? Sherman, Pather, Whirb, SDK, Jeep.
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That's a bloody long list Fester.
I wouldn't complain if HTC focused mainly on bringing the older planes up to date. Even if it did mean I couldn't whizzbang around in my Meteor F Mk. 3 for a further 5 years.
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ki84,p39,i16, brewster = 3?
Yeh, I stand corrected. Was thinking of fall of 2005 when the Spits and 109s were updated. Three since then really. Wrote about one occasion and thought about the other.
Anyway, four. Less than a fighter per year on average. Nothing wrong with it per se, I just hope that the choises are good when the rare occasion of getting a new fighter happens. :)
Maybe HTC could have a US aircraft exclusion for a couple votes. :D
That would be one way to do it, true. :D With good initial choises the polls would be really interesting. :)
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Yep, just let HTC decide on US models, and leave the funky stuff to us :)
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Ignoring sub-models of existing "names" is a false argument. The P-47N is so radically different from the P-47Ds it replaces it's comparing apples to oranges.
The 109 G-14 is a major improvement over our G-6, but a major step below the 109K4. You can't say it's unnecessary or irrelevant.
The A6M3 has just been anounced. Would you say it was just another a6m2?
Or, to hit closer to home, would you say the B-339E (if added) is "just another Brewster"?
You can't just discount them because their are already "other" versions of that plane in-game. While some may be similar (P-38s, P-47N/M) many are totally different.
Going from memory on new fighter planes introduced since the B-24 when standards were upgraded:
F4U-1
F4U-1A
P-38J
P-39D
P-39Q
P-47N
P-47M
Mossie 6 (You could argue this! Totally different plane!)
Brewster
Bf109G-14
A6M3
Ki-84
I-16
So it's not as if they're IGNORING fighters, which one might read you have suggested.
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Ignoring sub-models of existing "names" is a false argument. The P-47N is so radically different from the P-47Ds it replaces it's comparing apples to oranges.
The 109 G-14 is a major improvement over our G-6, but a major step below the 109K4. You can't say it's unnecessary or irrelevant.
The A6M3 has just been anounced. Would you say it was just another a6m2?
Or, to hit closer to home, would you say the B-339E (if added) is "just another Brewster"?
You can't just discount them because their are already "other" versions of that plane in-game. While some may be similar (P-38s, P-47N/M) many are totally different.
Going from memory on new fighter planes introduced since the B-24 when standards were upgraded:
F4U-1
F4U-1A
P-38J
P-39D
P-39Q
P-47N
P-47M
Mossie 6 (You could argue this! Totally different plane!)
Brewster
Bf109G-14
A6M3
Ki-84
I-16
So it's not as if they're IGNORING fighters, which one might read you have suggested.
P-38G was introduced the same time as the P-38J.
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Ignoring sub-models of existing "names" is a false argument. The P-47N is so radically different from the P-47Ds it replaces it's comparing apples to oranges.
The 109 G-14 is a major improvement over our G-6, but a major step below the 109K4. You can't say it's unnecessary or irrelevant.
The A6M3 has just been anounced. Would you say it was just another a6m2?
Or, to hit closer to home, would you say the B-339E (if added) is "just another Brewster"?
You can't just discount them because their are already "other" versions of that plane in-game. While some may be similar (P-38s, P-47N/M) many are totally different.
Going from memory on new fighter planes introduced since the B-24 when standards were upgraded:
F4U-1
F4U-1A
P-38J
P-39D
P-39Q
P-47N
P-47M
Mossie 6 (You could argue this! Totally different plane!)
Brewster
Bf109G-14
A6M3
Ki-84
I-16
So it's not as if they're IGNORING fighters, which one might read you have suggested.
If it's me who you are trying to blah blah at...
Blah blah blah. How can what I say really be "a false argument" when I'm not really arguing about anything?
I said what I said. Take it as I said it and don't read anything more into it as it's best you don't try...for several reasons.
I'm well aware what has been added to this sim and when...don't really need the lecture.
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You said blah blah blah, and I replied, you can't ignore the other contributions just because they have similar names.
AckAck: Substitute whatever the newer model P-38 was. I don't recall, thought the PJ was the new one, must be the L.
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It's not as if the community just got to pick an aircraft at random, remember HTC picked the choices for the polls. They didn't put a plane in the list they aren't willing to introduce to the game. New planes are fun, but more and more I'd like them to focus on updating the cockpits.
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will the CLAW and M-18 be on the next poll :noid :noid :noid
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You said blah blah blah, and I replied, you can't ignore the other contributions just because they have similar names.
I said "new air frames" and those are which happen to 'tickle my fancy'. That's all. As there's a big difference in my interest between variants and completely new air frames, there's also a big difference in the workload they require.
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I'd like to see the 410 and A26.
Hopefully the 410 is already in development
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Short Stirling :noid
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We don't need just one random plane for the MA, we need planes that fill the planeset in for the countries that are lacking key elements IE Japan and Russia.
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I see a lot of people use the word "need" when they really mean is "want".
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The only U.S. aircraft that I would like the see is the B-25J. IMO we should get the B-25J because the lack of defensive firepower on the B-25C.
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The only U.S. aircraft that I would like the see is the B-25J. IMO we should get the B-25J because the lack of defensive firepower on the B-25C.
you want defensive firepower? ask for the YB-40 :noid
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New fighter airframewise (sorry USSR), I would love to see any of the following: J2M3/J2M5, Ki-43-I/Ki-43-II, Ki-44-II, Ki-45, Ki-102, Me410, Beaufighter, Whirlwind, P-61A/P-61B, Ju88C-6, Ju88G-7.
Going from memory on new fighter planes introduced since the B-24 when standards were upgraded:
F4U-1
F4U-1A
P-38J
P-39D
P-39Q
P-47N
P-47M
Mossie 6 (You could argue this! Totally different plane!)
Brewster
Bf109G-14
A6M3
Ki-84
I-16
F4U-1 was added in AH1. P-38G was added in AH2, as were the Spitfire Mk VIII and Spitfire Mk XVI. I'd include the Ki-84 in the AH2 fighter list as well. If you count the Mosquito Mk VI as an arguably new aircraft, you would have to do the same for the Spitfire Mk Vb as well.
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You and me are pretty much on the same page for what we want to see added Karnak, for the Ki-44, I would have the IIb and IIc though, as no matter how bad the Ho-301 would be, they would be usefull for 1 pass kills on bombers
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Karnak: The Spit5 was reverted back to normal. Don't forget it started the way it is now, only with 2x the cannon ammo. They just restored it.
As for the P-38G, I don't think you're right. I recall 2 P-38 models going way way way back. One was the G and the other I thought the L. When we had the 38s remodeled/updated they added the J. I recall all the fuss on the forums, people kept calling it the PJ etc. Now I could be getting the J and L mixed up because they are so similar, however I'm pretty sure the G was around for a long time before that.
P.S. I did include the Ki-84... Look at the bottom of my list :)
Iwo: The 40mm was such a terrible weapon with such bad speed and trajectory and reliability that you had to fire it nearly point blank, in which case it wasn't doing you any good. That's why they went to the 20mm loadout after the abyssmal (yes, abyssmal) performance of the 40mm. The Japanese 40mm and 30mm guns were really not desirable weapons.
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As for the P-38G, I don't think you're right. I recall 2 P-38 models going way way way back. One was the G and the other I thought the L. When we had the 38s remodeled/updated they added the J. I recall all the fuss on the forums, people kept calling it the PJ etc. Now I could be getting the J and L mixed up because they are so similar, however I'm pretty sure the G was around for a long time before that.
The P-38G and the P-38J were added at the same time when AH was updated to AH2. Prior to that we only had the P-38L.
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