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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: VAMPIRE 2? on April 04, 2011, 03:29:13 AM
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I filed for my FASFA and was declined due to this matter. I'm fully up to speed now on what it is and what it's for, but since I am now 28 years of age, I'm to late and crap outa luck....??? I'm writing a letter to SSS now to hopefully have this issue resolved. I'm more or less curious if this is a rather unheard of problem. I'm from a small town with a graduating class of 60 students and a small staffed high school. (and hearing difficulty) How could I have missed such a crucial document?! as of now It may take years more to get a 4 year degree. < discouraging and depressing. am I really stuck laying brick next to grungy old broken back bar supporting masons? makes me want to drink too..... looking for a light at the end of this tunnel. :salute
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Be careful, it might be the train!
Good luck, being a peasant aint all bad...we get to eat cake.
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If you fail to register at 18 with Selective Service, there's a lot more than just FAFSA.
You can't work for Fed. Gov. for one thing. There's quite a few penalties.
<S> Oz
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That is odd when I got home from school on my 18th birthday I had two pieces of mail waiting for me. One was from Gillette, free Mach 3, and the other was a card from selective services.
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That is odd when I got home from school on my 18th birthday I had two pieces of mail waiting for me. One was from Gillette, free Mach 3, and the other was a card from selective services.
You too?? lol
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WHOA!!!!
Squid hasn't gotten one yet. I'll get THAT fixed
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Dicho -- why would squid need a mach 3? :P
Same here when I turned 18 had the selective service card in the mail. My oldest who's now 19 registered when his drivers license expired at 18 -- stupid state law -- need one type of license before 18, another for 18 to 21 and yet another when he's 21. All full price and somehow his 18-21 expired when he was 19. So he'll have had 4 licenses in about 4 years.
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I didn't get my notice from selective service at 18, as I had already enlisted in the USAF at 17. Had to register once I got out later.
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Dicho -- why would squid need a mach 3? :P
Same here when I turned 18 had the selective service card in the mail. My oldest who's now 19 registered when his drivers license expired at 18 -- stupid state law -- need one type of license before 18, another for 18 to 21 and yet another when he's 21. All full price and somehow his 18-21 expired when he was 19. So he'll have had 4 licenses in about 4 years.
because he has a fuzzier face than pop dude :D
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I didn't get my notice from selective service at 18, as I had already enlisted in the USAF at 17. Had to register once I got out later.
Now that is funny. The funnier thing is that your DD 214 is like a get out of draft free card. :devil
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I didn't get my notice from selective service at 18, as I had already enlisted in the USAF at 17. Had to register once I got out later.
I got a nastygram from Selective service while I was out in Colorado when I was 19. It claimed I hadn't
registered for selective service. I wrote back that I HAD registered at 18 and that if they didn't like it they
could contact me via my commanding officer at Lowery AFB, Denver, Co. :D
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I got a nastygram from Selective service while I was out in Colorado when I was 19. It claimed I hadn't
registered for selective service. I wrote back that I HAD registered at 18 and that if they didn't like it they
could contact me via my commanding officer at Lowery AFB, Denver, Co. :D
haha pwnt
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I'm glad to get some responses on this matter, but I never received a letter or was informed about the matter. I WAS an only child and we moved a few times, but we always kept our address up to date. I feel that my not registering was not intentional, and it states in the letter that if I can prove it, they will write it off allowing me to continue with my life... hmm where would I start on proving a matter that they claim 96% of men in the U.S. have registered? and at 15,600,000 some men between ages 18-24 that leaves 600,000 to 1 million men unregistered and being denied the right to programs which aid in higher education. and by a system that hasn't been in effect in years... also it's called "SELECTIVE services" , how is that? it's mandatory!
after some research, I find no difference between "SSS" and the draft itself. ok I'm off to find a box to live in so I can afford to be a student and hopefully be a contributing member a society. oh and I'm to old to join the air force.... wouldn't you know, Is there a reason they only take children? :salute :bhead
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I also had a card. It takes about 2 minutes to file online.
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I can remember I was stationed in Okinawa Ja;an and I got a nasty letter from th selectivee service directected through my actual APO address. It basically stated if I do not register for the draft that I am in violation of federal law and could be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, the kicker they mailmed it to LCPL R. Therrien. ????? Did they miss something in the address????
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Apparently your mom and dad were huge USMC fans, naming their kid Lance Corporal :D
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I filed for my FASFA and was declined due to this matter. I'm fully up to speed now on what it is and what it's for, but since I am now 28 years of age, I'm to late and crap outa luck....??? I'm writing a letter to SSS now to hopefully have this issue resolved. I'm more or less curious if this is a rather unheard of problem. I'm from a small town with a graduating class of 60 students and a small staffed high school. (and hearing difficulty) How could I have missed such a crucial document?! as of now It may take years more to get a 4 year degree. < discouraging and depressing. am I really stuck laying brick next to grungy old broken back bar supporting masons? makes me want to drink too..... looking for a light at the end of this tunnel. :salute
My advice for what it is worth. Start with a 6 month certification in something IT related (IT only because I know my way around the field). While you do that, save as much money as you can so when you are done you can move to a bigger city where jobs are. Once you land the first job, most if not all companies will pay for you to go to college as long as it is somewhat related to something they could use you for.
If that option does not work for you and you really do have very low income, you should be able to go college or at list a 2 year degree for almost free. Look it up, there is money out there for everything. If you want, send me some info and I ll look some things up for you.
I was I was too old at 26 so don't feel too bad lol. There are better options if all you want is to go to school. I'd leave the military for those that join because they want to protect their country.
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i registered for the selective service back in 1978, we already knew back then we had to signup at 18, amazing how many kids today have no clue that they have to signup at 18
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selective service is another shining example of government stupidity...registered when i turned 18...6 months later got a notice to register, did it again...enlisted and served 4 years...got notices to register for 2 years after i got out...they finally stopped after some phone calls.
to the op, read the information on the sss site about men over 26...
http://www.sss.gov/Status.html (http://www.sss.gov/Status.html)
see if you can get a status letter which should allow you a waiver for finaid
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ok I'm actually in school now, after being denied financial aid, I went ahead and paid for the semester myself. I'm actually reseaching "SSS" and doing an english paper on the matter. But may 15 when this semester is over I have work lined up so I can earn enough to pay for the next semester. so far each semester is going to cost me between $4-$6,000... I don't know how school ever got so expensive, but it is do-able. For me in particular it has been a challenge because I worked for 11 years and 3 of which I was self employed. I see school as a step back in attemp to take a giant leep forword. So I was in hopes of getting into school FULLY and getting it done ASAP. After haveing finacial aid pulled from me, it has been a huge confidence breaker. I always push ahead, I WILL get my degree regardless, however long it takes. but as for "SSS" what a royal pain in the rear. once I have enough in my part and defence, I will take them on in attempt to get what I need. (finger crossed)
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ok I'm actually in school now, after being denied financial aid, I went ahead and paid for the semester myself. I'm actually reseaching "SSS" and doing an english paper on the matter. But may 15 when this semester is over I have work lined up so I can earn enough to pay for the next semester. so far each semester is going to cost me between $4-$6,000... I don't know how school ever got so expensive, but it is do-able. For me in particular it has been a challenge because I worked for 11 years and 3 of which I was self employed. I see school as a step back in attemp to take a giant leep forword. So I was in hopes of getting into school FULLY and getting it done ASAP. After haveing finacial aid pulled from me, it has been a huge confidence breaker. I always push ahead, I WILL get my degree regardless, however long it takes. but as for "SSS" what a royal pain in the rear. once I have enough in my part and defence, I will take them on in attempt to get what I need. (finger crossed)
4 to 6K? What school is it?
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Maybe he is an out of state student.
A&M is about 15k a year if your from Texas. My Daughter is in her second year there.
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Maybe he is an out of state student.
A&M is about 15k a year if your from Texas. My Daughter is in her second year there.
Yeah, I know, but I figured someone looking for money for college would not do the out of state thing. I was an out of the country student so I am very familiar with the prices lol.
Best solution is a year community college, get a job, and have them pay for the rest.
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ok I'm actually in school now, after being denied financial aid, I went ahead and paid for the semester myself. I'm actually reseaching "SSS" and doing an english paper on the matter. But may 15 when this semester is over I have work lined up so I can earn enough to pay for the next semester. so far each semester is going to cost me between $4-$6,000... I don't know how school ever got so expensive, but it is do-able. For me in particular it has been a challenge because I worked for 11 years and 3 of which I was self employed. I see school as a step back in attemp to take a giant leep forword. So I was in hopes of getting into school FULLY and getting it done ASAP. After haveing finacial aid pulled from me, it has been a huge confidence breaker. I always push ahead, I WILL get my degree regardless, however long it takes. but as for "SSS" what a royal pain in the rear. once I have enough in my part and defence, I will take them on in attempt to get what I need. (finger crossed)
I wish my school was only $4-6,000 a semester. Mine is only $15,000/semester. The FAFSA didn't really help me much, either (and both of my parents income is pretty low).
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<--Purdue University Calumet is in North west Indiana... my first semester was $3,800 and one class was a catch up or high school level (non-credit) <--been out for 11 years, so I had to catch up a little...still had to pay for it. My major is Aeronautical/astronautical engineering... lots of math :airplane:
I have a goal of working at or something simular to Boeing, Rolls Royce, Nasa, something airframe or propulsion related. or even aerodynamics related. even if it's computer designing for....
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i registered for the selective service back in 1978, we already knew back then we had to signup at 18, amazing how many kids today have no clue that they have to signup at 18
Not really a lot of them know that are supposed to sign up for it. They just don't care about it and their typical response is, "I'm not gonna join the military and I ain't gonna be drafted.
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Registered for SS 3-weeks after 9-11 and two days after my 18th birthday. Was a lotta huffin and puffin about it from a couple friends given the timing of the matter. Wasn't any thought to me, and if I get drafted someday I'll go.
My grandfather was a welder before he turned 18 during WWII, as the youngest sibling all his brothers not disqualified had enlisted or been drafted already. His company had aloted to it's employees (and bought the rest it needed) get-outa-the-draft cards since they were welding tanks during the war, and I think that these waivers needed to be renewed every 3-6 months. His company had bought a waiver for him twice, once before he turned 18 and a second time after that. He had made numerous requests to not have a waiver, he wanted to enlist but at the times couldn't because his company had already essentialy paid off the government to not put him in the services (and he couldn't just quit and have no income to help the household while waiting to be eligible to join up). After the second time he had to go around his foreman to the boss of the factory, who couldn't understand why my grandfather didn't want to get a waiver and to get drafted. He told him he wanted to because all his brothers and friends were already serving, it was his duty. The boss agreed. Two weeks after his second waiver expired, the SS sent him the congradulatory letter he had been waiting and trying so hard for.
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i registered for the selective service back in 1978, we already knew back then we had to signup at 18, amazing how many kids today have no clue that they have to signup at 18
[/quote ]Agreed. Same Here (1978) :aok
Besides knowing we could buy booze, we knew we had to register at 18
<S> Oz
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Registered for SS 3-weeks after 9-11 and two days after my 18th birthday. Was a lotta huffin and puffin about it from a couple friends given the timing of the matter. Wasn't any thought to me, and if I get drafted someday I'll go.
My grandfather was a welder before he turned 18 during WWII, as the youngest sibling all his brothers not disqualified had enlisted or been drafted already. His company had aloted to it's employees (and bought the rest it needed) get-outa-the-draft cards since they were welding tanks during the war, and I think that these waivers needed to be renewed every 3-6 months. His company had bought a waiver for him twice, once before he turned 18 and a second time after that. He had made numerous requests to not have a waiver, he wanted to enlist but at the times couldn't because his company had already essentialy paid off the government to not put him in the services (and he couldn't just quit and have no income to help the household while waiting to be eligible to join up). After the second time he had to go around his foreman to the boss of the factory, who couldn't understand why my grandfather didn't want to get a waiver and to get drafted. He told him he wanted to because all his brothers and friends were already serving, it was his duty. The boss agreed. Two weeks after his second waiver expired, the SS sent him the congradulatory letter he had been waiting and trying so hard for.
Let me guess, he ate a Mauser round on his second day in the field.
-Penguin
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Let me guess, he ate a Mauser round on his second day in the field.
-Penguin
No. Just....no. Do you even think before you post, or is it all impulse?
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Let me guess, he ate a Mauser round on his second day in the field.
-Penguin
not even slightly right...disgusting actually.
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Let me guess, he ate a Mauser round on his second day in the field.
-Penguin
Your reply is so utterly lacking in class but then, you're just a child and one must forgive the actions of stupid children.
ack-ack
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Now that is funny. The funnier thing is that your DD 214 is like a get out of draft free card. :devil
Not true at all. Everyone who is honorably discharged from the military is on inactive reserve for ten years.
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Your reply is so utterly lacking in class but then, you're just a child and one must forgive the actions of stupid children.
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He's actively trying to troll now. Just because someone's young doesn't mean they should be given a pass.
After all, you can't fix stupid :D
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Not true at all. Everyone who is honorably discharged from the military is on inactive reserve for ten years.
Being in the IRR precludes you from being drafted. You get activated. :devil
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He's actively trying to troll now. Just because someone's young doesn't mean they should be given a pass.
After all, you can't fix stupid :D
I'm beginning to think that about myself. What I was trying to say was:
What he did was impulsive and clueless, he had a get-out-of-draft free card and he threw it away. He could have eaten a Mauser round on his second day, and I was supposing that he did.
-penguin
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I'm beginning to think that about myself. What I was trying to say was:
What he did was impulsive and clueless, he had a get-out-of-draft free card and he threw it away. He could have eaten a Mauser round on his second day, and I was supposing that he did.
-penguin
Ohhh, something tells me you will remember this post for a long time :rofl
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Ohhh, something tells me you will remember this post for a long time :rofl
Banhammer?
-Penguin
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Banhammer?
-Penguin
Nah, that would be the easy way out of this one lol
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Nah, that would be the easy way out of this one lol
PNG'd?
-Penguin
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if that was the case, i would send HTC a Case of whatever booze he wanted
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if that was the case, i would send HTC a Case of whatever booze he wanted
As far as I can tell, I haven't broken any rules.
-Penguin
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make it two cases
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I can think of a couple that you have but if I named them I would break #5.
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As far as I can tell, I haven't broken any rules.
-Penguin
No broken rules, but you called someone willing to give his life for his country clueless. To make it worse, this is about WWII were the country was really under attack. So, no, you did not break any BBS rules but if everyone thought like you, we may be speaking German or Japanese now.
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Turned 18 on Monday, July 24, 1989 and was registering that morning at 9am when the post office opened in town. Of course some people just don't understand that its something that you have just have to do. If you value your freedom sometimes just being ready to do something is just as important as doing it when called.
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Let me guess, he ate a Mauser round on his second day in the field.
-Penguin
No, that was one of his older brothers on the first day of the Normandy Landings whom he had little contact with since great Gma and great Gpa seperated and him, as one of the older of the two eldest boys, went with her to help support her, you f!@#$ng socialy rejected spaz. Not that your head has any interest in becoming more intelligent than your mouth, but he's actualy been written about in a book as he played in the '41 Army-Navy football game for the Army, right before Pearl Harbor happened. He lived and recovered, eventualy retired from the army as a Colonel.
My grandfather though almost went into the Marines where the batch of draftees he was drafted with went imediatley to Iwo after boot camp and didn't fair too well. Luckily the Navy CB at the Navy/Marines desk noticed his occupation as a welder and slipped his aplication as the first one for the day into the Navy pile. Through training some of his instructors had known about or were friends with one or more of his older brothers, so he was just finishing submarine training and getting steered to an eastern front outfit to fight the germans like most his brothers when, as the battle for Iwo came to a close and the remnants of the German Navy scarcely to be found afloat, he got assigned as a welder with limited german literacy and connections because of his brothers to dissasemble a captured German U-boat. That bought him enough time on the east coast to last him through VE day the shift of manpower to the pacific in preperation for the invasion of Japan. Just as he had been reasigned to a brand new sub that was set to sail within a couple days to Panama and into the Pacific, the war ended. His sub's deployment was cancelled and he loafed around on the east coast for a few months. Finally he was picked to be part of two sub crews that were assigned the two oldest and least sea-worthy pre-WWII diesel subs in the yard. The crews spent over two months getting these subs preped for the trip from the east coast to panama and onward to pearl, the mission was top secret, but a bit of a joke to them because of the state of the equipment they had been assigned for this "top secret" mission.
The deployment date came and they set sail for Panama. Being old stinky diesel subs and the war just ending, both elected to sail in formation to pearl together while surfaced as much as weather would possibley permit. As they came around the Florida panhandle on the way to panama they got hit by I think two hurricanes. The first they set cource straght through, planning to simply submerge a few meters and sail unscathed through. This in effect broke communication and formation between the subs as they submerged below the surface.
On my grandfathers sub, their old sub's conning tower had portholes so an observer could see through. During the two (relatively shallow) test dives back at port there was no problem with them. An hour or two after initialy submerging through the storm it got signifigantly more violent top-side, and the sub was forced to dive deeper than it had before during the test dives. Two of these portholes seals failed imediatley upon diving to the further depth. Their sub, submerged and under notable pressure, started to take on water at an alarming and uncontrolable rate for the sub's bilges, and with battery power failing and a raging huricane above they had no choice but to surface. This storm was violent, it picked up their sub and kicked it around like a tin can, flipping it, spinning it, twisting it over end for end. My grandfather swears on his life that this first storm picked up their sub into the air and spun it around a few times at least twice. It knocked out all 4 diesel engines, they were without power now and at the complete mercy of the sea for hours on end. The damage to the porthole seals earlier was still leaking in water as the tower would go under water more than it would be right-side up and dry in the storm. This would turn out to be a godsend though as the sea water flowing into the sub would regularly rince the men of the battery acid now swilling around inside with them all.
The first storm passed after a long while. Damage was extensive and many men were injured. The sub, arleady operating with skeleton crews and few spare parts given the simplicity of the mission, was lucky to be afloat. For the next two days my grandfather worked as the only trained welder on the sub to repair as much as he could, starting with the ballasts so they could keep their leaking conning tower up and out of the sea, giving the men manualy pumping the bilges a break. The one uninjured mechanist and navigator barely got one of the four diesel engines to fire up. The radios were out, they got soaked, their only hope was to dry them out and hope one would work later.
A second hurricane came, it was milder than the first, it only rolled the sub a couple times. It's major drawback was knocking out their power again and sole working diesel engine, and also setting back progress to a second engine which would of allowed them to begin under way again on their own power. This second storm injured the mechanist, and disabled him. My grandfather and another man worked together under the mechanists direction and by the end of the day had two engines up and running.
They were now, very slowly, sailing onward to panama. Another day or two passed where they were essentialy trying their luck with the radios. Luckily, suspecting they may be broadcasting operationaly, they left those in the best shape on. This allowed the second submarine they were traveling with to locate them. They took on their wounded and towed the limping sub to panama where they arrived a week late but everyone accounted for.
While transiting panama, still under tow from the other sub, they recieved all the replacement parts they needed and were back in shape, with spares, within a few days as they entered the pacific and had their crews beefed up a little as well. My grandfather, electing to stay with the old stinking sub and see the trip through, was rewarded with two aditional welders to do all his duties for him and the skipper allowed him and anyone else from the first leg of the trip all the deck time he wanted to fish or sunbathe on their last leg of the trip to hawaii, which went without incident or any need to submerge.
It was during these days of blissful sailing in the pacific and his time in hawaii that my grandfather decided he liked the big blue ocean a lot more than the Atlantic and after his service to settle with my grandmother and move out west to live by it.
On their remaining way to Pearl the skipper divulged to my grandfather that the subs "top secret" mission was to partake in something the highest brass was all gitty about and was calling Operation Crossroads which was to be some nuclear tests. That once they got to pearl they were to simply twittle around in port preparing the subs with test equipment before the still undetermined date they were to get towed to the secret location.
Luckily and thankfuly for my grandfather his time ran up just a month or two before the Crossroads tests took place after being repeatedly delayed. Poor soul was stuck in post-war Hawaii with all that time to kill.
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It's OK everyone, thank you for the support. I'd rather him learn something and let him live a few more years being disapointed with the life he has created for himself than even threaten to harm or deprive him of it. :devil
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Great story Bab... good reading
:salute
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It's OK everyone, thank you for the support. I'd rather him learn something and let him live a few more years being disapointed with the life he has created for himself than even threaten to harm or deprive him of it. :devil
:rofl easy, he is only 14. Give him another 10 years before he figures things out
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:rofl easy, he is only 14. Give him another 10 years before he figures things out
True, true, but I'm getting a kick knowing his smart 14-yo mouth in the year 2011 made ol' grand uncle Henry roll around a few times in his grave today.
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When they re-required 18 YO's (+) to register with SSS I was a Junior in High school and every kid knew about it. It started at the beginning of the year 1978 (IIRC) and a few of us with January & February birthdays piled into the car and went down to the post office to register.
They would never have taken me. Far too many sports injuries and damage.
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I will always remember the day in 1983 my dad, now gone, a WWII Navy Pacific Vet driving me down to the post office to register. I could have driven myself easily by that time but he wanted to take me down there and stand with me when I dropped off my card. For him it held a lot of meaning and implications that I really did not see at the time.
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As far as I can tell, I haven't broken any rules.
-Penguin
It has nothing to do with breaking rules, if you had any amount of intelligence you'd figure that out. It's about you being a moron, pure and simple. You might as well start to stretch out those fingers because with your idiotic comments, you're going to be deservedly flamed and I'm sure you'll work your little fingers to the bone reporting everyone for rightly calling you an idiot.
ack-ack