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Title: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on April 07, 2011, 04:25:23 PM
http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb414/noelle1231/?action=view&current=monti056.mp4 (http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb414/noelle1231/?action=view&current=monti056.mp4)


Sorry for quality of film any ideas on how to get fraps and windows movie maker to show opponents alt would greatly be appreciated
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: mbailey on April 07, 2011, 04:59:45 PM
Tosh in the backround  :rock  :D
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on April 07, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
Tosh in the backround  :rock  :D

yes I love him
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: shiv on April 07, 2011, 05:28:08 PM
You could just post the .ahf file. Upload to MediaFire or whatever.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on April 07, 2011, 07:29:46 PM
tried it with photobucket took almost hour for upload then it wasnt any good for some reason guess ill open mediafire account
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: MickDono on April 07, 2011, 07:31:55 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: TEXAS20 on April 17, 2011, 07:31:28 AM
 "Kung fu movies are like porn. The dialogue is unnecessary. Just get to the money shot already!"  :rofl  :rofl    :rock Tosh
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on April 25, 2011, 06:37:51 AM
Yes, please post the ahf file.....too much camera movement in your video to accurately tell what's going on.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on April 25, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
it shows quite clearly that Monti climbed to 15k for a 5K merge.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on April 25, 2011, 10:30:11 AM
I'll be the judge of that....post the ahf file.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on April 25, 2011, 10:55:20 AM
didnt ask for u to be the judge of  anything and since u seem not to have any manners I'm gonna say NO
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on April 25, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
You posted something stating it was a fact.

I only want to review the actual ahf file to make a decision for myself.

This shouldn't be a problem unless you have something to hide.

Don't hide behind some "manners" canard if you are so confident in your accusations.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on April 25, 2011, 11:23:06 AM
I have a lot of things to hide but that's really neither here nor there. I also think you are using the word canard incorrectly.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on April 25, 2011, 11:40:00 AM
All I asked was to see the ahf file for myself.

Why is that too much to ask for?

Some would look at your video and think there was not enough there to support your claims.
Of course you think there is because you produced the video and posted it.
I'd like to see the raw ahf file (pretty please) to help me decide.

Your rants this weekend on 200 accusing Monti of cheating intrigued me.
I was disappointed to see the AH BBS down over the weekend because I could not look at the smoking gun video you claimed supported your accusations.

Today I watched it and was not convinced.

So until I see the raw film I'll just write you off as another pathetic whiner that got his butt handed to him.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: grizz441 on April 25, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
I believe dmgod, but film is necessary.  :aok
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: jollyFE on April 29, 2011, 07:39:20 PM
you would believe him grizz
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Butcher on May 06, 2011, 08:10:22 AM
Yeah I believe somethings wrong here, for one - He's over 20k away when he climbs to 15k, so that proves absolutely nothing. At a range of 10.7k which is still outside your range to see his icon, he's only at 8.2k - camera moves away just in time to see him not at 5k with you at 6k range.

Either way its timid to climb before a cold merge, same for those who empty gun packages to lose weight etc. However you can save alot of time with the raw film rather then some crappy film of you fading out every 15 seconds heh.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on May 06, 2011, 08:57:50 AM
Yeah I believe somethings wrong here, for one - He's over 20k away when he climbs to 15k, so that proves absolutely nothing. At a range of 10.7k which is still outside your range to see his icon, he's only at 8.2k - camera moves away just in time to see him not at 5k with you at 6k range.

Either way its timid to climb before a cold merge, same for those who empty gun packages to lose weight etc. However you can save alot of time with the raw film rather then some crappy film of you fading out every 15 seconds heh.


Exactly.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: grizz441 on May 06, 2011, 11:21:47 AM
you would believe him grizz

I changed my mind.  I don't believe him anymore since he never posted the film.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on June 01, 2011, 10:11:45 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?hu8efdjmamtatgr (http://www.mediafire.com/?hu8efdjmamtatgr)

There is file un altered video. Sorry it took so long. Had to open media fire account after trying unsuccessfully for 2 weeks or so to do it with photo-bucket.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on June 01, 2011, 11:53:28 PM
Great!
Thanks for posting.


Does not match your initial video in the least (or your claims)!


Thanks for proving you're a liar.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on June 02, 2011, 09:06:27 AM
Uh... did you actually watch it? It is exactly the same.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on June 02, 2011, 12:28:25 PM
uh...yes I did watch it doesn't even come close to your handheld video of your screen while the "film" played.
You claim Monti was at 20K and dove to 5K....I did not see that in the film.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on June 02, 2011, 01:37:29 PM
Lol seriously?  he called for a 5k merge and he was well above 5k maybe but not 20k but above 14
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on June 02, 2011, 02:40:58 PM
I'll check when I get a chance but I don't remember seeing Monti over 14K in the film you posted. 
I recall seeing him being around 6K when he was within range in the film.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on June 02, 2011, 03:38:28 PM
So here is what I did. I played film until monti showed up. I clicked on his name and it put me in his plane then i hit rewind. I rewound it until it stop and when it stopped MONTI was at 16k Yes not 20k but def not 5k either like was agreed by both of us. Call me a liar or whatever else U like. Film tells all MOnti came in way higher then 5k and he lied about and here is proof he lied end of storey.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on June 02, 2011, 04:14:22 PM
Weird....I did not know you could do that.
Every time I've jumped into another players plane in film it did nothing when that person was no longer was in range.

So what you're saying is that a film records EVERYTHING even though only certain things are in range?
Is there a limit to this feature? 
I mean, if someone flies 2 sectors to where I am and I have been recording my whole flight, I should be able to watch the film, jump in the guys plane who flew 2 sectors to where I was, rewind the film and go back to when the guy took off (provided I was recording when he took off 2 sectors away)?
Wow, did not know filming worked that way.
I will give this a try when I get home. 
It's possible that the very nature of jumping in a plane in film and rewinding it as you say you did could lead to some erroneous data being shown.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: GNucks on June 02, 2011, 04:56:59 PM
At 00:55, as soon as Monti is in filming range (just about 7K) his altitude is 6100, DMGOD's being 4900. From that moment he dove down to DMGOD and duel was over rather quickly.

I'm not seeing the same thing between the film and the Photobucket recording, but Monti still broke the agreed upon merge alt ceiling.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on June 02, 2011, 05:36:01 PM
did they merge at 5k?
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on June 02, 2011, 05:37:01 PM
did they merge at 5k?
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Vudak on June 02, 2011, 05:40:25 PM
At 00:55, as soon as Monti is in filming range (just about 7K) his altitude is 6100, DMGOD's being 4900. From that moment he dove down to DMGOD and duel was over rather quickly.

I'm not seeing the same thing between the film and the Photobucket recording, but Monti still broke the agreed upon merge alt ceiling.


I'd think a 1200 foot alt advantage would be a lot more useful in a duel than a 15k one, anyway...
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on June 02, 2011, 05:56:10 PM
At 00:55, as soon as Monti is in filming range (just about 7K) his altitude is 6100, DMGOD's being 4900. From that moment he dove down to DMGOD and duel was over rather quickly.

I'm not seeing the same thing between the film and the Photobucket recording, but Monti still broke the agreed upon merge alt ceiling.


what alt were they at when they merged?
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on June 02, 2011, 05:59:01 PM
5k
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: Donzo on June 02, 2011, 06:00:42 PM
And what were the rules?
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: DMGOD on June 02, 2011, 06:02:53 PM
5k cold merge.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: ink on June 02, 2011, 06:09:11 PM
And what were the rules?

so its ok to grab a bunch of alt before merge? to come in with more E then the guy you are dueling?

 so you are saying its ok to cheat, cuz that's what he did from the sounds of it.

I definitely don't doubt he went up to 15 K.


well now Im gonna have to watch the film and see his lameness first hand.


edited after watching film

he came in at 6,7K

now they are at the exact same speed when he comes into the film so I doubt he went up any higher then he was.....

still lame.

haha he is doing 419 when they reach the same ALT, DMGOD is doing 363, and then he HO's him  :rofl

sad, but I am not surprised


its a given if you merge at 5K you don't go higher then that until icon vis
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: GNucks on June 02, 2011, 07:18:28 PM
lol:

"What're the rules?"

"Merge at 5K."

"Did he dive down to 5K in time?"

"Yeah, but-"

"Then he didn't break the rules! HURR DURR"  :rolleyes:

That's dishonest, not in the spirit of the duel, and cheating. The whole point of having an agreed upon merge alt is to start the fight with equivalent E. One shouldn't have to explain the entire flight plan up to closing within weapons range to get an equal terms fight.
Title: Re: Monti 5k cold merge
Post by: ToeTag on June 02, 2011, 07:24:38 PM
sounds like vans crew is back in the DA