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Title: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Eric122 on April 08, 2011, 04:37:35 PM
Made by Curtiss, it was the replacement for the SBD Dauntless. it had a top speed of 294 mph and it could carry a 2,000 lbbomb or a MK 13-2 torpedo in its internal bomb bay.  It could carry up to 500 lbs of bombs, or depth charges on each of its 2 wing hard points.
This website for the only flying example of a SB2C in the world, is a good source of information about the plane:

http://www.sb2chelldiver.com/journal.html (http://www.sb2chelldiver.com/journal.html)

Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: K-KEN on April 08, 2011, 04:59:11 PM
Great find!   :rock

From the web page:

"The first production SB2C-1 flew on 30 June 1942, and SB2Cs first flew into combat in the campaign for Rabaul in November 1943. By the next year the SB2C had replaced the SBD Dauntless as the Navy's first line dive bomber."

 :airplane:
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 08, 2011, 05:00:43 PM
It's the dive bomber that could not dive.

 :banana:


wrongway
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: IrishOne on April 08, 2011, 05:05:28 PM
20mm's?
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Eric122 on April 08, 2011, 05:10:50 PM
yep :aok
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Saxman on April 08, 2011, 05:42:59 PM

By the next year the SB2C had replaced the SBD Dauntless as the Navy's first line dive bomber."


And every Navy dive bomber pilot would have gladly traded it in to get their SBDs back.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see her and the TBD added for completeness, but I think people are expecting WAY too much out of the Helldiver.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Volron on April 08, 2011, 06:16:06 PM
And every Navy dive bomber pilot would have gladly traded it in to get their SBDs back.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see her and the TBD added for completeness, but I think people are expecting WAY too much out of the Helldiver.

I'm expecting 10% more flame-y... :D  +1 either way. :aok
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: IrishOne on April 08, 2011, 07:13:28 PM
And every Navy dive bomber pilot would have gladly traded it in to get their SBDs back.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see her and the TBD added for completeness, but I think people are expecting WAY too much out of the Helldiver.


i expect to see it eventually simply because it belongs  :aok     maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday.    and if it's a POS?   bfd.   not the point.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Krusty on April 08, 2011, 08:35:31 PM
SB2C... Son of B....., 2nd Class.

That's what they called it. Probably more lethal to naval air crews than the enemy was. Underpowered, unreliable, unsurvivable... If I recall that was just the selection of the most common critiques. It was also terrible to maintain and other bad things.

At least, that's the reputation it has.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Saxman on April 08, 2011, 10:21:26 PM
The later models fixed most of the problems. Unfortunately, those later models (-4 and -5) missed the War and by then the purpose-built dive bomber was obsolete, anyway.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: LLogann on April 08, 2011, 10:42:53 PM
A small step up from the SBC2/4  And barely better than the SBD.   :uhoh
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Yeager on April 09, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
The helldiver would be a good plane to have in AH.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 09, 2011, 07:03:01 PM
There are many more important aircraft on the "to do" list than that damned thing.   ;)

Good try though.  :D
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Yeager on April 09, 2011, 08:35:08 PM
There are many more important aircraft on the "to do" list than that damned thing.   ;)

Good try though.  :D
Not that many.  He111 and P61 of course  :cool:
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: K-KEN on April 10, 2011, 06:58:29 AM
A-26
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Imowface on April 10, 2011, 01:44:27 PM
did it not sink more tonnage in the war then any other american plane?
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 10, 2011, 01:56:15 PM
did it not sink more tonnage in the war then any other american plane?

Without reaserching, I'd say no.

Not much tonnage left by the time it was introduced. All but one cv that attacked Pearl Harbor was sunk by SBD's, I believe.


wrongway
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Karnak on April 10, 2011, 02:02:50 PM
D4Y "Judy"

Fastest dive bomber from WWII.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 10, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
The later models fixed most of the problems. Unfortunately, those later models (-4 and -5) missed the War and by then the purpose-built dive bomber was obsolete, anyway.

The SB2C-3 was the production model that fixed the issues that had plagued the SB2C-1 and SB2C-2, like the addition of the 1,900HP R-2600-20 Double Cyclone and Curtis 4-bladed propeller.

ack-ack
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Saxman on April 10, 2011, 06:02:51 PM
did it not sink more tonnage in the war then any other american plane?

That mark goes to the SBD.