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Title: CCC not opening
Post by: 1Boner on April 09, 2011, 11:41:49 AM
After a recent Microsoft update, all of the "fine tuning" controls in my ccc simply disapeared.

There would be only one screen (display detection etc.) that would appear.

No access to anything else at all.

Sooooooo, I uninstalled it and redownloaded and installed a new one from the ati site.

Now although it show up in my programs list,when I click on it all I get is a momentary flickering cursor.

It won't open at all. Not sure if I downloaded the right one or not,because the list of CCCs and drivers couldn't possibly be more confusing to me.

I went for the one that said 5870 windows7 64 bit.

From what little searching I've done online (at work right now) this seems to be a fairly common problem and I haven't seen any real solutions yet.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 09, 2011, 12:05:29 PM
After a recent Microsoft update, all of the "fine tuning" controls in my ccc simply disapeared.

There would be only one screen (display detection etc.) that would appear.

No access to anything else at all.

Sooooooo, I uninstalled it and redownloaded and installed a new one from the ati site.

Now although it show up in my programs list,when I click on it all I get is a momentary flickering cursor.

It won't open at all. Not sure if I downloaded the right one or not,because the list of CCCs and drivers couldn't possibly be more confusing to me.

I went for the one that said 5870 windows7 64 bit.

From what little searching I've done online (at work right now) this seems to be a fairly common problem and I haven't seen any real solutions yet.

Never install the drivers suggested by Microsoft update, especially if you have manually installed already something. Most of the time it will pork your system because the update will contain a much older driver version.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: FLS on April 09, 2011, 01:36:18 PM
Run the ATi uninstaller and remove everything. Download and install the current driver and CCC package.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: 1Boner on April 09, 2011, 01:43:27 PM
Uninstall the everything? including the driver??

Geeez louise! will my monitor still work if the 5870 doesn't have a driver??
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: gyrene81 on April 09, 2011, 02:00:50 PM
yes...everything will still work...just make sure you download the driver package without installing it until after you get rid of the existing driver package already installed and reboot.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 12, 2011, 01:07:15 PM
You're better off not using CCC, uninstall it and use ATI Tray Tools instead.

ack-ack
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Skuzzy on April 12, 2011, 01:19:54 PM
I would rather use nothing than the Catalyst Control Center.

And like others have said, NEVER allow the Microsoft updater to update a video card driver, unless you like eating a lot of frustration coated with a massive dose of anger.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Krusty on April 12, 2011, 01:27:35 PM
Question on CCC: Can I still get access to eyefinity if I don't install the CCC? there used to be some 3rd part CCC alternative, but that was a while back, before eyefinity and monitor-spanning features.

Currently I have CCC installed. I don't really like it. Not sure if I go to Omega drivers or whatever, if they'll let me do the monitor setup, though.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Warmongo on April 12, 2011, 04:58:24 PM
Just curious. What about nHancer? And can you run it by itself? Is it better to just install the drivers to play AH?
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Warmongo on April 14, 2011, 06:26:37 AM
Just curious. What about nHancer? And can you run it by itself? Is it better to just install the drivers to play AH?

Duh..I just noticed nHancer is for the nVidia cards almost 48 hrs after my post. But the question still applies. Can I install drivers only then use a third party app with less overhead and similar or better control over the graphics settings. I know that if you install drivers only, it will use default settings unless specified otherwise. The reason I ask is because I cannot longer run X-Plane 9.67 after I installed my new GTX 580. AH works just fine. I don't mean to hijack the thread... :o
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Tigger29 on April 14, 2011, 11:09:31 AM
Duh..I just noticed nHancer is for the nVidia cards almost 48 hrs after my post. But the question still applies. Can I install drivers only then use a third party app with less overhead and similar or better control over the graphics settings. I know that if you install drivers only, it will use default settings unless specified otherwise. The reason I ask is because I cannot longer run X-Plane 9.67 after I installed my new GTX 580. AH works just fine. I don't mean to hijack the thread... :o


Well being that this thread is about an ATI utility and you're asking an Nvidia question then maybe you will be better off starting a separate thread.  I'm not sure about Nvidia, but that definitely can be done with ATI.  I use ATI Tray Tools myself instead of CCC.

The hard part may be finding a third party application that can support that new of a card.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: 1Boner on April 14, 2011, 01:18:48 PM
Down loaded the tray tools last night, has most of the stuff I lost on it.(I think)

However it is still not holding my "jagged edge removal" setting. When I re- start the computer, I have to redo the settings.

It did this with the ccc also.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Krupinski on April 14, 2011, 02:05:31 PM
You don't have to uninstall anything, I had the same problem and all I had to do was re-download the CCC and it worked fine.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: 1Boner on April 14, 2011, 06:20:39 PM
Just got home from work and started the computer, got a message saying "ati tray tools cannot connect to low level drivers".

Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!

The icon that WAS in my hidden icons tray is also gone.

The tray tools still show under my programs list, so I created a desktop icon and opened it. "ati tray tools cannot connect to low level drivers".

Yaaaaaaaay.

There is an option to "install" low level drivers in the tray tool, but I"m not sure what low level drivers are.

Any ideas??  You'd figure that guys who create such wonderful video cards would be able to produce a "simple" configuration tool, but apparently you'd be figuring wrong.

Any help would be appreciated!!   Thanks for all the help guys!     Bobby G.
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 14, 2011, 06:33:13 PM
Using the "low level" drivers allow you to do stuff like overlclock on the driver level instead of the BIOS.

ack-ack
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: 1Boner on April 14, 2011, 07:41:05 PM
Thanks Ack Ack.

I really don't wanna overclock anything.

I just want to adjust the AA? to get rid of jagged edges.

But still this thing (tray tools ) seems to be acting very much like the CCC did.

I just installed it last night, and initially it seemed to work fine.

But when I would leave a game that had just had its "jagged" edges smooth and re-enter the game, the jagged edges had returned.

Now the tray seems to have stopped working altogether, ie: it won't open.

What a collosal pia!! :bhead
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 14, 2011, 08:58:44 PM
Thanks Ack Ack.

I really don't wanna overclock anything.

I just want to adjust the AA? to get rid of jagged edges.

But still this thing (tray tools ) seems to be acting very much like the CCC did.

I just installed it last night, and initially it seemed to work fine.

But when I would leave a game that had just had its "jagged" edges smooth and re-enter the game, the jagged edges had returned.

Now the tray seems to have stopped working altogether, ie: it won't open.

What a collosal pia!! :bhead

In ATI Tray Tools, if you right click on the icon in your SysTray select 3D and set Anti-Aliasing to application settings.  Select this if you don't want your drivers to override the AA settings you've set in AH.  Since AH allows you to adjust AA in game, there is no need to set the drivers in ATI tools to anything other than application settings. 

You can also create a profile (handy if you play multiple games with different video settings).  You can create the profile by again, right clicking on the ATI Tools icon in your SysTray and select 3D and then go to "save" (it might say "profiles", not at my home computer to verify, working based on recollections of a bong resinated brain) and then name your profile and save it.  I'm sure that you can also set the profile to load at start up.

A good tip is to create a profile with all default settings and save it as "default", this way you always have a profile that you can load with the default video settings.

In the general settings, there is an option that says something like "apply hardware settings at startup".  Make sure that this is checked, this way in ATI Tools starts at Windows boot up, it will apply the hardware settings automatically.  This option is for when you do hardware specific settings like overclocking your card.

ack-ack
Title: Re: CCC not opening
Post by: Wayout on April 15, 2011, 09:16:31 AM
You're better off not using CCC, uninstall it and use ATI Tray Tools instead.
ack-ack

Been using ATI Tray Tools for years.  Excellent program.