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Title: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: Charge on April 11, 2011, 05:09:48 AM
Since we are still getting some loving on GV side I'd like to suggest this addition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd_Kfz_234

And this with 50mm gun.

-C+
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: AAJagerX on April 11, 2011, 04:04:58 PM
+1

Very cool.
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: moot on April 11, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
There's a 75mm for the 234.. Doesn't that 50mm have about the same penetration as the M8, on a slower vehicle? 
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: 1Nicolas on April 11, 2011, 04:52:06 PM
50mm is weak!!!!A sherman can beat this thing!!!But still,good Idea. :D
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: E25280 on April 11, 2011, 06:34:41 PM
There's a 75mm for the 234.. Doesn't that 50mm have about the same penetration as the M8, on a slower vehicle? 
But the 75mm version had no turret.
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: gyrene81 on April 11, 2011, 06:43:44 PM
But the 75mm version had no turret.
in the at role, as small as that thing is...turret is just a waste of steel...as for speed, 53mph vs 56mph isn't bad.
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: Volron on April 11, 2011, 07:56:48 PM
There's a 75mm for the 234.. Doesn't that 50mm have about the same penetration as the M8, on a slower vehicle? 

I'd take the Puma over the M8. :aok
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: moot on April 11, 2011, 08:08:23 PM
Not only a straight comparison POV but on a "redundant" POV. Similar speed to M8, similar gun, similar armor. Not that I wouldn't like to have it either way.
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: alpini13 on April 12, 2011, 01:08:14 AM
 :aok  +100
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 12, 2011, 01:17:32 AM
Not only a straight comparison POV but on a "redundant" POV. Similar speed to M8, similar gun, similar armor. Not that I wouldn't like to have it either way.

It's a good thing they're so 'redundant'. It means Axis would have a fairly balanced
GV to use in scenarios etc. instead of substituting an m8 for, say, an armored car.
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: 321BAR on April 12, 2011, 01:18:37 AM
I believe the 234 had a 37mm variant 50mm variant and the 75 solid correct?
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: Avanti on April 12, 2011, 06:15:21 AM
I believe the 234 had a 37mm variant 50mm variant and the 75 solid correct?

thinking about jumping ship from the M18 to the 234 bar?
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 12, 2011, 08:17:12 AM
the Puma or the StG III?  Which take priority?
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: waystin2 on April 12, 2011, 09:11:52 AM
+1
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: Volron on April 12, 2011, 10:02:41 AM
the Puma or the StG III?  Which take priority?

Puma. :D
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: 321BAR on April 12, 2011, 11:09:50 PM
thinking about jumping ship from the M18 to the 234 bar?
:rofl dont make me laugh :noid
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: moot on April 12, 2011, 11:18:38 PM
It's a good thing they're so 'redundant'. It means Axis would have a fairly balanced
GV to use in scenarios etc. instead of substituting an m8 for, say, an armored car.
I'd pick it over the M8 everytime, but I reckon a fairly big chunk of the player base would find it redundant at this point.  When there's so many other types that would add functional variety instead of .. "nation" variety.   A StugIII with the 105mm gun, or a Sturmtiger, or a Jagdpanther, or an M-18, would all add more to the ground fight's strat/tactical variety than a Puma would.
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: Charge on April 13, 2011, 02:26:11 AM
My take is that fast GVs add more tactical variety than slow big gunned tanks which tend to make the fight slow in pace. A relatively fast GV with ability to be dangerous to any tank from rear quarters would make it dangerous to stay camping in one spot. Of course a big caliber always has certain appeal but would it be "good for the game"?

And the point here is not to add something German in other sense than just that 234 already has similar GV in allied inventory and typically the scenarios are about Germany against allied nations, so it has a place there, and if the rival is Japan they are usually naval engagements so there is no need for axis armoured car. In MA environment it serves as an upgrade from M8.



-C+
Title: Re: SdKfz234/2 "Puma"
Post by: 1Nicolas on April 15, 2011, 06:37:05 AM
SdKfz234/3 with a 75mm cannon :O  :aok