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Title: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 12:20:10 AM
A couple of squaddies and myself have tried landing PT boats in many situations...  The most extreme was when one of us drove one (afk for quite a while) 3 sectors out into the middle of nowhere into friendly water...  He got a ditch.  We've tried beaching our boats at a friendly base (no cons in sector), stopping and towering out by a CV that wasn't under attack, etc...  None of us has figured out how to get a "successful landing" message with the PT.  

It's not a big deal, but it'd be good to know if it IS possible.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Raphael on April 12, 2011, 12:23:53 AM
wow that is one important thing.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 12:26:11 AM
wow that is one important thing.

It was a perfectly legitimate question that obviously you don't have an answer for...  That being the case, you should probably refrain from posting comments that make you look like a troll.

EDIT for manners.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: guncrasher on April 12, 2011, 12:58:03 AM
I believe the correct answer is you have to beach yourself.  dont remember if just anywhere or at the port.

semp
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:00:23 AM
I believe the correct answer is you have to beach yourself.  dont remember if just anywhere or at the port.

semp

That's one of the things we tried.  Tried at a port and airfield.  Still got a ditch.  I've always wondered about this PT thing, and we've been goofing off trying to figure it out.  

Have you EVER seen anyone land PT boat kills?  In all my years here, I haven't.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Rolex on April 12, 2011, 01:03:27 AM
The only way I remember getting a successful landing, other than being stopped within the boundary of a fleet, was by being stopped next to the pier of a port.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:04:05 AM
The only way I remember getting a successful landing, other than stopping within the boundary of a fleet, was by being stopped next to the pier of a port.

Tried both of those.  It still gave a ditch.


EDIT:  Someone said at one point that you had to be physically touching the CV with your boat...  Tried that too, it was pretty funny.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Rolex on April 12, 2011, 01:05:34 AM
Just to make sure, you were stopped?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:06:05 AM
Just to make sure, you were stopped?
Yep

EDIT:  We've tried stopped, beached, parked almost on top of the sub at port...  Etc.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Rolex on April 12, 2011, 01:06:58 AM
I'll go try it now. Which map?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:08:47 AM
I'll go try it now. Which map?

We've been fooling with this for a while, on alot of maps.  Never got it to work.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Rolex on April 12, 2011, 01:12:02 AM
I just went to midwar and got a successful landing next to CV and at the pier of port. I don't know what to say.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: lyric1 on April 12, 2011, 01:12:38 AM
It was a perfectly legitimate question that obviously you don't have an answer for...  That being the case, you should probably refrain from posting comments that make you look like a troll.

EDIT for manners.
I think he was agreeing with you. I know he is a kid from Brazil so his English reply may be misconstrued. :aok
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:16:54 AM
I think he was agreeing with you. I know he is a kid from Brazil so his English reply may be misconstrued. :aok

Possibly.  If that's the case then I apologize.

Rolex, I just did the same in Mid and got a landing.  This is truly strange.

EDIT:  I've never seen someone land a Pt in LW.

All in all, it should be like any other GV...  6K from any enemy and it's a landing. 
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Raphael on April 12, 2011, 01:18:45 AM
It was a perfectly legitimate question that obviously you don't have an answer for...  That being the case, you should probably refrain from posting comments that make you look like a troll.

EDIT for manners.
DUDE! i SWEAR i didnt mean to troll.. i hate trolling, i said it is important because i never really thougth about it since i dont use the boat much. and it IS important.... what the hell is wrong with you......
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:20:36 AM
DUDE! i SWEAR i didnt mean to troll.. i hate trolling, i said it is important because i never really thougth about it since i dont use the boat much. and it IS important.... what the hell is wrong with you......

Sorry bro, I guess I'm getting too used to facetious comments on this board.  Like I said, I apologize for my misunderstanding.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 12, 2011, 01:21:25 AM
Perhaps it's related to the CV or port flashing?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:24:20 AM
Perhaps it's related to the CV or port flashing?

I have absolutely no clue.  I just brought it up because it came up in conversation last night on squad vox and I can't remember ever seeing anyone land damage or kills in a PT.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Raphael on April 12, 2011, 01:24:39 AM
its ok man.. i guess the way i said it could be interpreted as a troll, didnt mean to, but forgive me sometimes i fail BADLY on my english. most of the time i fail on a moderate way  :aok
anyway, have you tried it offline? perhaps memorizing the exact place were your sortie started (on a port case) and going around and then stopping on that very same point and finish it?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:28:41 AM
its ok man.. i guess the way i said it could be interpreted as a troll, didnt mean to, but forgive me sometimes i fail BADLY on my english. most of the time i fail on a moderate way  :aok
anyway, have you tried it offline? perhaps memorizing the exact place were your sortie started (on a port case) and going around and then stopping on that very same point and finish it?

No worries man, your english is better than alot of peoples' that claim it as their native language.  

Offline it seems to work if I don't leave the immediate area of the port and can come to a complete stop.  Online, in LW I've beached the boat and gotten a ditch.  I don't know if it has something to do with a larger landing area than a typical GV (6K), or if it has something to do with the port that you launch from...  Again, I'm at a loss.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Raphael on April 12, 2011, 01:31:24 AM
when is anyone from HTC comming to explain it to us step by step like if we were 5 years old?!
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 12, 2011, 01:35:57 AM
when is anyone from HTC comming to explain it to us step by step like if we were 5 years old?!

At the very minimum, about 6 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: CAP1 on April 12, 2011, 07:48:56 AM
A couple of squaddies and myself have tried landing PT boats in many situations...  The most extreme was when one of us drove one (afk for quite a while) 3 sectors out into the middle of nowhere into friendly water...  He got a ditch.  We've tried beaching our boats at a friendly base (no cons in sector), stopping and towering out by a CV that wasn't under attack, etc...  None of us has figured out how to get a "successful landing" message with the PT.  

It's not a big deal, but it'd be good to know if it IS possible.


spawn point
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: SlapShot on April 12, 2011, 08:07:44 AM
when is anyone from HTC comming to explain it to us step by step like if we were 5 years old?!

Rolex explained exactly how to do it already.

Get in front of and off to the side of a CV.

Make sure your at a dead stop.

As CV passes by you ... end sortie ... and you will get "landed".

At a port ...

Pull up next to a dock.

Make sure your at a dead stop.

End sortie ... and you will get "landed".


I have done it many times in both the MW and LW arenas.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 12, 2011, 08:07:49 AM
The only time I've ever landed successfully in a PT boat was when:

1: I was fully stopped
2: There were no enemy for a long ways (no icons, no dots, no dar-bars, no blinking).
3: I was very near an allied base (don't remember which type and I doubt it matters)

I believe it is safe to assume that the "successful" landing procedures are no different than trying to do the same in a gv while off friendly concrete.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: kvuo75 on April 12, 2011, 08:27:49 AM
I have absolutely no clue.  I just brought it up because it came up in conversation last night on squad vox and I can't remember ever seeing anyone land damage or kills in a PT.

august 23 2008

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Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Vinkman on April 12, 2011, 08:50:07 AM
We've been fooling with this for a while, on alot of maps.  Never got it to work.

I thought I got one by ending flgiht at teh PT boat Spawn. no?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: spacer on April 12, 2011, 08:55:35 AM
I have gotten a couple of PT boat landings.
Had to land very carefully at a base with the Runway almost on the water.
Get going very fast.  Straight at the end of the runway.
When you hit the beach, you will slide for a ways.  Of course it kills your engines.
When you come to a stop ON the RUNWAY.  You can tower out!

Did this once with something like 4-6 kills.

I will say, you have to be at the right base with everything working for you.   :D
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: waystin2 on April 12, 2011, 09:10:45 AM
The only way I remember getting a successful landing, other than being stopped within the boundary of a fleet, was by being stopped next to the pier of a port.

I have done both.  I recommend waiting at least 30 seconds or so to make absolutely sure that the boat is not moving.  You can do it! :aok
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Dichotomy on April 12, 2011, 09:13:16 AM
A PT boat offline sinking the task group is a great stress reliever.  Put on some hard metal or techno and go a blasting :D
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Rolex on April 12, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
I've never gotten a successful landing at a PT spawn point, even by launching and exiting without moving with no enemy in the area.

I'm sticking with the inside the fleet boundary and alongside the pier at a port. :D
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: crazyivan on April 12, 2011, 04:15:10 PM
(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/Unplugged24/ahss18.jpg)


Note: this was the same night of the epic Jeep expedition masacre. :banana:
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: rpm on April 13, 2011, 02:48:39 AM
Rolex I've had problems with landing in fleet boundaries. Finding a safe landing in a PT is nearly impossible. A port is the only base other than a CV I've ever landed successfully.

I think what everyone is asking for is an equivalent to what GV's have for a successful landing away from base. Seems reasonable.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Bruv119 on April 13, 2011, 02:52:17 AM
Only time I landed a PT was by doing a bond style leap of faith onto an airfield's runway that happened to be right next to the shore.

If only you got extra points for style.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Solar10 on April 13, 2011, 11:12:10 AM
Apart from sliding onto the runway the only other way I have done it is to not move.  That's the only way I can every be sure I am at a dead stop.  Maybe a little tolerance on the the definition of dead stop for PTs may be in order?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 13, 2011, 03:57:44 PM
Rolex I've had problems with landing in fleet boundaries. Finding a safe landing in a PT is nearly impossible. A port is the only base other than a CV I've ever landed successfully.

I think what everyone is asking for is an equivalent to what GV's have for a successful landing away from base. Seems reasonable.

Yeah, that's exactly the point.  It's a real pita to get out ahead of the CV, throw it in reverse, get totally stopped, and tower out before the task group is already past you.  The PT spawn points make it virtually impossible to land them when you spawn a sector or more from a port or airbase (with no CV around).  I love the PT boat, it's one of my favorite "quirk" rides, and I bet alot more would run PT raids if they knew they had a chance at landing.  It'd be fine if it was required to be at a dead stop, just make it so the 6k rule applies to them. 
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 13, 2011, 03:58:53 PM
Only time I landed a PT was by doing a bond style leap of faith onto an airfield's runway that happened to be right next to the shore.

If only you got extra points for style.

I would've LMAO if I was sitting on a runway about to take off and a PT boat came sliding past me.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAIbyteu on April 13, 2011, 07:01:28 PM
OK, so we proved it can be done.  BUT, why is it so dang hard?  Why can't you land it ike a GV?  If you spawn from a point out to somewhere, you are not going to make it back to the starting base unless driving on a beautiful fake lake is what you like to spend you night doing.  GV's don't have to drive back the the start base.  Just my 2 cents worth.   :angel:
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Raphael on April 13, 2011, 08:12:28 PM
I just got one "you landed sucsessfully" in an ENEMY port ._. what the heck?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Raphael on April 13, 2011, 08:17:53 PM
I have the ahfilm here and it shows that i reached the beach on the enemy port but the video ends before the "you have landed sucsessfully" message ): Buy I am not lying, there is no reason to lie about it, I should have taken the in game SS tho ):
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: BaldEagl on April 14, 2011, 12:20:54 AM
I get successful PT boat landings all the time.  Here's what you do:

Pull up alongside a friendly CV and drive to the front of it.  Chop throttle, put it in reverse then slam the throttle back open.  Watch behind you for your wake to stop then kill the engine and hit end sortie.  You will get a successful landing just as the stern of the CV passes.  You can come to a full stop within the length of the moving CV.

Nothing else works.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 14, 2011, 01:13:14 AM
I have the ahfilm here and it shows that i reached the beach on the enemy port but the video ends before the "you have landed sucsessfully" message ): Buy I am not lying, there is no reason to lie about it, I should have taken the in game SS tho ):

Post it.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 14, 2011, 01:13:59 AM
I get successful PT boat landings all the time.  Here's what you do:

Pull up alongside a friendly CV and drive to the front of it.  Chop throttle, put it in reverse then slam the throttle back open.  Watch behind you for your wake to stop then kill the engine and hit end sortie.  You will get a successful landing just as the stern of the CV passes.  You can come to a full stop within the length of the moving CV.

Nothing else works.

Doesn't that seem a little bit ridiculous though?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: BaldEagl on April 14, 2011, 07:24:01 AM
Doesn't that seem a little bit ridiculous though?

In terms of the fact it's the only place you can land successfully yes.  In terms of using full reverse to get stopped it's just the same as driving a real boat.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: kilz on April 14, 2011, 02:52:01 PM
to land a PT Boat you have to be with in 500 of the ORIGINAL CV or park in the Pier of which the ORIGINAL CV came from. cant be any port.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 14, 2011, 02:54:10 PM
I bet the folks at HTC are laughing and shaking their heads at the comical techniques for landing kills in a PT boat. 


          :rofl
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: curry1 on April 14, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
to land a PT Boat you have to be with in 500 of the ORIGINAL CV or park in the Pier of which the ORIGINAL CV came from. cant be any port.

What if you spawned from an airfield using a Pt boat spawn and went to another base?
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: AAJagerX on April 14, 2011, 06:45:58 PM
What if you spawned from an airfield using a Pt boat spawn and went to another base?

Won't work.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: BaldEagl on April 14, 2011, 08:44:42 PM
to land a PT Boat you have to be with in 500 of the ORIGINAL CV or park in the Pier of which the ORIGINAL CV came from. cant be any port.

Not true.  You can take a PT from anywhere and land successfully at any friendly CV.  I've done it countless times.  In fact one day I took a 5 hour PT cruise across one of the big maps finally successfully landing at a CV.  I even got to land three kills that day on planes that ran across me on my journey.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: ImADot on April 14, 2011, 09:34:06 PM
Tonight I got a ditch with 5 kills in a PT.  Base no longer flashing, a couple hundred yards offshore, complete stop with engine off...DITCH.  :(

Oh well.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: VAMPIRE 2? on April 15, 2011, 09:25:28 PM
still waiting for hitech to confirm how this is done.....
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 15, 2011, 09:40:29 PM
still waiting for hitech to confirm how this is done.....

It wouldn't surprise me if HTC didn't know.. hehe
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Dantoo on April 16, 2011, 10:20:33 AM
I get successful landings regularly in 3 circumstances:

Stop next to a cv (or where it was if it's been sunk) and tower,

Pull up dead stop in the "fingers" of the wharf at a port,

Launch my craft up and onto a runway or piece of concrete at a field that is very close to water.


It would be a more than useful addition if they had extended the "land anywhere" concept(s) to boats when it was added to gvs.  Not too late to do it now!
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Tyrannis on April 16, 2011, 01:56:28 PM
ive landed a pt boat by beaching myself close to an AF. try that.
Title: Re: PT Boat landing.
Post by: Tigger29 on April 16, 2011, 02:24:17 PM
I think the biggest trick of it is coming to a complete stop.  I'm pretty sure it follows the same rules as a GV meaning a complete stop and a certain amount of yardage from any enemy gets you a landing (or a complete stop on pavement).

The problem is that in the water, it's hard to tell if you're completely stopped or not, as even the tiniest amount of movement will get you a ditch or capture instead.

There definitely should be some allowance in movement... maybe 2MPH or something..