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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Pyro on May 18, 2000, 01:55:00 PM
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Just to clear up a few things about this upcoming system.
It is not meant to be something that only elite pilots can get. That's not the point at all. If you fly like you do now, you will eventually accumulate enough points to get a perk plane. Most planes you will be able to fly all you want, so it's not like you'll end up gettting stuck with lousy planes if you don't have any points.
This system does a few things for us. First it allows us to introduce planes that we otherwise would not be able to include because they would upset play balance. It also helps balance out plane selection and brings more diversity since people can get more points by flying less capable planes. Last, it gives players a tangible reward for their efforts.
You do not need to be a top pilot or fly mega hours each week to achieve a perk. Flying more will let you achieve it in a shorter amount of real time, but you'll still have to spend the same amount of in-game time.
This is a purely a game system for the main arena. How a plane gets classified only has to do with how it affects the main arena, not with how it served historically.
This system will also be used in bombers and vehicles. A B-29 and Tiger II would be examples of what we could add as perks there.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Thanks for clarification pyro.
Now, to something completely different: As a non-english speaker, the exact meaning of the word 'perk' is unclear to me. What does it mean?
Az
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Excellent Pyro! Thanks for clearing that up! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I feel much better about the idea and how you will implement it. <S> Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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daddog
332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)
Snapshots (http://www.ropescourse.org/snapshot.htm)
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perk = a bonus or a gift you would not normally have access to.
-Ding
PS...vielleicht ist es ein Geschenk
[This message has been edited by Dingy (edited 05-18-2000).]
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A bonus, or added benifit. Something in addition to what you would normally have, thrown on top.
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Perk means something special. A reward for something done. A bonus at work would be a perk or driving a company car as a reward is a perk. that help?
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Thanks for the elaboration, Pyro. I still think my idea of an "Uber Lottery" would be a fair way to control the number of uber rides per tour. When the uber rider gets shot down, his killer gets his ride. And so on, and so on. This way, the number of uber rides stays the same, only the owner changes.
What ya think of that idea?
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Perk = Something a coffee pot does.
Really though, a perk is an added benefit, sort of a bonus. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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daddog
332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)
Snapshots (http://www.ropescourse.org/snapshot.htm)
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Thanks for the explanation
Dingy, Geschenk would be a gift.
A perk would rather be Belohnung, like a bone you throw your dog if he was obeying orders (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Az
(Not that I have a dog, I'm happy with my cat (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))
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woof
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THANKS PYRO!! I retract all comments made earlier. Looking forward to the new system.
Gorf
OUT!
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Will all these perks cost the same, or is there going to be a graduated scale based on, um, perkiness?
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Interesting stuff, Pyro. I'm really hopeful that a system like this will work without unjustly penalizing folks based on flying styles. From the general overview you gave, it sounds like it might work. I anxiously await more specifics. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-- Todd/DMF
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Hmm...I wonder if the B-29 will have the atomic loadouts available? I can see it now, a radio transmission to all friendlies giving a ten minute-to-target warning to get out of the area, and then BA-BOOM, A-1 becomes a dusty low hill with radioactive wool drifting down for days..... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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(http://www.ropescourse.org/cgunthr.jpg)
332nd Flying Mongrels
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Did he say a "Tiger II" ?????
SCHWING !!!
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Pyro...please PLEASE tell me that Fw190D9 isnt a perk plane,but a 0 points one!!!
I NEED d9!! INEED D9!!! ...
and I need Ta152...but I'll fly it with the points collected in Fw190D9 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Ram, out
Fw190D9? Ta152H1? The truth is out there
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://members.tripod.com/JG2/)
(http://nottosc.tripod.com/ram190.gif)
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 05-18-2000).]
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If I use my Aces high Visa card will I get bonus perks (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)...hmmm guess we need to lobby for that...who needs stinking frequent flier miles...give me my uber-ride (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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ok, so I'm dense,,,,, (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Hmmm.. gonna be interesting to see how this works out...
But I still don't see what's gonna keep the "hot shots" outta the perk planes, while us low end target drone pilots seldom see em...
Whether ya use "points" for kills, or
K;D statistics = point's, or time in game, seems the end result falls to the better pilots any time you use a "limited access" system.
I'm willing to give it a go, (else ya wouldn't have my CC number (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
So far ya'all have done quite well in producing a game that'll do quite well by the average weekend flight sim person. I just hope it stays that way...
SC-GreyBeard
[This message has been edited by SC-GreyBeard (edited 05-18-2000).]
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Gawd u guys crack me up sometimes. I can hear the virtual hand-wringing! "Will my plane be a 'points-only' plane???"
Wonder if the cannon hawg'll be availble fer regular play.. or will it be a 'points plane?' (just curious)
Seems to be a neat system; certainly nothin ta get all worked up over tho. At least, not for me. I doubt I'll be seen in anything other than what I fly now... and I can't fathom a dedicated P51D or B/C driver being tempted away from what he loves to fly and fight in for anything else. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
You LW types can have yer TA-152 and Komet and whatever else they had in dribs and drabs.. I'll be waitin with my pony. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hey.. can we sell our points??? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))
Hang
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Hang, me and you can take that simple little P-51H that no one else wants to fly (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Just another Runstang right??
muahhahahhahah
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
Gawd u guys crack me up sometimes. I can hear the virtual hand-wringing! "Will my plane be a 'points-only' plane???"
Wonder if the cannon hawg'll be availble fer regular play.. or will it be a 'points plane?' (just curious)
Seems to be a neat system; certainly nothin ta get all worked up over tho. At least, not for me. I doubt I'll be seen in anything other than what I fly now... and I can't fathom a dedicated P51D or B/C driver being tempted away from what he loves to fly and fight in for anything else. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
You LW types can have yer TA-152 and Komet and whatever else they had in dribs and drabs.. I'll be waitin with my pony. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hey.. can we sell our points??? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))
Hang
Oh ya..
wasnt there one(1) P51B made with 4 * 20mm
that would be an perk for ya old fella
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Is it possible we could have a b29 that can carry a nuke!?!? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Imagine the advertisement - first online sim to model nukes !! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I know what a perk plane is and I aint telling. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
1st Aces High Trainer Corps.
Home of The Allied Fighter Wing A.F.W.
A.F.W. Homepage (http://www.geocities.com/~tltoon)
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B-29...........<drools> ahhhhhhhhh
want........that.......plane. .........
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LOL
I think HTC should also let B-29 pilots be able to spend points on nukes.
<visions of totaly wasted bases dance in beefs head>
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Sure, model nukes, then model the fact you cannot capture the field for the next 26,000 years.... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Why am I getting this image of a P51 armed with 1c cannons, torque at the stick, eyeballs spinning, with drool dripping from the cornors of a manic grin.
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P-51H? Did someone just say P-51H?
<A chorus starts singing in the background>
HAL-aHHHHHHH-llllluuuuuuuu YA!
<For approximately 10 minutes Roman simply stares wide eyed at the words on the screen>
Drool.....
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Himmm? Sounds like what we had in WarBirds before the RPS.
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Otto CO (http://www.cris.com/~ziggy2/Intro.htm)
111th Fighter Group (http://www.cris.com/~ziggy2/)
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LOL.. a P51H (hang dreams whistfully)... Or even the XP-51F or Mustang V; gawd.. the ultimate uber Mustangs.
But it'll never happen. The LW lobby will fillibuster. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Hang
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How about we cover all the planes that fought in WW2 before we cover those that didn't. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Since you'll earn more points for scoring kills in less capable aircraft, will this lead to BBS threads in which lazs argues vociferously that the F4U was actually a complete dog of a plane and should therefore earn more points per kill than, say a Fw190?
Hmmmm just dreaming (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Did he say something about Ta-152 in the news... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Or maybe we just stick to He-162 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Please put the perk plane icon in blue so that we can know who this special person is that needs a better plane than everyone else.
lazs
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On points. I dont know what anything is worth now. Scoreing is hidden someplace I guess. If this is done. How about an explanation of scoreing.
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Howabout 'cause plenty of people actually want the latewar planes Funked?
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SnakeEyes
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=4th Fighter Group=
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SnakeBrain I mean non-WW2 planes, not late-war planes. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Az = nobody answered your question. The correct answer is:
perk is short for perquisite, which itself somehow got substantiated.
Dinger
(anyone at M$ wanna give me a job writing help files?)
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Funked I think there was a post from someone at HTC that said they want to be different and not do the Been there done that routine.
HTC said WWII era that covers alot of airplanes, Pyros post asking for what one plane you want to see come to AH should tell you alot. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
For you B29 dudes read up on the B19 it actualy was used in WWII. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
1st Aces High Trainer Corps.
Home of The Allied Fighter Wing A.F.W.
A.F.W. Homepage (http://www.geocities.com/~tltoon)
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PUUUUUUUUUUNT!!!
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B-29?!?!! As exclaimed by the lucky teen in Animal House:
"THANK YOU, GOD!"
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-goob-
Dweebs of Death
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Blah.
Call me a traditionalist, but I prefer history to fantasy. Not looking forward to the perk system at all.
"Gather points and win a teddy! Yes, you can do it!"
Once again, blah. My opinion, if you cannot take it, STFU.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"
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Well,
lets see and judge. But I agree with StSanta: stick with history and not with fantasy. I dont like the old WB system (How a plane gets classified only has to do with how it affects the main arena, not with how it served historically)
And I dont like a/c that saw combat only for 1 or 2 months. If I understand well the Main Arena wont ever have an RPS or a balanced plane set. Too bad.
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Please put the perk plane icon in blue so that we can know who this special person is that needs a better plane than everyone else.
No need to do that, peoples that need to fly better planes already fly blue planes!
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jochen Jagdflieger JG 2 'Richthofen' Aces High
jochen Geschwaderkommodore (on leave) Jagdgeschwader 2 'Richthofen' (http://personal.inet.fi/cool/jan.nousiainen/JG2) Warbirds
Thanks for the Fw 190A-5 HTC!
Ladysmith wants you forthwith to come to her relief
Burn your briefs you leave for France tonight
Carefully cut the straps of the booby-traps and set the captives free
But don't shoot 'til you see her big blue eyes
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I'm still with StSanta on this...
IC