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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on April 13, 2011, 12:03:38 AM
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Anyone catch the season premier? Nice salute to Captain Phil at the start. :cheers:
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Meh, that series is getting tired.
It's come to the point were I just don't care if most of them sink or swim based upon their turd-punchery.
"It's cold out here" yawn....
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Then why bother commenting, Melvin?
"...I don't care if most of them sink or swim..."
Oh the ignorance, it burns, it burns!
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rpm asked, I answered.
You should see a doctor about that burning, a quick shot will set you up.
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Yep, same ole thing.
Just like every episode they have an salute to captain phil and coast guard has to rescue a dude with a broken neck and compound fracture.
Yep, every episode is like that. Lmao
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it recorded last night so I'll watch it to see how the season is going to shape up
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Even though I enjoyed the series at first, it's no longer anything I follow. It is a hard life they choose, but a profitable one. Many of them work 5-6 months a year, and play the rest.
Discovery/History Channel (and such) used to actually have good programming. Real Science/History, etc. Once they hit with this show, and it hit big, all the rest of the "learning channels" followed suit. Now you can't find anything on any of them except "Swamp People/Ax Men/ Deadliest Catch or whatever End of the World/ UFO crap they can find". Not a single one of those shows contributes an iota of value. Even Science Channel has followed the rest with "Mantracker". Smithsonian might be the last bastion of actual learning on TV.
Sad, our viewing habits as a country.
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PBS/NOVA has some really good programming as well. Its amazing that there is still a network (and public broadcast at that!) that presents its material without resorting to sound-byte, attention-grabbing gimmicks or popular culture references.
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New season of Axmen In Foil Hats Staring At Goats While Fishing looks like a winner. :x
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Even though I enjoyed the series at first, it's no longer anything I follow. It is a hard life they choose, but a profitable one. Many of them work 5-6 months a year, and play the rest.
Discovery/History Channel (and such) used to actually have good programming. Real Science/History, etc. Once they hit with this show, and it hit big, all the rest of the "learning channels" followed suit. Now you can't find anything on any of them except "Swamp People/Ax Men/ Deadliest Catch or whatever End of the World/ UFO crap they can find". Not a single one of those shows contributes an iota of value. Even Science Channel has followed the rest with "Mantracker". Smithsonian might be the last bastion of actual learning on TV.
Sad, our viewing habits as a country.
^^^^^^
This X 100. I used to like to tune in on shows about subjects I knew nothing about. Not much of that available anymore.
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I've got an AWESOME idea for a TV show! We can get a group of people who insert from list below into this space, and we can film them while they argue, throw tantrums, form cliques, insult each other, and generally act like drama queen high school girls! It'll be a HIT!!!
possibilities for above:
run a commercial fishing boat
build motorcycles
drive tractor-trailer trucks
run a commercial crabbing boat
run a pawn shop
live on an island and participate in a contrived silly game
build cars
customize cars
etc etc etc
No wonder people from older generations look down on people today. It seems like every day the average intelligence of the population drops by double digits. Reality TV's success is a flashing neon sign warning that the idea that we as a society will eventually evolve (devolve) into an "Idiocracy," and no one seems to notice or care.
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Get five to eight AH players and stick them in a house for a month. Let the drama commence. :lol
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Get five to eight AH players and stick them in a house for a month. Let the drama commence. :lol
:rofl That, of course, begs the question... Which five to eight AH players would make for the best programming?
Shall we nominate a few? :D
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Even though I enjoyed the series at first, it's no longer anything I follow. It is a hard life they choose, but a profitable one. Many of them work 5-6 months a year, and play the rest.
Discovery/History Channel (and such) used to actually have good programming. Real Science/History, etc. Once they hit with this show, and it hit big, all the rest of the "learning channels" followed suit. Now you can't find anything on any of them except "Swamp People/Ax Men/ Deadliest Catch or whatever End of the World/ UFO crap they can find". Not a single one of those shows contributes an iota of value. Even Science Channel has followed the rest with "Mantracker". Smithsonian might be the last bastion of actual learning on TV.
Sad, our viewing habits as a country.
+1
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Get five to eight AH players and stick them in a house for a month. Let the drama commence. :lol
AHAHAHAHA!!!
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PBS/NOVA has some really good programming as well. Its amazing that there is still a network (and public broadcast at that!) that presents its material without resorting to sound-byte, attention-grabbing gimmicks or popular culture references.
Seems to me that PBS only shows good programming during the fundraising telethons. Rest of the time nothing of interest.
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Get five to eight AH players and stick them in a house for a month. Let the drama commence. :lol
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,302117.msg3876155.html#msg3876155 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,302117.msg3876155.html#msg3876155)
It would eventually turn to this ^ :rofl
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Even though I enjoyed the series at first, it's no longer anything I follow. It is a hard life they choose, but a profitable one. Many of them work 5-6 months a year, and play the rest.
Discovery/History Channel (and such) used to actually have good programming. Real Science/History, etc. Once they hit with this show, and it hit big, all the rest of the "learning channels" followed suit. Now you can't find anything on any of them except "Swamp People/Ax Men/ Deadliest Catch or whatever End of the World/ UFO crap they can find". Not a single one of those shows contributes an iota of value. Even Science Channel has followed the rest with "Mantracker". Smithsonian might be the last bastion of actual learning on TV.
Sad, our viewing habits as a country.
I used to pay extra fees to be able to watch all of those channels on satellite. They were the only real reason I had satellite to begin with... When they switched over to running all that crap I cancelled my subscription, and went back to an antenna on the roof. Free tv again...
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:rofl That, of course, begs the question... Which five to eight AH players would make for the best programming?
Shall we nominate a few? :D
I want to see...
Asbatt, Perdweeb, vDogfite, Shawk, Floatsup, Dmgod, Dadsguns, zack1234, and Betty. :cheers:
oh and special guest appearances by vonmessa
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^^^^^^
This X 100. I used to like to tune in on shows about subjects I knew nothing about. Not much of that available anymore.
I remember when the only "info" channels was "The Discovery Channel" And it really was like a discovery.
My Brother in law and I used to love getting stoned. Having a couple of beers and watching shows about carnivorous plants, Jelly fish and all sorts of odd things you would only normally catch on either a National Geographic special or NOVA. One of my favorite "shows" was "The Secret Life of Machines" such as this one on video tape recorders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apt8TgJLXXo&feature=related
Which is far more fascinating then your current "modern marvels" or "how its made" shows today
Then came "The History Channel" And I was stoked. And it really was about history. Even their "shows" were historically based.
Now all these channels have shows that have very little to do with what they advertise themselves as. And the shows they do have they show over and over and over.
Take "the military History channel". Some what? 3,000 years of history and they can only cover the same few subjects? And the little info bits they show instead of commercials they repeat so often I'd almost rather see the commercials.
For example. I've seen and so often and am so sick of seeing that old man that was at Normandy with the little piece of shrapnel he has as a souvenir. That I almost want to reinsert it into his arse just to get him to STFU about it.
I only rarely watch any of these channels anymore. And then only if they have something havent seen before. Which is usually like 1 show in 100
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Lots of generalizations in this thread about "those tv channels that used to be good". And not very accurate ones. The fact is that every channel has its reality-ish shows, and they all have the shows they're previously known for too (except TLC is worthless now). Typically they load certain days of the week with one type, then other days loaded with another type. So if you see River Monsters followed by Man vs. Wild followed by Survivorman (all of which are very good shows btw), you might want to check back tomorrow.
Back on topic, I caught Deadliest Catch and thought it was pretty good. I kinda wanted to see a bit more of who was on the crab and who wasn't before the show ended. I'm looking forward to see how the new boats to the show do, and what this blue crab thing is all about.
Edit: Meteor Hunters and Storm Chasers are both reality-ish shows with excellent science behind them and are very entertaining to boot. Just because the show has a reality element doesn't make it worthless.
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Its the manufactured drama that turns me off from those shows. That and knowing that someone took a handful of unknowns and made a show worth a couple hundred bucks and forcefeed us, making big bucks from the sponsors.
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I think Jake is still using
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I want to see...
Asbatt, Perdweeb, vDogfite, Shawk, Floatsup, Dmgod, Dadsguns, zack1234, and Betty. :cheers:
oh and special guest appearances by vonmessa
Would betty become the new Snooki?
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I think Jake is still using
Not sure if it was during the filming season, but he was busted a couple months ago for Hit & Run and DUI in Seattle. :frown:
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The thing about "reality" shows is that it is extremely easy for them to turn a profit. They are extremely cheap to produce, there is a lot of advertisement money to be made (product placement, etc) as it is extremely easy to use those products in the show, and with many people's "dumbed-down" standards for amusement there is almost a guaranteed audience due to the shock factor alone. Love it or hate it, most people are going to watch at least once... The only way that's going to happen is if people quit watching it. It's gotten so bad that ABC just cancelled "One Life to Live" and "All My Children" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110415/ap_en_ot/us_tv_daytime_dramas) to replace them with "Reality" shows. Unfortunately, it's going to get worse before it gets any better.
It's all part of this "sell-out" society we live in. I understand the need for things to be profitable, but when quality is compromised for a guarantee of income.. well that's what I consider a sell-out. Take movie sequels for example... how often do you see a "Part two" that is as good as the original? ALMOST NEVER. If you think about it, the sequel doesn't have to be good. People are still going to watch it anyway because they loved the original so much. What really burns my britches is when they specifically set up the original for a sequel.
Television, movies, music, and even video games have really gone downhill though. It's almost like they've run out of original material to write about, so they have to copy off of each other. A remake every once in a while can be a good thing, but when the majority of material released is a remake or a sequel... that just tells me that no one wants to invest in original material anymore.
I'm finding myself looking forward to watching "Cowboys and Aliens" when it comes out because it's something different for a change, AND it's not a cartoon! And although I do love cartoons, I'm in no hurry to see Rio because it looks like "more of the same."
I actually used to really love "American Chopper" even knowing that a lot of it was instigated, but when I saw absolute proof that it was completely fake.. well that completely turned me off of it.. and most other reality shows (the few I cared about anyway). It was the scene where Junior and Senior got into the big fight in the office and Junior stormed off the day before he was let go (or quit or whatever). After he stormed off, Senior kicked the mini-fridge that had a microwave sitting on top of it, sending both appliances flying across the room. If you look close, there was an outlet behind the fridge but yet neither appliance was plugged in. Why would that be?
What ticks me off even more is the over-dramatizing of 'normal' things that tends to happen in those shows! You know, the stuff that looks good in the previews but really doesn't mean squat? One example was that Flying Alaska show which really could have been great, but on one landing he did a fly over the dirt strip and the narrator made it seem like it was too windy to land safely with two passengers and a baby on board. Then after the commercial he makes a picture perfect landing, dead center.. not even crabbing at all or anything. Then once out of the plane they are all being interviewed and there is no wind whatsoever.. even their clothing isn't blowing around! There's no doubt in my mind that he did to a fly over first, but probably to check for big rocks or potholes or animals, etc.. that could be in the way and not at all because of the wind.
I just feel like I'm being played for a fool when they do stuff like that. I really am *THIS* close to cancelling my cable altogether and rabbit-earing for a while. Losing HD might be a bit annoying but at least I'll have Blu-rays and Netflix. I watch them 90% of the time anyway.
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Good episode today, GREAT After the Catch segment. I almost thought it was going to turn into a hockey game there.
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I hate what jake and josh have become, more jake, just saddening. I don't think derrick did anything wrong, it was his ship now. It had to ran his way, I also don't think he talked trash about phil, off camera who knows.
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Not sure if it was during the filming season, but he was busted a couple months ago for Hit & Run and DUI in Seattle. :frown:
"Mr. Harris was spotted driving a BMW 3 Series erratically Thursday evening by a citizen in Shoreline, Wa. We were able to locate his vehicle by aircraft, and he was pulled over in the Seattle area. The car was registered to his father," says Washington State Patrol spokesman Dan McDonald.
"He failed a field sobriety test and refused to take a toxicological test," McDonald added. "After further investigation, it was found that he was involved in a hit and run with another occupied vehicle earlier in the evening. He had rear-ended another car."
Derrick got a raw deal.
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I remember when I just couldn't look away from that show. Now it's like--they're pullin in a big pot of crabs--AGAIN! wow
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I hate what jake and josh have become, more jake, just saddening. I don't think derrick did anything wrong, it was his ship now. It had to ran his way, I also don't think he talked trash about phil, off camera who knows.
Derek made the comment that Phil failed to teach the boys anything. More than once.
Further, Jake and Josh are now part owners in the boat, they hired Derek to be a captain, and he did not produce, he blamed the crew for the failure to produce, but he was the one that decided where to set the pots. He was so busy trying to bust Jake (who tested clean for opi season) that he forgot to run the boat. Since the Harris boys and Mrs Devlin hired Derek to be the captain, and he didn't run the boat, or catch crab, he didn't do anything right. It was Derek and his antics who ran Freddie off the boat, his BS was the last straw.
By no means are Jake and Josh without fault, but Derek did a lousy job, and looked for a scapegoat when he couldn't produce. Jake and Josh are part owners now, so the captain works for them. If a guy I hired talked to me, and about my father, the way Derek did, I'd fire him in a heartbeat, especially if he didn't produce. He didn't catch 30K pounds of crab in 3 weeks, at the cost of $160K.
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"deadliest catch without the crabs,almost outta gas-call the A-rabs"
-Boats N hoes
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Derek made the comment that Phil failed to teach the boys anything. More than once.
Further, Jake and Josh are now part owners in the boat, they hired Derek to be a captain, and he did not produce, he blamed the crew for the failure to produce, but he was the one that decided where to set the pots. He was so busy trying to bust Jake (who tested clean for opi season) that he forgot to run the boat. Since the Harris boys and Mrs Devlin hired Derek to be the captain, and he didn't run the boat, or catch crab, he didn't do anything right. It was Derek and his antics who ran Freddie off the boat, his BS was the last straw.
By no means are Jake and Josh without fault, but Derek did a lousy job, and looked for a scapegoat when he couldn't produce. Jake and Josh are part owners now, so the captain works for them. If a guy I hired talked to me, and about my father, the way Derek did, I'd fire him in a heartbeat, especially if he didn't produce. He didn't catch 30K pounds of crab in 3 weeks, at the cost of $160K.
So what your saying is that the entire crew can talk as much trash about the captain, not be responsible for the captain, and bring drugs onto the boat. They were also blue crab fishing, IIRC everyone was struggling to get the large amounts of blue crab. I also do not see how saying their father did a huge injustice means talking trash, maybe we have different definitions of that, Phil and Derek were friends for a long time, close friends from what I could tell from After the Catch. It was time for Freddie to move on, how do you know that he wasn't tired of Jake and Josh's antics?
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lol who needs discovery we have these forums <S>
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So what your saying is that the entire crew can talk as much trash about the captain, not be responsible for the captain, and bring drugs onto the boat. They were also blue crab fishing, IIRC everyone was struggling to get the large amounts of blue crab. I also do not see how saying their father did a huge injustice means talking trash, maybe we have different definitions of that, Phil and Derek were friends for a long time, close friends from what I could tell from After the Catch. It was time for Freddie to move on, how do you know that he wasn't tired of Jake and Josh's antics?
Derek didn't catch enough blue king crab to buy fuel, in three weeks. He didn't produce, period, plain and simple. He blamed the crew, when he called the pot location. Derek was too busy trying to play "pot police" (I hate pot, by the way, more than 90% of people you'll ever meet, it has no place anywhere, never mind on a working boat) to try to catch crab. He failed to catch crab. Sorry, 10K pounds of crab a week ain't getting it done. Three weeks, and he didn't make enough money to buy diesel, and buy groceries, the crew didn't get paid at all, and the boat lost money. He wasn't struggling to catch large amounts, he wasn't catching anything at all, the guy never pulled a string of double digit pots. He came on a top five boat, and didn't catch crab. He blamed everyone but Derek. The 29 year old green horn captain caught blue king crab, but Derek didn't. That's called failure to produce. So no, everyone fishing for blue king crab didn't fail to produce, apparently, no one failed as bad as Derek.
The crew is not responsible for the captain, it's the captain's responsibility to catch crab, and keep the boat safe. The crew has the responsibility to follow orders. They set pots when and where he said, they pulled pots when he said. The pots were empty. Derek wasn't man enough to accept responsibility for all the empty pots, he had to go on a witch hunt instead of running the boat. Derek wasn't the one who put out $160K to go crab fishing, the Harris boys and Mrs Devlin did, apparently it was mostly the Harris boys, maybe the last of their money.
You don't fail to produce, and then scream at the guys who hired you, and expect to keep your job and, have respect. And you don't demand respect, you earn respect. Pushing people around, bad mouthing people, and failing to produce won't earn you respect or cooperation. Regardless of what he as done before, Derek was a total failure on that trip, and refused to accept any of the blame.
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They quit fishing after like 8 days... not 3 weeks. Phil didn't catch any crab for two full weeks before and there was no mutiny. Being a captain isn't about respect in the sense you are refering too... same as a soldier in basic, but you damn sure better do any and everything they say. It HAS to be like that. It isn't a democracy. I didn't respect my drill Sgts... I thought they were dicks and that was their job... but I damn sure did everything they told me.
It is a bit of a no-win situation to have two crew members be part owners of the boat and part-hire the captain (though I doubt they even gave their opinion on the matter)
Derrick was a bit harsh with his comments about Phil I think.
Bottom line though... reality TV doesn't show reality... it shows bits and pieces and they look at everything they have and decide one storyline they are going to show... then look for the snippets that reinforce that.
Couple of articles from Derrick's perspective.
http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2011/05/seaside_captain_faces_a_mutiny.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2011/05/deadliest_catch_captain_derric.html
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Derek didn't catch enough blue king crab to buy fuel, in three weeks. He didn't produce, period, plain and simple. He blamed the crew, when he called the pot location. Derek was too busy trying to play "pot police" (I hate pot, by the way, more than 90% of people you'll ever meet, it has no place anywhere, never mind on a working boat) to try to catch crab. He failed to catch crab. Sorry, 10K pounds of crab a week ain't getting it done. Three weeks, and he didn't make enough money to buy diesel, and buy groceries, the crew didn't get paid at all, and the boat lost money. He wasn't struggling to catch large amounts, he wasn't catching anything at all, the guy never pulled a string of double digit pots. He came on a top five boat, and didn't catch crab. He blamed everyone but Derek. The 29 year old green horn captain caught blue king crab, but Derek didn't. That's called failure to produce. So no, everyone fishing for blue king crab didn't fail to produce, apparently, no one failed as bad as Derek.
The crew is not responsible for the captain, it's the captain's responsibility to catch crab, and keep the boat safe. The crew has the responsibility to follow orders. They set pots when and where he said, they pulled pots when he said. The pots were empty. Derek wasn't man enough to accept responsibility for all the empty pots, he had to go on a witch hunt instead of running the boat. Derek wasn't the one who put out $160K to go crab fishing, the Harris boys and Mrs Devlin did, apparently it was mostly the Harris boys, maybe the last of their money.
You don't fail to produce, and then scream at the guys who hired you, and expect to keep your job and, have respect. And you don't demand respect, you earn respect. Pushing people around, bad mouthing people, and failing to produce won't earn you respect or cooperation. Regardless of what he as done before, Derek was a total failure on that trip, and refused to accept any of the blame.
Well said. :aok
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Derek didn't catch enough blue king crab to buy fuel, in three weeks. He didn't produce, period, plain and simple. He blamed the crew, when he called the pot location. Derek was too busy trying to play "pot police" (I hate pot, by the way, more than 90% of people you'll ever meet, it has no place anywhere, never mind on a working boat) to try to catch crab. He failed to catch crab. Sorry, 10K pounds of crab a week ain't getting it done. Three weeks, and he didn't make enough money to buy diesel, and buy groceries, the crew didn't get paid at all, and the boat lost money. He wasn't struggling to catch large amounts, he wasn't catching anything at all, the guy never pulled a string of double digit pots. He came on a top five boat, and didn't catch crab. He blamed everyone but Derek. The 29 year old green horn captain caught blue king crab, but Derek didn't. That's called failure to produce. So no, everyone fishing for blue king crab didn't fail to produce, apparently, no one failed as bad as Derek.
The crew is not responsible for the captain, it's the captain's responsibility to catch crab, and keep the boat safe. The crew has the responsibility to follow orders. They set pots when and where he said, they pulled pots when he said. The pots were empty. Derek wasn't man enough to accept responsibility for all the empty pots, he had to go on a witch hunt instead of running the boat. Derek wasn't the one who put out $160K to go crab fishing, the Harris boys and Mrs Devlin did, apparently it was mostly the Harris boys, maybe the last of their money.
You don't fail to produce, and then scream at the guys who hired you, and expect to keep your job and, have respect. And you don't demand respect, you earn respect. Pushing people around, bad mouthing people, and failing to produce won't earn you respect or cooperation. Regardless of what he as done before, Derek was a total failure on that trip, and refused to accept any of the blame.
+100
still my favorite show, followed by swamp people. besides reruns of "scrubs" these shows are the only reason i bother to turn on the TV