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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: doomed on April 13, 2011, 07:58:52 PM
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Ok so im a bit old and have had satilite since the mid 90's and my basic love is the history channle and discovery and the other learning channles but over the last few years WTF has happend to them? They are all just reality tv shows and stupid ones at that. I must admit i do like dirty jobs and mythbusters but other than that its getting stupid. Once in a while history international has something on about history but for the rest theres nothing about history on them.
Is it just me or does anyone else see this
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On the anniversary of D-Day the History Channel played an all-day Ice Road Truckers marathon.
'nuff said.
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On the anniversary of D-Day the History Channel played an all-day Ice Road Truckers marathon.
'nuff said.
I, personally, mailed in a complaint. It's disgusting, but that's capitalism.
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I have watched it transform before my very eyes. And as mentioned above, even history international has fallen prey to the hijacking. There is a reason it is called TV programming. All of TV is now in a race to catch up with the alternative media on the web, It looks like its a losing battle for TV.
Strange times we live in Bro's!
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I agree, its not the same as it used to. I loved when I would turn it on and dogfights would be on for 5 hours. Or heavy metal would be on doing informational videos on tanks, planes, ships, and so forth.
-BigBOBCH
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I agree, its not the same as it used to. I loved when I would turn it on and dogfights would be on for 5 hours. Or heavy metal would be on doing informational videos on tanks, planes, ships, and so forth.
-BigBOBCH
I remember when it was real documentaries on Rommel's war in the desert or Attacks on the Dragon's Jaw Bridge.
Now its all garbage.
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The company that runs the History channel, among others, got a woman CEO. At least that is what I have been told.
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I remember when it was real documentaries on Rommel's war in the desert or Attacks on the Dragon's Jaw Bridge.
Now its all garbage.
Yup even that stuff. It seems like when i get up at 6am to get ready for college and turn TV on, there are documentaries on. But once it hits like 8am they are over and its all the new stuff.
-BigBOBCH
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AT&T carries a channel called Military History.
That's exactly what it is too, military history
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Same type of crap has happened to the SciFi channel. SciFi now shows Wrestling and just recently started airing a retarded cooking show!
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AT&T carries a channel called Military History.
That's exactly what it is too, military history
Yes... I have given up on that too. A few years back I thought it was awesome, now I realize its just a cheerleader for the MIC which is funny because they won't upgrade to HD on Dish Network... I'm such a hypocrite.
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AT&T carries a channel called Military History.
That's exactly what it is too, military history
personally i like watching that channel, no commercial BS, all informative programming (well, for the most part)
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i miss that show called Mail Call on the History channel, i dont know why they stopped showing it :cry
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i miss that show called Mail Call on the History channel, i dont know why they stopped showing it :cry
Heck yes, I love R Lee Ermey. Mail Call was one of my fav shows.
-BigBOBCH
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He has one now called Locked and Loaded
Military channel has some stuff on during the day. Was watching one about strategic bombing of the USAAF diring WW2 for europe and pacific theatres.
Also check out the smithsonian channel. That has some good stuff on it once in a while
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Military Channel = Americaz pwnzz joo all!!!
It's all one sided, you rarely see anything about the Axis or even any of the other major Allies.
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Military Channel = Americaz pwnzz joo all!!!
It's all one sided, you rarely see anything about the Axis or even any of the other major Allies.
Wings of the luftwaffe?
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Wings of the luftwaffe?
:lol thats exactly what i thought when i saw his post.
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Yeah I don't know where he's getting the whole one sided thing, I see things on it all the time about Germany & Hitler.
Also the Military History channel is great too, I love the no commercials thing, how they just show clips from other military programs when it does cut away from the current show on. Like someone else mentioned, the Smithsonian Channel shows some good stuff from time to time about the military too.
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Actually History and History International show military themed programming all the time. Just not ALL the time, if you catch my drift. The Military channel is owned by the same company as the History channel, and they might have more of what you're looking for if you want military type stuff 24/7. I watch these channels very frequently as I do things on my computer (mainly as background noise that I only pay close attention to when something interesting is going on).
Now Discovery has a lot of blue collar job or science based reality TV on it. I find some of that entertaining as well, personally, but you won't find what you've described on Discovery very often. For more of the science stuff that used to be on Discovery, you've got National Geographic channel, Net Geo Wild, Smithsonian channel, Planet Green, Animal Plant, and of course, the Science Channel.
You can't just get everything you want to watch in two channels any more. Every channel has branched out, not put all their eggs in one basket so to speak. My DirecTV bill is also quite a bit higher than I'd like, but hell, I like these channels and get the upgraded package (other than Smithsonian, which I mentioned but don't get).
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Actually History and History International show military themed programming all the time. Just not ALL the time, if you catch my drift. The Military channel is owned by the same company as the History channel, and they might have more of what you're looking for if you want military type stuff 24/7. I watch these channels very frequently as I do things on my computer (mainly as background noise that I only pay close attention to when something interesting is going on).
Now Discovery has a lot of blue collar job or science based reality TV on it. I find some of that entertaining as well, personally, but you won't find what you've described on Discovery very often. For more of the science stuff that used to be on Discovery, you've got National Geographic channel, Net Geo Wild, Smithsonian channel, Planet Green, Animal Plant, and of course, the Science Channel.
You can't just get everything you want to watch in two channels any more. Every channel has branched out, not put all their eggs in one basket so to speak. My DirecTV bill is also quite a bit higher than I'd like, but hell, I like these channels and get the upgraded package (other than Smithsonian, which I mentioned but don't get).
Yeah he's right, most of the channels have branched out and developed channels that are specific to types of programming, like I love science type's of programming so I watch a lot of the Science Channel. I also do like some of the reality type programs that they do have on the History Channel & Discovery Channel like Pawn Stars, Gold Rush, Flying Wild Alaska, American Restoration, and some others.
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I've watched it change as well and it's sad...but that's why I have the military channel.... :(
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It all started to go down hill when MTV had to add a second channel to make up for the lack of M in their TV... not that too has gone to crap.
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TV is dead. Use the internet instead.
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As most have said the channels mentioned are showing 'garbage' shows. The Military Channel here is payperview and as the cable bill is high enough already, that is a no go.
I like all kinds of racing (cars, bikes, boats), so the Speed Channel was (operative word) one channel I liked. Now it to is filled with 'garbage' shows.
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The Military Channel here is payperview and as the cable bill is high enough already, that is a no go.
You have to pay to watch any shows on The Military channel, what the hell kind of cable service do you have?
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AT&T carries a channel called Military History.
That's exactly what it is too, military history
Yea. But they only take 5 or 6 periods in history and then play the same shows over, and over,and over, and over again. 98% of the time. Occasionally throwing in something different
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The History channel sux. I like the Military Channel, but even that gets old.
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Pentagon channel :aok Of course not too much on the Historical stuff, mainly current events.
The others are for sure not what they once were.
<S> Oz
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Yeah I don't know where he's getting the whole one sided thing, I see things on it all the time about Germany & Hitler.
Also the Military History channel is great too, I love the no commercials thing, how they just show clips from other military programs when it does cut away from the current show on. Like someone else mentioned, the Smithsonian Channel shows some good stuff from time to time about the military too.
And that would be great cept they show the same damn clips 1,000 times over.
In a 1 hour show I counted once they showed the same damn "mail call" segment 4 times
Like I said in the other thread. At this pint I'd almost rather see the commercials
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Wings of the luftwaffe?
Not to mention 4 episodes about Gunther Rall in the Missions that changed the war series.
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Ice Road Truckers happened.
I'm thinking of pitching a show to them called "Hot Dog Vendors" in which bikini clad girls operate hot dog stands in south miami.
One episode we have Hollie experiencing a bully who overcharges for propane and later Wendy and Lisa get into a catfight over territory.
It's guaranteed to be put on heavy rotation.
Yes, this is a response posted elsewhere 4 years ago.
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Military Channel = Americaz pwnzz joo all!!!
It's all one sided, you rarely see anything about the Axis or even any of the other major Allies.
Yeah and it has shows that show Israelis winning in 1973 it is very western biased they did have israeli and syrian tankers in the show. However, they have German WWII aces on some of their programming talking about shooting down british, american and russian aircraft. In fact they had a show called Wings of the Luftwaffe which talkked about only German Planes.
Unfortunately there is a reason for it to be pro-american not only is it run by an american company but it is hard to find a war where Americans have lost. :D
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Or what about worlds greatest tank battles? I saw one last week and they were talking to german and American tankers
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Baggy pants with underwear showing crowd took over. Nothing requiring any intelligence on TV now.
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I also recall there being a shootout episode on Stalingrad
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Ok, you're right I've seen wings of the luftwaffe and others between 12-8am.
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You're completely right that the majority are about the US, but I'd say a solid 30% of the programming isn't.
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One of the worst things about both of those channels is the glorifying of murderers and gang bangers. History channel has given just about every handsomehunk gang in the country their time in the spotlight. Now discovery has a show letting murderers tell their story of how they almost got away with it. What purpose does that serve other than to encourage/glorify sweetheartbags and keep the average law abiding people scared and locked in their houses. They are a joke like every other channel on tv. Nothing but carefully designed hypnosis/psychological warfare.
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Not to mention 4 episodes about Gunther Rall in the Missions that changed the war series.
that was cool. :aok
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Go to the NOVA website and BBC and get all the documentaries you will ever want. PBS is also great for the stuff.
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Now discovery has a show letting murderers tell their story of how they almost got away with it. What purpose does that serve other than to encourage/glorify sweetheartbags and keep the average law abiding people scared and locked in their houses. They are a joke like every other channel on tv. Nothing but carefully designed hypnosis/psychological warfare.
I really like that show "I almost got away with it", and the purpose it provides is it's entertaining to watch, I really don't think it encourages anyone to go out and commit crimes and they try to go on the run, I mean the show isn't "I got away with it" every episode ends the same way, with the person sitting behind bars in prison.
And how does this show make people scared to leave there houses, I mean by that logic the evening news does the same thing.
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Look at the executive officers for the whole A&E network. It's gone the same direction as the BBC which is mostly run by women now. Women don't care about what makes a male audience watch programs. They would prefer you watch what they think is important and adjust the programing to garner femal viewership.
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The president of SyFy(SciFi) from 98, Bonnie Hammer changed the genera from SciFi and action based genera to touchy feely to pull in more female subscribers. Thats why the logo was changed from SciFi to SyFy to attract young women. Now its devolved into wresteling for the guys with bimbos in space and ghost blunders for the girls. The current President David Howe of SyFy(Oxygen Channel in Space) gave this general response to a question about the channel's programing: We don't need SciFi nerds anymore, we have teenage girls.....The new theme for SyFy movies - 98 pound girls rule All Men drool.
Even the Cartoon Network is devolving into crapola......But, if you want to spend extra you can then get dedicated channels to whatever floats your boat. Action, Manga, Horror, real SciFi......Just how bad do you want what you want? Did you ever think in the end your wife and your mother would finaly win the boob tube channel controller war by dominating the Networks executive positions to dictate everything available that you can watch? 999 channels of femmitiude but nothing on.....
And you wonder why Comcast and ATT are imposing data caps on your broadband contracts. Anyone know any good free anime/manga sites that don't make you subscribe to a viewer download for their movies....I'm really tired of that message you have to wait 76 minutes to get part 2.... :bolt:
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There's these things called books. They tend to be better researched then most of the TV shows, and the variety covering all sides of conflicts is rather amazing. I highly reccomend folks shutting off the TV and reading a few of those book things if they are interested in history :)
I about threw up when I saw the add for the show with Gunthar Rall. "Hitler's Greatest pilot!" Interestingly enough, much of the show I saw spent more time talking about Hub Zemke then it did Rall's experience.
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i dont think ive changed the channel in a week from the Military Channel...maybe even 2 weeks. I always watch it before i got to bed :banana:
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I about threw up when I saw the add for the show with Gunthar Rall. "Hitler's Greatest pilot!"
So he used to fly Hitler around?
Who was Hitler's greatest driver?
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An old friend of mine used to work at the NYC offices of A&E Network, and according to her the suits cared not one bit for accuracy and/or quality. Shows were slapped together from recycled documentary footage, with very little research or fact-checking. All they want to do is sell advertising space, and toward that end they will do anything to increase the size of their audience.
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...the suits cared not one bit for accuracy and/or quality... All they want to do is sell advertising space, and toward that end they will do anything to increase the size of their audience.
That is a private network and the suits will get fired if they did it any other way. Private television is not for education, not even entertainment - it is just for making money (or advancing a political agenda in some cases). The viewers are a resource to be harvested. It is not because they are evil, this is just the way things are set up. The "hidden hand" of capitalism needs to be there to click on the change channel button in order to change the investment in the shows.
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So he used to fly Hitler around?
Who was Hitler's greatest driver?
Feldwebel Schultz before transfer to Stalag 17 of course :aok
<S> Oz
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You don't like Ghost Hunters?! LOL
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You don't like Ghost Hunters?! LOL
The sudden interest across MULTIPLE networks in pseudo-science irritates me. MonsterQuest, Ghost Hunters, Ancient Aliens, etc. They present all of this as if it's hard science. There's NO contradictory or skeptical voices in the programming whatsoever. It's the worst sort of "journalism."
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Feldwebel Schultz before transfer to Stalag 17 of course :aok
<S> Oz
I thought he was an Oberfeldwebel?
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Hitler's personal pilot was a guy who's position allowed him to be quite separate from any of the rabid Nazi involvement other than saluting because he was expected to do nothing but be the best and most prepared pilot to ensure the safety of Hitler.
Dr. Porsche (a relatively anti-nazi person) thought very highly of him............there is mention in his book "we at porsche".
Another cool thing that the engineer Dr. Porsche mentioned that seems to not be included in most books is that a couple of russian tanks had forged front armor heated and pressed into shape by the worlds largest rolling mill......which was bought from germany shortly before the war.
The germans were unhappy with thier front armor and had Dr. Porsche study captured tanks from different countries and Dr. Porsche and son Ferry Porsche's information on the armor was not well received as well as Ferry walking in on a dyno test of the T34 powerplant.
It seems Ferry porsche (then pretty young) was sent by his father to see why the t34 powerplant they were testing had such low power output on the dyno yet made the T34 so fast.
While the engine ran and the engineers laughed about the "primitive powerplant", Porsche walked up and undid the governor and power output shot up greatly.........engineers were not amused and everybody present felt the war a little less winnable after that.