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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Silent6 on April 15, 2011, 08:29:43 PM
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Ok just flying around in the MA in the 262 and there seemed to be quite a few flaws and bugs while in it. Im not sure how to post the video but I shot two targets one flown by jdod on the deck and the other by oboe airborne that weren't awarded to me..... Also I killed two right before I was killed by spatXII in what looks like a ho. The thing that pisses me off is that I never even saw where I was shot from till I reviewed the film. I was even more pissed when I saw he was practically HO with me and I never saw him in my sights. I will post a video for everyones review and you will see I wasnt given credit for a shot on JDOD while he was on the deck and OBOE in a p39. I already know what everyone is going to say about the HO hit from spat. I would have seen him for sure and there is no way I woulda let someone HO me like that.
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So naturally the problem is with the cartoon 262 and not.....?
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The Force is not strong with this one :lol
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The whine has been filed.
note: there is nothing wrong with HOing a 262
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The whine has been filed.
note: there is nothing wrong with HOing a 262
Thats not true.
if you HO a 262, 8/10 times that 262 is going to be able to outgun you :noid
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Thats not true.
if you HO a 262, 8/10 times that 262 is going to be able to outgun you :noid
I don't remember ever loosing a HO to a 262 and if I see one I will HO it (even in a C-47 :bolt:). That is the best way to kill them because usually you can't catch them.
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I don't remember ever loosing a HO to a 262 and if I see one I will HO it (even in a C-47 :bolt:). That is the best way to kill them because usually you can't catch them.
LMAO. imagine the whining that would come from a 262 owner who just got collision-killed by a c47. :rofl!
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As for that other thing.... Who is to say both of those non-awarded pilots had pilot wounds or the killing pilot shot the stink out of them, and all you might have done is add a couple more damage points... Enough to knock a wing off? Many things can be the cause of awarded kills! :salute
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Still waiting on film.
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LMAO. imagine the whining that would come from a 262 owner who just got collision-killed by a c47. :rofl!
A few years back I compressed a diving 262 and crashed into a landing lancaster.
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A few years back I compressed a diving 262 and crashed into a landing lancaster.
any film of said epicness? wanna watch it for some lol's.
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Silent...
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...facepalm
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any film of said epicness? wanna watch it for some lol's.
It was a few years back, if I even recorded it I don't have it saved on this computer. It would take me some time to find it.
Perhaps we can just ask someone to recreate it for us in the MA...
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note: there is nothing wrong with HOing a 262
well......hehe, its not the "smartest" move in the book ;)
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Ok just flying around in the MA in the 262 and there seemed to be quite a few flaws and bugs while in it. Im not sure how to post the video but I shot two targets one flown by jdod on the deck and the other by oboe airborne that weren't awarded to me..... Also I killed two right before I was killed by spatXII in what looks like a ho. The thing that pisses me off is that I never even saw where I was shot from till I reviewed the film. I was even more pissed when I saw he was practically HO with me and I never saw him in my sights. I will post a video for everyones review and you will see I wasnt given credit for a shot on JDOD while he was on the deck and OBOE in a p39. I already know what everyone is going to say about the HO hit from spat. I would have seen him for sure and there is no way I woulda let someone HO me like that.
Wow ... now there is some strong evidence that the 262 is bug/flaw ridden for sure.
HT !!!! ... jump right on this please.
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Ok just flying around in the MA in the 262 and there seemed to be quite a few flaws and bugs while in it. Im not sure how to post the video but I shot two targets one flown by jdod on the deck and the other by oboe airborne that weren't awarded to me..... Also I killed two right before I was killed by spatXII in what looks like a ho. The thing that pisses me off is that I never even saw where I was shot from till I reviewed the film. I was even more pissed when I saw he was practically HO with me and I never saw him in my sights. I will post a video for everyones review and you will see I wasnt given credit for a shot on JDOD while he was on the deck and OBOE in a p39. I already know what everyone is going to say about the HO hit from spat. I would have seen him for sure and there is no way I woulda let someone HO me like that.
Another in a myriad of "run to the BBS"- knee jerk reactions rather than simply present the argument with hard evidence to the makers.
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Between threads like this one, and the purse fight going on between the children in the "I lied" thread I keep tinking it's time to close out the BBS and move on. Only problem is, it's where I get the ideas for my cartoons :( I guess I must wallow through the crap to continue to look for a gem
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Silent, check this site out:
http://www.biology4kids.com/files/studies_scimethod.html
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So if I accidently flew into the Gunner Sites of a B24 and get Killed while flying in a 262 is that considered a Bug? Not sure I just had very bad SA that night and thought I was coming into the side of the formation and not on his 6 Oh well lesson learned and he got some good perks for that kill and my squaddie got the credit for one of his drones i Flamed before dying
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A few years back I compressed a diving 262 and crashed into a landing lancaster.
Reminds me of the 'never again in a million years' flight in SVGA Air Warrior, back when you closed a field by dropping 12 bombs on the runway, and I was tooling along at 30k feet in a B17, had dropped on, IIRC, A70 and was turning for home when I started seeing "A kill has been recorded." marching up the chat window; apparently a squad had popped up on the runway to run a mission right before my bombs hit, and I got something like half the group as kills. I kept chuckling all the way back to landing every time I thought of how the pilots must have felt, clicking 'fly', popping up on the runway, then *boom* they're back in the ready room, with no one visible around the field, and the field's closed; my B-17 and my two escorts were the only planes in the sector (not for long; we had a goon circling ready to zip in and take it).
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You can only unlock the SpatXII after successfully vulching 100 people on the runway and shooting 5 chutes. Dot command is .showspatxii. It comes with a cloak.
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That's a pretty famous mass kill shiva....congrats.
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Do me a favor grizz keep your comments to yourself. you act like an idiot.http://www.mediafire.com/?f4gj56vlrphi7fa (http://www.mediafire.com/?f4gj56vlrphi7fa) heres the video and yea its true there are flaws or It just happened to be that I was on while there was problems with the server or whatever.
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My money's on whatever.
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Watched the whole film. Didn't see anything that would lead anyone to believe that there is something wrong with the 262. Your connection on the other hand may be the cause for not registering the vulch on the port dock and the disappearing P-39.
As far as what killed you. You were so target fixated on the one Spit that you completely missed the other Spit diving HO on you and raking you from stem to stern.
Again, nothing wrong with the 262.
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Do me a favor grizz keep your comments to yourself. you act like an idiot.http://www.mediafire.com/?f4gj56vlrphi7fa (http://www.mediafire.com/?f4gj56vlrphi7fa) heres the video and yea its true there are flaws or It just happened to be that I was on while there was problems with the server or whatever.
Sorry, I was just trying to get to the root of the problem and help out.
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Thats not true.
if you HO a 262, 8/10 times that 262 is going to be able to outgun you :noid
Every time I have HOed an Me262, and I will do it every chance I get as I despise the things, I have tied or won the contest.
You just have to fly the right airplane. :devil
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Watched the film. It wasn't an HO. It was a high deflection shot from above and ahead of you. The Spit IX did nothing improper other than possibly using the Spit VIII as bait. You fixated on the Spit VIII and assumed your speed would protect you from any aggressor, then you paid for it.
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Do me a favor grizz keep your comments to yourself. you act like an idiot.http://www.mediafire.com/?f4gj56vlrphi7fa (http://www.mediafire.com/?f4gj56vlrphi7fa) heres the video and yea its true there are flaws or It just happened to be that I was on while there was problems with the server or whatever.
Yeah Grizz! You big meanie!
Go shoot a jeep or something! :)
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I agree.. the 262 IS bugged.. at the very least I think it needs 4 more 30mms and an extra 100mph top speed.. k, thx.
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Every time I have HOed an Me262, and I will do it every chance I get as I despise the things, I have tied or won the contest.
You just have to fly the right airplane. :devil
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Watched the film. It wasn't an HO. It was a high deflection shot from above and ahead of you. The Spit IX did nothing improper other than possibly using the Spit VIII as bait. You fixated on the Spit VIII and assumed your speed would protect you from any aggressor, then you paid for it.
i HOed a 262 witha P-39 D and got him today
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I agree.. the 262 IS bugged.. at the very least I think it needs 4 more 30mms and an extra 100mph top speed.. k, thx.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s58/tapakeg/birds/me262A-1aU1_photo4_800x.jpg)
Me 262A-1a /U1
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Yeah Grizz! You big meanie!
Go shoot a jeep or something! :)
Ah man, I haven't found a jeep to shoot since that glorious day we reflect upon so fondly. One day I hope to find another, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. :(
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With the poorly modeled 262 you'd probably auger or the cannon rounds would not work as they are supposed to anyway :)
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With the poorly modeled 262 you'd probably auger or the cannon rounds would not work as they are supposed to anyway :)
Ah man just the other day I found this purty jeep to shoot. I turned around to get to him, and was completely locked in. Then all of a sudden I got HO'd by some plane I NEVER saw. I mean cmon what's up with the 262 anyways? How bugged is it, i mean REALLY? Well, after watching the film I realized that it was some spit I never saw that killed me but there's still something going on with the server or whatever.
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<bows to the master>
You did film it right? :)
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<bows to the master>
You did film it right? :)
Of course not!
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<bows to the master>
You did film it right? :)
We all now the film viewer is bugged as well, it never shows what I have seen in combat... :noid :devil
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Ah man just the other day I found this purty jeep to shoot. I turned around to get to him, and was completely locked in. Then all of a sudden I got HO'd by some plane I NEVER saw. I mean cmon what's up with the 262 anyways? How bugged is it, i mean REALLY? Well, after watching the film I realized that it was some spit I never saw that killed me but there's still something going on with the server or whatever.
Just proves once again you have no class... I simply posted here to ask why the two planes I killed never registered as kills. Are you people telling me that you dont see this on the film? Also I said it once I didnt have a visual of that spit anywhere and I was looking all around my cockpit. I guess I am just wasting my time here asking questions about this, There may be no flaws with the deuce but I just sucks that when I fly it things like this gotta happen. Its too bad that I cant bring something up without all you immature dicks posting worthless jabs. I am done with this thread since nobody here will acknowledge the fact that there was two unrecorded kills that bears evidence that something was wrong that night. Oh well its just a game right? <S>
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The squeak is strong in this thread.
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Just proves once again you have no class... I simply posted here to ask why the two planes I killed never registered as kills. Are you people telling me that you dont see this on the film? Also I said it once I didnt have a visual of that spit anywhere and I was looking all around my cockpit. I guess I am just wasting my time here asking questions about this, There may be no flaws with the deuce but I just sucks that when I fly it things like this gotta happen. Its too bad that I cant bring something up without all you immature ******* posting worthless jabs. I am done with this thread since nobody here will acknowledge the fact that there was two unrecorded kills that bears evidence that something was wrong that night. Oh well its just a game right? <S>
Good lord, I just watched the film and saw absolutely nothing that was out of the ordinary.
1) F4U that was ditched on the port deck.
The reason you got no kill credit on it is because it was missing half its fuselage and another player had already shot it. *You cannot do damage to a plane that is already critically wounded*
2) The P39 that you "killed"
He disco'd and someone had already shot him and got credit. You never hit him, he vanished before your bullets go to him. If you watch the film you will see that he vanishes off the plane info page.
3) Death
You got shot by a spit.
Sorry but there was zero bugs in this sortie. I will send u a bill for my wasted time.
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... but I just sucks ...
:headscratch:
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Gotta wonder why some of em even play the game sometimes :)
Think I'll design my own that does everything for the player and then congratulates the player for having done such a good job :aok
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I viewed the film...many times.
You got 3 kills. The first early on. The nik at the end and the spit you ho'ed.
As for the ho situation....well that didn't go to well for you. The high spit was easily visible..they were together. Not sure how couldn see him.
First rule in flying a jet is NEVER go ho with any plane...just roll out and come back for an easier shot. Everyone will attempt to ho a jet..that is standard ops in AH.
Anyway here are some screen shots.
First...I just love this shot..its so pretty.
(http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/262_ho_1.jpg)
The high spit racked you and hit your fuel. The film shows it as a miss but that is just lag...you were close to both and going 400+ ...sometimes you take a hit and a second later take damage.
(http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/262_ho_2.jpg)
Then 2 sec later you ho the spit. This shows the moment of explosion...you probably ran into his parts as well. Its hard to say if the high spit scored the hit or if you took damage from the explosion...but one of those two things happend. You get racked then fly through the explosion...due to lag its hard to tell which one killed you but I bet the high spit put rounds into your plane. I am sure the spit was firing at you...he had tracers off..you prob took the hit before he exploded.
(http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/262_ho_3.jpg)
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I've got no ax to grind so my observations were: The f4 was going down already missing parts as you shot, the 39 probably discoed and the Spit9 hit you. Truth be told, I don't see any flaws...and though I rarely HO, against a 262 I would do it every chance I got.
EDIT: Wow Ag, that sure is beautiful! Nice work. :salute
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If you go into the default position during the film, you'll have a hard time seeing that second spitfire until he was pretty much on top of him, plane and icon was blocked completely by frame. No bug, just poor SA.
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(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s58/tapakeg/birds/me262A-1aU1_photo4_800x.jpg)
Me 262A-1a /U1
This is terrifying
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I agree.. the 262 IS bugged.. at the very least I think it needs 4 more 30mms and an extra 100mph top speed.. k, thx.
I don't know about "bugged" but I did have a different sound-pack downloaded. Every time my 262 either used flaps or got to a higher speed (different sounds) the game would freeze for about 20-30 seconds then crash to desk top. I'd go back in and find my fighter perkies over 200 or so lighter.
I mentioned it on the forums and was told that some user designed sound packs would do that to a 262. I immediately deleted the game and re-downloaded it using the old sounds. It never happened again.
Coincidence, fact, myth, who knows. I am not qualified to say, that is for sure.
Just sayin.
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Gotta agree with the posted observations posted here. I watched the film with the recorded views. The second spit is mostly blocked from sight by the canopy frame work as it closes on you. Its icon becomes slightly visible for a couple of seconds before he shoots, but is not visible enough to show his range and therefore no indication he is rapidly closing. Some folks would say you should have checked the other icon as soon as it became visible. While this is true if your only goal is to survive, realistically, most of us would have played the odds like you did and saty on your target and shoot. Just bad luck on the way the two spits were aligned and converged like that, but no bug.
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Ah man just the other day I found this purty jeep to shoot. I turned around to get to him, and was completely locked in. Then all of a sudden I got HO'd by some plane I NEVER saw. I mean cmon what's up with the 262 anyways? How bugged is it, i mean REALLY? Well, after watching the film I realized that it was some spit I never saw that killed me but there's still something going on with the server or whatever.
I see the smoke! its bugged fer sure.. had it been 100mph faster that picker/dweeb spit wouldn't have been able to game the game and sneak up on you like that..
fix the bugs plz!
:bolt:
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I viewed the film...many times.
You got 3 kills. The first early on. The nik at the end and the spit you ho'ed.
As for the ho situation....well that didn't go to well for you. The high spit was easily visible..they were together. Not sure how couldn see him.
First rule in flying a jet is NEVER go ho with any plane...just roll out and come back for an easier shot. Everyone will attempt to ho a jet..that is standard ops in AH.
Anyway here are some screen shots.
First...I just love this shot..its so pretty.
(http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/262_ho_1.jpg)
The high spit racked you and hit your fuel. The film shows it as a miss but that is just lag...you were close to both and going 400+ ...sometimes you take a hit and a second later take damage.
(http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/262_ho_2.jpg)
Then 2 sec later you ho the spit. This shows the moment of explosion...you probably ran into his parts as well. Its hard to say if the high spit scored the hit or if you took damage from the explosion...but one of those two things happend. You get racked then fly through the explosion...due to lag its hard to tell which one killed you but I bet the high spit put rounds into your plane. I am sure the spit was firing at you...he had tracers off..you prob took the hit before he exploded.
(http://dasmuppets.com/public/agent360/262_ho_3.jpg)
If you look you will see that I never hoed anyone... that spit 8 was a six shot. Anyways like you all said poor sa. The high spit was in a blind spot and he nailed me good. But if you look at the screen my last kill was from the six o'clock.
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If you look you will see that I never hoed anyone... that spit 8 was a six shot. Anyways like you all said poor sa. The high spit was in a blind spot and he nailed me good. But if you look at the screen my last kill was from the six o'clock.
So ... does this now mean that the 262 is not BUGGED ?
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Silent, I'm sorry for being a butthead, but your original post was just pure whine, no substance or fact, which is why it is not very surprising that there is no bug even after multiple people wasted their time to watch the 20 minute film looking for one.
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If you look you will see that I never hoed anyone... that spit 8 was a six shot. Anyways like you all said poor sa. The high spit was in a blind spot and he nailed me good. But if you look at the screen my last kill was from the six o'clock.
Your absolutly right. I looked at it again.
That solves it...it was the top spit that got the hit. :salute