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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Donpost on April 16, 2011, 06:12:51 AM
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To capture a field you have to get 10 drunks to the map room, correct? Do you have to destroy all the town buildings first? What about fields without towns like vehicle places? Finally, is there any way to find out if a town has been destroyed?
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to capture an airfield you need to kill all 8 ack guns in town and enough buildings to raise the white flag. The flag can be white with ack guns up, in this instance your troops will not run. All town buildings stay destroyed for 45mins. Auto ack stays down for 45 mins also.
I believe current damage level is 75% buildings destroyed but I can't seem to find the readme from the last change to confirm that. HTC may increase or lower this % in the future.
As for vehicle bases and ports, yes you need all auto acks destroyed. It makes sense to kill the Vehicle hangars so enemy cannot spawn in. There are 4 VH's on a V base and 1 VH on a port. Ports and vbases have varying amounts of manned and 17lbr anti-tank guns these stay down for only 15 minutes when destroyed. You can still capture with these up but if someone is manning them they could shoot a troop.
The best way to check a town is to get a plane to fly over to check the ack guns are all dead. You can see whether the flag is white from the ground.
Yes all 3 require 10 un-injured troops to enter the map room.
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To capture a base, 10 friendly troops have to go into the enemy maproom. However, certain prerequisites have to be met before those troops are going in:
Airfield:
The maproom is located not on the field, but in the nearby town. 75% of the buildings have to be destroyed (indicated by flag turning white) and ALL anti aircraft guns in town. On very few maps the town is very close to the airfield, in this case some of the AA guns on the field have to be destroyed too, else they might shoot & kill your troops in the town.
Downtime for buildings and AA guns is 45 minutes. There is no way to confirm town status from the map, you have to do visual recon on town.
Vehicle Field and Port:
These bases do not have towns, the maproom is located on the base itself. The automatic AA guns on the base have to be destroyed before bringing troops in. Technically, it's not required to eliminate manned AA and AT guns, but highly recommended. (downtime for manned guns: 15 minutes). Killing vehicle hangars is a good idea too.
Additional notes:
- Very rarely a base has a shore battery that can target the maproom too. Check it before watching your LVT, M3 or C47 die to a surprise 8" shell.
- Friendly troops do not "reset" a maproom
- Troops are acting like "ordnance" for game purposes: If you are getting killed after dropping them, they will continue to run to the maproom. If you reup while they are still running, they will simply vanish.
Additional additional note: I'm too slow this morning :uhoh
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The link to the Help section of the HTC site seems to be broken. Once that's fixed, you'll find a wealth of information to answer most of your questions, Donpost.
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Wow quick replies!
Rolex - I managed to get into the help section through the FAQ. On the gameplay page it says:
"All buildings in the town must be destroyed before attempting to capture the field. Destroyed town buildings will stay down for approximately 45 minutes (this variable can be adjusted), during which time 10 troops must be delivered to the map room via one of the troop carriers to capture the field. After the tenth troop safely makes it into the map room, a system message will appear in the message buffer announcing the captured field number and the capturing country. "
Which doesn't agree with what the others said :(
This white flag, is it literally a flag flown in the town? You can only see if its up by seeing it with your own eyes or asking someone nearby?
Thanks all for the responses by the way :salute
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Rolex - I managed to get into the help section through the FAQ. On the gameplay page it says:
"All buildings in the town must be destroyed before attempting to capture the field. [...]
Which doesn't agree with what the others said :(
This white flag, is it literally a flag flown in the town? You can only see if its up by seeing it with your own eyes or asking someone nearby?
That info is outdated, the % of buildings required had been changed a few months ago, first to 50% and more recently to 75%.
And yes, there is literally a huge flag in town, right next to the maproom.
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7154/flagsl.jpg)
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the conditions to capture an AF were recently changed. the page you sited apparently hasn't been updated.
there is a flagpole by the map room in town w/ a flag that changes to white when the required number of bldgs have been destroyed.
nearby players can relay the info about the town status, or you may be able to see the flag from your plane or GV.
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Thanks for clearing that all up for me guys. Really impressed how keen you are to help :aok
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If the town is down by 50% (not white flag) does it take 45 minutes for the buildings to come back up?
How far can the troops run? can you drop them outside of town? (not sure why you'd want to but curious.)
If you strafe the map room does it kill the troops inside? What about bombing it?
If you go into the maproom after bailing out will you see the troops inside? You can shoot them on their way in, can you shoot them once they are inside?
Does carpet bombing with troops work?
Thanks All.
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If the town is down by 50% (not white flag) does it take 45 minutes for the buildings to come back up? Each building has it's own timer, and it's 45 minutes
How far can the troops run? can you drop them outside of town? (not sure why you'd want to but curious.) Sorry, have never tested the exact distance. With the size the new towns have nowadays, I'm not entirely sure if you can drop 'em outside town. But you can test this in offline mode
If you strafe the map room does it kill the troops inside? What about bombing it? Yes and no. Once inside the map room, the troops will run to a certain point in it, then vanish (but are still "there" for capture purposes). Until they vanish, strafing can kill them. Bombs never hurt troops at all.
If you go into the maproom after bailing out will you see the troops inside? You can shoot them on their way in, can you shoot them once they are inside? You will see them running until they reach there target point inside the maproom. As long you can see them, you can shoot them with your .45
Does carpet bombing with troops work? Not sure what you mean by that. As writen earlier, 10 troops have to reach the maproom. How many troops one side will drop to accomplish that is not important, just getting 10 troops in while the requirements mentioned earlier are met.
Thanks All.
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I think you already answered the last question, Lusche. Bombs do not kill troops.
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I think you already answered the last question, Lusche. Bombs do not kill troops.
are you 100% sure about that rolex? I mean just the other day I watched an LA7 pickle his two small eggs and take out a whole column.
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If a bomb killed troops, then it would be a bug. If a gun is up, the troops will die, but you won't see any rounds. Maybe that's how they died or someone else was shooting them?
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maybe a gun popped that I couldn't see from the ground then and they disappeared.
Do they just vanish if that was the case?
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Yes, they do.
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Cool, I thought "friendly" bombs do not kill troops but "enemy" bombs, rockets and guns do kill them. Never too old to learn :) Glad I stopped in.
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Clarifying my last question Re: Carpet bombing with troops. I mean if you had 15 c47's dropping at the same time would their numbers overwhelm the attrition rate from the fire of 1 or 2 auto guns? It sounds like they don't actually get shot at but just disappear if the autogun is up, so the answer would be no you can't overwhelm with lots of troops. Is this correct?
Another question, once the troops disappear they are unkillable correct? Do they "get killed" when the town resets?
Yet another question or clarification. Is this correct: Bombing the town starts and the first building comes down at 1:00. Last building required to go white flag destroyed at 1:44. No more Bombing. Town will be back up at 1:46. Any troops in the maproom or on the way go poof. Is this right?
Thankyou
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1. Correct. You cannot overwhelm an ack gun with troops.
2. They no longer exist when they disappear. They are dead.
3. If the ack is down, but enough buildings have rebuilt to exceed the limit for capture (flag is no longer solid white), troops will still run and enter the map room. But, they will not capture the town. They disappear inside the map room.
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To add further:
-*EACH* town building is down for 45 minutes. In other words, if you take down the first building at 12:00 and you take down the last one at 12:40 then in five minutes the first buildings you destroyed will come back up. We call this getting it "out of sync". This applies to the ack as well.
-If a troop is released within range of ANY existing auto-ack then it will simply disappear instantly. There is no need for the auto ack to actually shoot that troop down.
-At a few bases the base is very close to the town and the map room is within range of some of the base's auto ack as well, so in these few cases some of the base ack will need to be destroyed also.
-At bases that do not have a town (Vehicle Bases and most Ports) the only requirement is to get the auto-ack down at that base and to get 10 troops into the map room near the center of those bases, however as said before, it's a good idea to get the hangars and manned ack guns down as well so they can't manually kill the troops.
-While auto-ack is down for 45 minutes, an enemy can drop base supplies into the town and/or base to bring the auto-ack up sooner (I believe each box of supplies take 15 minutes off of that time). This includes the ack in the town! Even though it doesn't happen often, it will throw a wrench in the works when it does happen.
-Ground troop transports (M3, Jeep, LVT and that one with the rockets whose name escapes me right now) have to be completely stopped before letting the troops out, otherwise they will die. C47's have to be landed on the gear and completely stopped, -OR- flying at above 800 feet above ground level when troops are dropped, otherwise those troops will die too. (Yes I know it's possible to be moving slowly and for the troops to survive but we won't get into that right now)
-It is possible for the enemy to eject out of an airplane and land in the town in the parachute. Then they can kill troops with their pistol as they enter the maproom. If you've heard people yell "strafe the maproom" this is done as a preventative to kill any 'chutes' that may be hiding inside. 99.9% of the time this isn't a problem, but it's one of those "better safe than sorry" deals.