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Title: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on April 22, 2011, 05:13:15 PM
The Jug's Tail... because its better if you point it AWAY from your ennemies  :cool:

So... you want tail slides? You want flat stalls? You want to know what a brick with wings can do? There you have it  :D
Here it is for your own enjoyment:
The Jug's Tail (http://youtu.be/SX73JT3o4GM?hd=1)

So, its all about the tail slides and wierd moves in this one so don't expect kills from all of them, its all about the moves. No major innovation from my previous video Hunt or Prey (found here (http://youtu.be/x3HPaXGUDrM?hd=1)) visually though.

Thanks for watching!
 :salute
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: StokesAk on April 22, 2011, 05:56:13 PM
You defy gravity great video!
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: gpwurzel on April 22, 2011, 06:12:45 PM
Cracking movie, had me giggling with the cv landing at the end, bouncing around on the deck lol....

Nice work

Wurzel
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: mbailey on April 22, 2011, 06:13:59 PM
Cracking movie, had me giggling with the cv landing at the end, bouncing around on the deck lol....

Nice work

Wurzel

Definatly, the light hearted ending was the best!! :aok
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Krusty on April 22, 2011, 07:02:05 PM
Frankly, I worry about the fidelity of the AH flight model after seeing that.

Edit: the only thing I can think of to explain it is you're fighting with a 100mph updraft the entire time
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on April 22, 2011, 07:15:44 PM
Frankly, I worry about the fidelity of the AH flight model after seeing that.

Edit: the only thing I can think of to explain it is you're fighting with a 100mph updraft the entire time
Well, if Hitech ever decides to tamper with the flight model(very unlikely as I do find it realistic) to make it more accurate, then I will BEG them not to touch my trusty Jug  :P
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: LCADolby on April 22, 2011, 07:39:29 PM
Great Vid
 :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
5 thumbs up  :D
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: ink on April 22, 2011, 07:44:13 PM
first let me say...one of the best looking films I ever saw...if not the best

I also want to say I have never seen flying like that in AH...at 1:35.... :headscratch:

the whole thing makes me think you are in a small aerobatic plane.....

edit

Ive had to re-watch it....damn now I wanna see that stuff a fight.
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Plazus on April 22, 2011, 08:30:35 PM
Makes me want to fly a P47.

Good video. :aok
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: MickDono on April 22, 2011, 10:18:46 PM
Bloody awesome!!
 :salute
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Wolfala on April 22, 2011, 10:51:54 PM
I need to ask this. Can you post one of your videos with this tail move? How do you get such incredibly high alpha while so slow?
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on April 22, 2011, 11:32:21 PM
I need to ask this. Can you post one of your videos with this tail move? How do you get such incredibly high alpha while so slow?
I posted a bunch of flims about it (Most of its content has been used for the making of this video) and they can be found on this tread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307966.msg3976107.html#msg3976107 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307966.msg3976107.html#msg3976107)
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: oakranger on April 23, 2011, 12:19:51 AM
How the bloody hell can you make those kind of moves in the jug?!?!  I been trying and can not figure out how you do it.   :furious
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: guncrasher on April 23, 2011, 12:50:02 AM
nice moves. awesome video.

semp
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: 007Rusty on April 23, 2011, 12:52:37 AM
 :aok  wow   :joystick:
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: MarineUS on April 23, 2011, 01:06:04 AM
this is absolutely epic...I would pay you to teach me how to do that....Absolutely amazing.
Again: (http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx147/MarineUS/Smileys/KingSmiley.gif)
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: cactuskooler on April 23, 2011, 02:00:54 AM
Great!!
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Kazan_HB on April 23, 2011, 03:04:53 AM
It's already your second film. Our list of my favorites.
Thank you for the inspiration, now I fly P47M.
A wonderful bird
<S>

Marek
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: JUGgler on April 23, 2011, 03:29:42 AM
How the bloody hell can you make those kind of moves in the jug?!?!  I been trying and can not figure out how you do it.   :furious

It is all about using the plane past "stall"

The "stall" is not a boundary to be feared, it is to be embraced  :aok



JUGgler
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Chilli on April 23, 2011, 03:55:54 AM
Absolutely a fun and AH-educational film to watch.  I can't tell you how many times I watched it right away, back to back.  Amazing  :rock  :joystick:

Now I am off to read what you posted in that explanatory thread.   :D That brick looked as if it had jet thrusters on it  :rofl

Lepape2 you are too good at this.... we're not worthy.

Please get with Rolex or FLS and crew and do a Training Arena session on this.  Solid AH-GOLD.
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Debrody on April 23, 2011, 05:51:32 AM
What the HECK, you wizard!
awsome
 :salute
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Kazan_HB on April 23, 2011, 06:47:58 AM
What the HECK, you wizard!
awsome
 :salute

Jug has a magic flaps
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Max on April 23, 2011, 08:56:45 AM
Only watched it once but what I'm seeing is instant full flaps, assumable chop of throttle, hard kick of rudder, instant flap retraction and zoom climb. Yes, no?

Where in the heck is the E coming from for the zoom climb?

 :O
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on April 23, 2011, 09:23:51 AM
I make it a practice to dedicate my self to several flight sims IL2, rise of flight, wings of prey,A10 war hog,.. One thing I have found is that they all have there pros and cons in regard to flight modeling.. Its a SIM its not real and developers can only get CLOSE..

The one observation That I have made though is that AH with out question has IMO the best flight model out of every Sim I fly.. That said the flight models are still fantastic in the Sims I mention and they offer different features and game play that AH doesn't. Its easy to nit pick but If you diversify your flight Sim experience around more that one Sim you will come to truly appreciate The quality AH delivers in regard to flight modeling...

Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: guttboy on April 23, 2011, 10:16:32 AM
Brilliant~~ :aok
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on April 23, 2011, 11:07:32 AM
Only watched it once but what I'm seeing is instant full flaps, assumable chop of throttle, hard kick of rudder, instant flap retraction and zoom climb. Yes, no?

Where in the heck is the E coming from for the zoom climb?

 :O
You got your answers there:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307966.msg3974391.html#msg3974391 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307966.msg3974391.html#msg3974391)

Use of flaps purely depends on what state of E and turn rate you want to end up on the way down for saddling up on the ennemy or extending away. Chopping throttle is only usefull for steady controled hammerheads (the very first image in the video has very carefull use of it) or avoid possible spins. Having max throttle helps in this case because it keeps RPM maxed out and thus gyroscopic precession maxed out. To zoom climb in a Jug, you need roughly 150mph and flaps. The tail slide is a bonus to reverse faster, burn excess E and point your nose at the ennemy.
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on April 23, 2011, 11:21:44 AM
It is all about using the plane past "stall"

The "stall" is not a boundary to be feared, it is to be embraced  :aok

JUGgler
Hey JUGler, is it okay if I try a bit too much to induce players into trying the dark side of the force?  :angel:
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: M0nkey_Man on April 23, 2011, 11:41:30 AM
i can do some of this stuff in a 109 :aok
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: LCADolby on April 23, 2011, 01:43:08 PM
Hey JUGler, is it okay if I try a bit too much to induce players into trying the dark side of the force?  :angel:
Sith?!........  :bolt:
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Lonmower on April 23, 2011, 02:57:32 PM
AWSOME pape :O . I love the credit shots of crashing on the CV  :rofl :rofl :rofl  :x :cheers:
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: grizz441 on April 23, 2011, 03:06:41 PM
Great job LePape.  :aok
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Volron on April 23, 2011, 03:26:16 PM
Oh boy, I can only imagine the PM's you get when you do something like that and grease em. :rofl

Awesome moves!  That CLOSE call with that 110, holy cow.:O
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: JUGgler on April 23, 2011, 04:19:04 PM
Hey JUGler, is it okay if I try a bit too much to induce players into trying the dark side of the force?  :angel:


 :rofl All are welcome  :aok

Maybe we can have a JUG prom  :x



JUGgler
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Chilli on April 23, 2011, 05:01:42 PM
Would you ever consider a clinic in the Training Arena with some of us "Brick" pilots?  You sir, may have just hit on the one thing, that will have me signing up to HTC for a 6 mos. subscription, no questions asked.  I can imagine it would take at least that long just to even understand more than a handful of shots that your film shows.   :pray

Absolutely a fun and AH-educational film to watch.  I can't tell you how many times I watched it right away, back to back.  Amazing  :rock  :joystick:

Now I am off to read what you posted in that explanatory thread.   :D That brick looked as if it had jet thrusters on it  :rofl

Lepape2 you are too good at this.... we're not worthy.

Please get with Rolex or FLS and crew and do a Training Arena session on this.  Solid AH-GOLD.
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: B4Buster on April 24, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: steely07 on April 25, 2011, 02:35:20 AM
wow, talk about knowing your ride, Salute Sir!

how close was that 110!

Steely
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Tinribs on April 25, 2011, 03:44:23 AM
Ive got more chance of achieving these moves with my Mrs`s jugs than the AH2 model (they are wildly maneuverable with a very low c of g these days)so Im off to practice,if she lets me of course. :bolt:
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: grizz441 on April 25, 2011, 12:29:50 PM
Maybe we can have a JUG prom  :x
JUGgler

On a related note, this video is jug pron.
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: bj229r on April 27, 2011, 01:12:38 PM
Finally sat down and watched it, frikkin awesome :aok (that was all M's?)
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on April 27, 2011, 03:39:05 PM
Finally sat down and watched it, frikkin awesome :aok (that was all M's?)
All models are present in this video
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: ink on April 27, 2011, 05:20:47 PM
funny every time I see a Jug I am hoping its you Lepape :D
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: mechanic on April 29, 2011, 08:37:44 PM
This type of flying in P47s dates back as far as folks like Yucca, Nomde, ManeTMP. Never before seen it showcased in movies so well as this though. To those who can't understand the flight model, I suggest you fly around offline a bit and just throw your plane into some stalls and spins for a while and see what you can do.

LePape has mastered the art better than anyone I've ever seen. Just incredible volume of footage.

What really amazes me the most is your AHF camera work. I would just love to see a tutorial on your camera work.

Most excelent film making and flying. Bravo, Sir!
S!
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: SlipKnt on April 29, 2011, 09:41:36 PM
AMAZING!!!
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Volron on April 30, 2011, 07:18:55 PM
funny every time I see a Jug I am hoping its you Lepape :D

You are not the only one. :lol  But unlike you, I'd be greased in 10 seconds flat :ahand, and that's being wishful on my part. :joystick:  Would be awesome to see though in "real time" though. :aok
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: ink on April 30, 2011, 07:23:14 PM
You are not the only one. :lol  But unlike you, I'd be greased in 10 seconds flat :ahand, and that's being wishful on my part. :joystick:  Would be awesome to see though in "real time" though. :aok


 :lol
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: MaSonZ on April 30, 2011, 09:35:10 PM
Please do teach me? if  Ican learn it in a Jug i must be able to do it in an F4U or an Fm2....













 :noid I'll just fly the jug if i cant do it in my normal birds.
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: bozon on May 03, 2011, 02:44:04 AM
that is one incredible video  :O

The ending tops it all - in the last shot the jug is like a whale jumping out of the water onto the carrier deck  :lol
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: IrishOne on May 03, 2011, 03:25:07 AM
i got to see some of these moves firsthand in BoG.  :aok    good stuff Lepape2  :salute
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: 321BAR on May 03, 2011, 07:05:34 AM

 :rofl All are welcome  :aok

Maybe we can have a JUG prom  :x



JUGgler
JUG, you should try this move with a low speed lala sometime :aok not as smooth to control but incredibly fun to see a 190 duck underneath while u shot him up
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: MotleyCH on May 03, 2011, 06:21:11 PM
That's an incredible video..amazing flying, too :rock
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: hgtonyvi on May 04, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
thats a great video. Little more practice nd ur pings can become kill shots. <S. !!
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: crazierthanu on May 04, 2011, 09:16:52 PM
Absoloutly incredible video. I've been very inspired to fly the jug as of late. Good going, my Pj is getting jealous.  :P

Does anyone have any detailed information on these maneuvers? I can't find any relating to AH, and my search function is giving me trouble.  :(
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: ink on May 04, 2011, 09:38:11 PM
Absoloutly incredible video. I've been very inspired to fly the jug as of late. Good going, my Pj is getting jealous.  :P

Does anyone have any detailed information on these maneuvers? I can't find any relating to AH, and my search function is giving me trouble.  :(

no so much "maneuvers"   he is using the effects of stalling the plane.
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: crazierthanu on May 04, 2011, 10:20:58 PM
no so much "maneuvers"   he is using the effects of stalling the plane.

Nevermind, I found some things. Dont waste your time spoon-feeding me. :)
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on May 05, 2011, 03:41:43 AM
Nevermind, I found some things. Dont waste your time spoon-feeding me. :)
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,311572.msg4038210.html#msg4038210 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,311572.msg4038210.html#msg4038210)
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: RoGenT on May 05, 2011, 12:20:18 PM
Hub and I had a pretty decent fight in his 47-40 and my beloved 51. He sure was turning that fat girl awesome like. I was lucky to get him and when we were BSing with each other via PM. He said Lepape gave him some tips on the jug flying.

Pretty awesome tips I must say  :aok
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Beefcake on May 05, 2011, 03:03:49 PM
I wonder if I can pull this off in a B25, I mean it's fat and ugly so it should work.  :D
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: RoGenT on May 05, 2011, 03:48:41 PM
I wonder if I can pull this off in a B25, I mean it's fat and ugly so it should work.  :D


Being we both like to fly the B25: One of these days we should have a friendly B25 battle in the DA sometime  :salute
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: killb8 on May 06, 2011, 03:27:53 PM
Lepape I have been trying to emulate your moves since you released your first film. I have scored many kills that I wouldn't have before but I must confess that I am not even close to replicating some of your moves.  :joystick: :headscratch: :bhead My 11yr old son asked me for an account and a flightstick after watching your film "Hunt or Prey". Even my wife enjoys your films and she hates Aces High with a passion :x Frank Capra has nothing on you :salute


Heres one you inspired http://www.mediafire.com/?l2m55oi7c46ztlb
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: morfiend on May 07, 2011, 07:56:55 AM
wow, talk about knowing your ride, Salute Sir!

how close was that 110!

Steely

  Very close!! I was in the 110 and didnt know Pepe was filming or I would have shot back for effect.  Lepape spends plenty of time in the TA practicing his craft,learning stalls and recoveries are important and once mastered you see results like what Lepape can achive.

  Not only some great flying but some good film work too,keep up the good work Pepe!!! :aok




       :salute
Title: Re: The Jug's Tail - Another P47 Movie by Lepape2
Post by: Reaper90 on May 07, 2011, 03:31:50 PM
Still the best ending to any AH movie I've seen yet!  :aok  :salute