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Title: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: CrosFire on April 26, 2011, 07:00:48 PM
Can we pick the old one or the new set up. Because the new one is terrible.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: kvuo75 on April 26, 2011, 07:19:41 PM
terrible? or different than you're used to?

Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: CrosFire on April 26, 2011, 07:27:23 PM
Horrible, you cant make you mouse not move your turrent.       You cant tell speed you have to hope that your going max because "Shift W" for me hasnt worked half the time.
You cant stop without pressing buttons(instead of just pulling back on your joy stick). Its also new
 
 
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: fullmetalbullet on April 26, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
Horrible, you cant make you mouse not move your turrent.       You cant tell speed you have to hope that your going max because "Shift W" for me hasnt worked half the time.
You cant stop without pressing buttons(instead of just pulling back on your joy stick). Its also new
 
 

i think they shoulda done it the way red orchestra did with the tanks. a cotrolable throttle with the W and S keys and when you hold down the movement keys W and S while pressing A and D you can turn in place. the switch to gunner position by pressing the 2 key, also with the commanders position they should add binoculars so you can scan for targets a bit easier.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: MK-84 on April 26, 2011, 07:35:44 PM
Horrible, you cant make you mouse not move your turrent.       You cant tell speed you have to hope that your going max because "Shift W" for me hasnt worked half the time.
You cant stop without pressing buttons(instead of just pulling back on your joy stick). Its also new
 
 

You couldnt shift without pressing buttons before...

One wonders why pushing buttons is pushing your buttons
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: CrosFire on April 26, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
You couldn't shift without pressing buttons before...

I didn't care about button shifting because it was when i wanted to not auto. I said
You cant stop without pressing buttons(instead of just pulling back on your joy stick).
Like you could with the old set up.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: kvuo75 on April 26, 2011, 07:42:11 PM
I didn't care about button shifting because it was when i wanted to not auto. I said Like you could with the old set up.


see, I prefer hitting shift S or just E and stopping on a dime, not holding back a joystick for 4 seconds.

I do agree a speedometer would be handy.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: CrosFire on April 26, 2011, 07:48:06 PM

see, I prefer hitting shift S or just E and stopping on a dime, not holding back a joystick for 4 seconds.

I do agree a speedometer would be handy. /quote]

Diffrent people diffrent options. If they could have it optional old or new system ill still play.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: gyrene81 on April 26, 2011, 07:58:35 PM
also with the commanders position they should add binoculars so you can scan for targets a bit easier.
:rofl  sometimes you make it too easy bullethead...you want to take a wide angle field of view and severly limit it with binoculars?

i believe the zoom function is better...  ;)
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: fullmetalbullet on April 26, 2011, 09:59:08 PM
:rofl  sometimes you make it too easy bullethead...you want to take a wide angle field of view and severly limit it with binoculars?

i believe the zoom function is better...  ;)

adds more realism. i didnt know the old eyes could see further then bino's anyways. oh wait realism kills the game. nvm then.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: gyrene81 on April 26, 2011, 10:21:57 PM
adds more realism. i didnt know the old eyes could see further then bino's anyways. oh wait realism kills the game. nvm then.
adds more realism? since i know you have never been in a real moving tank under any conditions, let alone in the commanders seat, the commander does not drive around with binoculars up to his eyes...depending on the country, wwii tank commanders had 7x50, 8x30, 7x30 and i believe 6x30 binoculars...think it would be worth the "realism"?

if you want a limited field of view, you still have zoom view from the commander's position and using the bracket keys adjusts the zoom level.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: fullmetalbullet on April 26, 2011, 10:25:17 PM
adds more realism? since i know you have never been in a real moving tank under any conditions, let alone in the commanders seat, the commander does not drive around with binoculars up to his eyes...depending on the country, wwii tank commanders had 7x50, 8x30, 7x30 and i believe 6x30 binoculars...think it would be worth the "realism"?

if you want a limited field of view, you still have zoom view from the commander's position and using the bracket keys adjusts the zoom level.

wow there you go assuming things again. did i say i wanted limited fields of view no. i said maybe they should add binoculars for the commanders position.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: Karnak on April 26, 2011, 10:30:05 PM
Interiors of future vehicles will not be modeled.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 26, 2011, 11:37:20 PM
Horrible, you cant make you mouse not move your turrent.

How did you look around before the mouse view?
(hint, hint)



wrongway
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: CrosFire on April 27, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
How did you look around before the mouse view?
(hint, hint)wrongway

Well i 1st got the tank up the max speed jumped on pintle moved it outta the way and looked around in zoom view with the Numbers pad by combining the keys. Its FAR more EFFECTIVE than this system. \
If i saw a tank i either jumped in turret and fired on it or i jumped in drives seat pulled back on joystick for 2 seconds stopped the tank jumped in the turret aimed and fired now you must press buttons which is far slower for me than the old system.  Note the title people who want the new driving set up can have it. (i think its just a way to get out of modeling the interiors of the vehicles.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: kvuo75 on April 27, 2011, 08:43:32 AM
(i think its just a way to get out of modeling the interiors of the vehicles.


HTC said exactly that.. we should get new GV's more often with new system since they don't have to model an interior that barely anyone even uses to start with.

Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: VonMessa on April 27, 2011, 10:31:01 AM
wow there you go assuming things again. did i say i wanted limited fields of view no. i said maybe they should add binoculars for the commanders position.

Using binoculars limits one's field of vision
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: hitech on April 27, 2011, 10:42:52 AM
Well i 1st got the tank up the max speed jumped on pintle moved it outta the way and looked around in zoom view with the Numbers pad by combining the keys. Its FAR more EFFECTIVE than this system. \
If i saw a tank i either jumped in turret and fired on it or i jumped in drives seat pulled back on joystick for 2 seconds stopped the tank jumped in the turret aimed and fired now you must press buttons which is far slower for me than the old system.  Note the title people who want the new driving set up can have it. (i think its just a way to get out of modeling the interiors of the vehicles.

Except for the driver part you can do the exact same thing. Nothing is forcing you to use the mouse. I.E. View keys are still active as before.

HiTech
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: moot on April 27, 2011, 11:57:32 AM
Well i 1st got the tank up the max speed jumped on pintle moved it outta the way and looked around in zoom view with the Numbers pad by combining the keys. Its FAR more EFFECTIVE than this system. \
If i saw a tank i either jumped in turret and fired on it or i jumped in drives seat pulled back on joystick for 2 seconds stopped the tank jumped in the turret aimed and fired now you must press buttons which is far slower for me than the old system.  Note the title people who want the new driving set up can have it. (i think its just a way to get out of modeling the interiors of the vehicles.
You're wrong on this one.  The FPS video game industry has proven out the mouse as the optimal SA/aiming system.  Only TrackIR beats it, and only for SA.

Next, if you want to keep the turret still, you can go to pintle MG position.  Not perfect but sounds like it fits your purposes.  Or you can just keep using the old hat style view system.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: bangsbox on April 27, 2011, 12:24:19 PM
i love new system... but since my joystick has i slight lean to it is hard for me to stay on target with mouse. is there anyway to disable joystick when in gv like old days?
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: 321BAR on April 28, 2011, 12:25:36 AM
if you want a limited field of view, you still have zoom view from the commander's position and using the bracket keys adjusts the zoom level.
you do know zoom in aircraft and gunner positions create a near 1:1 ratio of realistic views right? (excluding the tanks old superzoom)
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: guncrasher on April 28, 2011, 06:35:13 AM
Except for the driver part you can do the exact same thing. Nothing is forcing you to use the mouse. I.E. View keys are still active as before.

HiTech

this is true.  I have all the gv functions linked to my joystick.  except for engine start, I am out of buttons for that one.  but I have zoom toggle/in/out, move forward/reverse/turn left/turn right/ all the views on hatswitch.  I even have the fire primary/secondary linked to the stick  :D. (first time I upped a gv and pulled the trigger and nothing happened.  somehow it wasnt mapped  :rofl).

oh I forgot the dial up range for tanks is linked to my throttle, it is an awesome option  :banana:.

semp
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: CrosFire on April 28, 2011, 06:48:32 AM
Except for the driver part you can do the exact same thing. Nothing is forcing you to use the mouse. I.E. View keys are still active as before.HiTech

I need to be abel to disabel the mouse from doing anything because ill bump it or something and it will move the reticule and its bugs me.
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: BigKev03 on April 29, 2011, 09:40:50 PM
I love the new system.  For those having issues with it just go to the TA and practice a bit.  That is what I did until I got use to the new system enough to control the functions of my vehicle.  The change was for the better even though it may not seem liek it right now because it is so new.

BigKev
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: CrosFire on April 30, 2011, 06:41:39 AM

HTC said exactly that.. we should get new GV's more often with new system since they don't have to model an interior that barely anyone even uses to start with.

I used it alot because i could see what gear i was in and how fast i was going with the new system you cant climb hills to save your life........  and the interiors are cool i though.....
Title: Re: Abilty to pick GV set up
Post by: prowl3r on April 30, 2011, 10:54:18 AM
crossfire u r right but not from laziness but from our demands for more tanks more quickly. which i like and i can do without the drivers view if there were a hud for speed and gears with that said the control sys needs mapping option's and hi teck has addressed that in the general discussion under thoughts on wasd thread