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Title: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: niccxx on April 29, 2011, 11:01:39 PM
How do you do it. I rolled out in a tiger a couple nights ago. After 1 kill and 1 assist things quieted down so I rolled back to the spawn and when I ended sortie it said I was shot down and that I also ditched. 23 points lost. I asked someone later and was told to get as close to the spawn, cut the engine and hope for the best. Since then I've ended sortie without moving or starting my engine and it still says I ditched. Is this a bug?

Also, unrelated. Since the patch update, my text box is starts half way up my screen on the left side instead of the bottom. This sprawls text out to the center of my screen and interferes with gameplay. How do I change this? There doesn't seem to be any good help files on this website to answer most of my questions. The beginner's guide only covers about 10% of my questions. I like the game and even like most of the recent updates, but after 10+ years, the support structure for this is extremely lacking.

Thanks for all replys.
~Nicc
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: Rolex on April 30, 2011, 12:01:45 AM
Hiya niccxx,

There does appear to be a bug in landing vehicles successfully.

The tilde key (`/~) next to the 1 key toggles the text buffer expansion. It'll revert back to 3 lines. You can find all keyboard commands in game by bringing up the clipboard and going to Options>Controls>Map Keyboard.

The help section is very detailed. It's located here (http://www.hitechcreations.com/Help-Section/Getting-Started/aces-high-help-start.html). Click on a topic on the left menu.

You can also check the trainers page in my signature below.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 30, 2011, 01:03:59 AM
I agree the support manuals available for the game are...well....what support manuals?  There really isn't any.

Go look at the training material and you find lots of stuff that will now be out of date, as we have a WASD control scheme for vehicles.  It still says to drive a tank, start engine with the E key, then push your stick forward.

Also, I will be damned if I can find ANYWHERE on the site where it tells you how to capture an enemy base.  I recently restarted my account, and in the main arena there where a lot of guys talking about flags going white, but I didn't even know the flags in the town would change color.  I am still used to the days when we fought over the airbases directly, and all you really needed was to kill the AAA so the paratroopers would survive to bum rush into the map bunker.  Killing hangars was a good tactic to keep the enemy from spawning and prevent kamikaze runs to strafe the paratroopers.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: BaldEagl on April 30, 2011, 01:16:03 AM
You can successfully land a GV anywhere on the map as long as there are no enemys within 5500 yards.  If there are you get a ditch/death.  I always go for 6000 yards to be safe.

As Rolex said use the ~ key to toggle between limited and expanded text buffers.  You can left click on the buffer and drag it to wherever you want on your screen.

To capture an enemy airfield all the auto ack in the town near the field have to be down as well as enough buildings to turn the flag in the middle of town all white, then ten troops need to enter the maproom in town (next to the flag) uninjured.  To capture an enemy GV base or Port you only have to take down the auto ack and get ten uninjured troops into the maproom but most times you'll want to kill the manned guns too and possibly even the VH(s) to keep people from killing your troops.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: Rolex on April 30, 2011, 01:34:59 AM
The new method for vehicles was just released. We'll change the training information soon. The information is posted on the arena message for everyone to see, so people aren't wandering around in the dark about it.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: DoubleEagle on April 30, 2011, 02:43:27 AM
I would love to know more as that bit about base capture is interesting, but doesn't actually clearly answer some of what I want to know.

This is a post about Ground Vehicles, though.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: Lusche on April 30, 2011, 04:21:36 AM
How do you do it. I rolled out in a tiger a couple nights ago. After 1 kill and 1 assist things quieted down so I rolled back to the spawn and when I ended sortie it said I was shot down and that I also ditched. 23 points lost. I asked someone later and was told to get as close to the spawn, cut the engine and hope for the best. Since then I've ended sortie without moving or starting my engine and it still says I ditched. Is this a bug?


I want to emphasize again that the spawn has no influence on mission endings at all. It's all about distance to closest enemy (as already being pointed out in this thread). Rolling back to the spawn can even be counterproductive, as that's one of the places most likely to have any enemies around. Better get totally away from both spawn and enemy base.


(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1599/gvmissionoutcome.jpg)

Territory status is determined by ownership of the nearest base. This includes CV's. Spawn points do not matter.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: SkiMan on April 30, 2011, 12:26:58 PM
Can't get any clearer than that! Thanks Lusche :aok
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: BaldEagl on April 30, 2011, 01:38:53 PM
Lusche missed something.   :O  You can land successfully no matter if you are damaged or not or if there are enemys about or not at any time on the concrete or pavement at any friendly base.

Oops.  Nevermind.  It was me who missed it on his chart.   :uhoh
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: Volron on April 30, 2011, 04:10:53 PM
My question on this is, why would it say uninjured troops?  Is it even POSSIBLE to injure them? :headscratch:
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: crazyivan on April 30, 2011, 08:56:59 PM
Lusche missed something.   :O  You can land successfully no matter if you are damaged or not or if there are enemys about or not at any time on the concrete or pavement at any friendly base.

Oops.  Nevermind.  It was me who missed it on his chart.   :uhoh
Do NOT question thy chart!! :devil  pavement is always good, just make sure you're not rocking in neutral @#@%#%.

from what understand 5k away from enemy, except eny territory?
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 30, 2011, 09:12:36 PM
from what understand 5k away from enemy, except eny territory?

Anywhere....

Even the middle of an Enemy airfield.

I like 6k just for a margin of error.


wrongway
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: crazyivan on April 30, 2011, 09:41:23 PM
Anywhere....

Even the middle of an Enemy airfield.

I like 6k just for a margin of error.


wrongway
Yes troll, I said except enemy territory!
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 30, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
Yes troll, I said except enemy territory!

But this is not true.

You can land safely in enemy territory, on an enemy airbase if you like, on or off concrete if you like, as long as no enemy is within 6k of you.

 :neener:

It's not the where, because it can be anywhere. It's all about where the enemy is if you are not in friendly territory on concrete, which is the only where "always".

wrongway
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: SHawk on April 30, 2011, 11:13:38 PM
But this is not true.

You can land safely in enemy territory, on an enemy airbase if you like, on or off concrete if you like, as long as no enemy is within 6k of you.

 :neener:

It's not the where, because it can be anywhere. It's all about where the enemy is if you are not in friendly territory on concrete, which is the only where "always".

wrongway

Still not completely true, Lets say any plane injured your tank in any way, even if you show no damage or have re-supplied your damaged tank, and then flies away. You have no one within 6K of you and end mission, the plane gets your kill if he hasn't ended mission yet. At least that's my experience. Now if he lands before you end, you can then get a successful landing. :aok
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: oboe on May 01, 2011, 09:25:36 AM
How do you measure in game distances when in a GV?   Enemy A/C still have icons showing distance but I've never figured out how to tell the distance to an enemy GV.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: BaldEagl on May 01, 2011, 09:44:44 AM
How do you measure in game distances when in a GV?   Enemy A/C still have icons showing distance but I've never figured out how to tell the distance to an enemy GV.

You can't even if you could see them.  That's why when I think I've got enough seperation I drive some more.  If there's friendlies I try to judge by their icons but even then sometimes you can't see them.  If you drive out of range channel range of friendlies you for sure have enough seperation.  I'm not sure what that distance is.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 01, 2011, 09:50:22 AM
Still not completely true, Lets say any plane injured your tank in any way, even if you show no damage or have re-supplied your damaged tank, and then flies away. You have no one within 6K of you and end mission, the plane gets your kill if he hasn't ended mission yet. At least that's my experience. Now if he lands before you end, you can then get a successful landing. :aok

I would speculate that someone was closer to you than you thought but you could be right.

I've "crashed" upon towering out more than once in a damaged gv on concrete on a friendly field. Couldn't be moving as the engine was dead or I was tracked.



wrongway
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: redcatcherb412 on May 01, 2011, 10:00:12 AM
Had that happen yesterday.  Had m4 out to kill a tank shelling field, killed it and drove back to airfield. Parked on concrete, checked map and no base or town blinking no cons on radar  landed and got a ditch.  Reupped, town was real close, drove to it, parked on a road and got a Landing.  Might have been an nme con NOE or something earlier, just looked safe to land it.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: Lusche on May 01, 2011, 10:04:56 AM
Had that happen yesterday.  Had m4 out to kill a tank shelling field, killed it and drove back to airfield. Parked on concrete, checked map and no base or town blinking no cons on radar  landed and got a ditch.  Reupped, town was real close, drove to it, parked on a road and got a Landing.  Might have been an nme con NOE or something earlier, just looked safe to land it.


This is a bug that happened to a few people recently (and has been reported in the Bug Report forum). You should be able to land safely on concrete on a friendly base under all circumstances.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: Lusche on May 01, 2011, 10:05:45 AM
Still not completely true, Lets say any plane injured your tank in any way, even if you show no damage or have re-supplied your damaged tank, and then flies away. You have no one within 6K of you and end mission, the plane gets your kill if he hasn't ended mission yet. At least that's my experience. Now if he lands before you end, you can then get a successful landing. :aok

Ah ja... I think you are right. I only tested it with self afflicted damage.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: Lusche on May 01, 2011, 10:08:40 AM
How do you measure in game distances when in a GV?  

Basically: If you can hear them, your are too close. If you can see any, you are still too close. If you can't hear or see them... you simply don't know if someone is still close enough. Sometimes it's just a gamble ;)

Hint: Do not drive back to spawn or towards enemy base. Drive into some completely unlikely direction.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: WWhiskey on May 01, 2011, 10:16:24 AM
How do you measure in game distances when in a GV?   Enemy A/C still have icons showing distance but I've never figured out how to tell the distance to an enemy GV.
The best way is to have a squadie fly over and read his icon distance as he passes over the closest enemy
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: kvuo75 on May 01, 2011, 12:10:57 PM

This is a bug that happened to a few people recently (and has been reported in the Bug Report forum). You should be able to land safely on concrete on a friendly base under all circumstances.

I think i got in an argument with someone on country channel yesterday about this... I have been presuming people are still inching forward or backwards (most likely from holding down s to stop and actually going into reverse) when exiting, then someone said they just start engine in hangar, and exit, and get ditch.. I tried but could not replicate it.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: oboe on May 01, 2011, 12:52:39 PM
I rolled part away across the field the other day in a Panther.  Then the base stopped flashed so I stopped and exited, and I got a ditch.   Even though I'd only driven maybe a couple hundred yards and was still on the field.
Title: Re: Landing a GV successfully
Post by: Tr1gg22 on May 01, 2011, 01:15:43 PM
it said I ditched twice on concrete in a fighter hanger...I no it's just a bug that will be fixed... :salute