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Title: Rumor
Post by: Noir on April 30, 2011, 05:58:51 AM
Someone said that HTC might revert the tanks back  :cry

Please don't do it  :frown:
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: prowl3r on April 30, 2011, 06:32:56 AM
first ive heard o this. can it be? dont tease me. maybe my prayers and profanity werent wasted after all :banana:
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: pallero on April 30, 2011, 06:36:13 AM
Only thing we need in gvs is analog steering system like rudder/pedals.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: prowl3r on April 30, 2011, 06:39:12 AM
your right pallero that would stop the profanity :rock
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: CrosFire on April 30, 2011, 06:45:00 AM
They souldnt revert back BUT have a pickable old or new option because i bet they have lost money over this little ordeal i know ill never tank again with it like this.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Pigslilspaz on April 30, 2011, 06:50:17 AM
They souldnt revert back BUT have a pickable old or new option because i bet they have lost money over this little ordeal i know ill never tank again with it like this.
And I couldn't stand tanking with how it was, now I like it.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: fudgums on April 30, 2011, 07:29:01 AM
OMGz Hitech changed the game and I have to learn something new!!!



Get over it, the new GV system is for the best and atleast try it more than once and before you make an opinion on it.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Noir on April 30, 2011, 07:29:23 AM
And I couldn't stand tanking with how it was, now I like it.

 :aok
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: prowl3r on April 30, 2011, 07:35:00 AM
OMGz Hitech changed the game and I have to learn something new!!!



Get over it, the new GV system is for the best and atleast try it more than once and before you make an opinion on it.


i have m any hours with new sys includeing offline practice i just wwant an analouge steering option
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: fudgums on April 30, 2011, 07:36:17 AM

i have m any hours with new sys includeing offline practice i just wwant an analouge steering option

Wasn't necessarily directed toward you, I just see/seen alot of people complaining about it. 
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: SkiMan on April 30, 2011, 07:44:08 AM
How about an analogue to digital converter.

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n212/DevilDogTwin/white-trash-repairs-i-think-this-is-supposed-to-be-over-wasd.jpg)

I'm not a big fan of the wasd steering, but I've mapped the controls to my speedpad and since I can still control the main gun with
the joystick it's working out OK.


It does feel a bit more "first person shooter" to me though.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: prowl3r on April 30, 2011, 07:46:12 AM
 :joystick: :rofl
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: USRanger on April 30, 2011, 08:08:31 AM
Someone said that HTC might revert the tanks back  :cry

Please don't do it  :frown:

Yep. They are throwing all the time & energy they put into it out the window after a few days.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: M0nkey_Man on April 30, 2011, 08:38:27 AM
keep wasd steering, just give my my epic zoom sights again :aok :noid
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: killrDan on April 30, 2011, 09:05:37 AM
Rumor, rumors, and more rumors....maybe true, probably not, but at the end of the day, just rumor.

I like the new GV controls but would like analog steering back on my pedals.  I hope HTC doesn't consider putting zoom optics back in the M4.  It's totally unrealistic to see an M4 one shot kill a Panzer at 3k.  That didn't ordinarily happen in WWII.  Most M4 kill shots on German iron were 1000 yds or less.  The new optics are much more realistic   :aok
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: StokesAk on April 30, 2011, 09:10:36 AM
Here is a though, goto the Training Arena with some friends for an hour and learn the new controls.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: gyrene81 on April 30, 2011, 09:13:57 AM
Here is a though, goto the Training Arena with some friends for an hour and learn the new controls.
as long as you been here stokes, you should know that's totally out of the question...it's easier to whine on the forums than do something logical.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: R 105 on April 30, 2011, 09:33:10 AM
 While I love the new sights I hate the new steering with the key pad. The key pad steering is why I only played World of tanks for about a week. I would have been happy with the new sights and the spawn drives cut in half so you can get into action faster. So if the rumor of the old steering being restored is true that is great news for me but I ain't holding my breath.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: hitech on April 30, 2011, 09:40:11 AM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Lusche on April 30, 2011, 09:47:15 AM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer.


 :banana:
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 30, 2011, 09:48:28 AM
We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech

Compas too? Not that it would help me any anyhow.   :rolleyes:


As the system is now, the only problem I find is breaking old habits and learning to steer with my thumb.



wrongway
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Noir on April 30, 2011, 10:00:51 AM
very nice!
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: prowl3r on April 30, 2011, 10:04:31 AM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech
:salute THANK YOU :salute
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: pallero on April 30, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech

(http://www.rajavirasto.net/hymi/woohoo.gif)

Thank you very many!
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Yeager on April 30, 2011, 12:00:51 PM
I noticed that when in the commanders position you can hear the turret being rotated but when in the gunsight you can not hear it.  Can you make the sound happen in the gun sight position as well?  Also, in powered aircrat turrets?  Not necessary but a nice addition to the immersion factor.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: PuppetZ on April 30, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
And I couldn't stand tanking with how it was, now I like it.

+1
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Tigger29 on April 30, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech

 :rock

Now it's time to talk about nooks....  :bolt:
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: waystin2 on April 30, 2011, 12:31:34 PM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech

Hitech I love you in a manly sort of way Sir! :aok
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: colmbo on April 30, 2011, 12:36:01 PM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech

Ya know, I'm a long time Warbirds guy.  I really liked the game....but I have to say, being here and seeing this kind of reply/response from the HMFIC is encouraging and refreshing.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: shermanjr on April 30, 2011, 12:46:01 PM
but they have have zooming in because i find i hard to believe that some tanks have it and some dont
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: usvi on April 30, 2011, 12:51:40 PM
OMGz Hitech changed the game and I have to learn something new!!!


(http://www.librarian.net/talks/cmrls/lolcat.jpg)
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech

(http://www.wagnbrag.com/data/3/c/7/7/8/424//happy_kitty.bm1232560585.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Easyscor on April 30, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech

Andy and I thank you!

 :rock
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Scca on April 30, 2011, 12:54:03 PM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech
+1

I am really liking this....
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Noir on April 30, 2011, 01:29:56 PM
very nice!
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 30, 2011, 01:40:10 PM
but they have have zooming in because i find i hard to believe that some tanks have it and some dont

Two cameras. One is a point and shoot instamatic. One is an SLR with changeable lenses.

One has a limited zoom and the other zooms in and out alot.

Still hard to believe?


wrongway
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Zoney on April 30, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
Ya know, I'm a long time Warbirds guy.  I really liked the game....but I have to say, being here and seeing this kind of reply/response from the HMFIC is encouraging and refreshing.

Thanks.

I gotta agree with you on this Colmbo.  I am constantly amazed at the continuous up grades, new aircraft and general game improvement we see here.  The fact that the game owner chooses to participate in these discussions just puts it over the top.

Thanks HTC
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: B4Buster on April 30, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
fudgums post pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: colmbo on April 30, 2011, 03:25:05 PM
I gotta agree with you on this Colmbo. 

Uh oh!!   :D

Quote
I am constantly amazed at the continuous up grades, new aircraft and general game improvement we see here.  The fact that the game owner chooses to participate in these discussions just puts it over the top.

Thanks HTC

Yeah, almost scary isn't it.

<S>
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: SNIPER30 on April 30, 2011, 04:03:54 PM
Thank You  :x :x :x :x :x :banana: :cheers:
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: STEELE on April 30, 2011, 07:07:29 PM
I like Pariah's fiXx!!  Where can I get on of those doohickeys?  :joystick:
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: crazyivan on April 30, 2011, 08:20:58 PM
Hitech I love you in a manly sort of way Sir! :aok
Waystin, just went out and got a P-51 tattoo on his bum bum. Seriously though ,thank you well when it happens. For the analog twist/pedal steering back. Watch out Bishes, M3 all up in yah hizzie!

PS USVI, Lady you're scarrying us! :bolt:
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: MarineUS on April 30, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
And I couldn't stand tanking with how it was, now I like it.
+1  :aok

The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech
Now quit  :cry girls. :)

but they have have zooming in because i find i hard to believe that some tanks have it and some dont
So you find it hard to believe that some tanks back in the day had much better optics than others? I bet you think every tank in WWII had a radio in it as well.....
Why do you think German commanders could "snipe" out allied tanks before they ever got close? Those guys had the equipment, experience and just B.A. overall military might to do it.

Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: waystin2 on May 01, 2011, 09:15:16 AM
Waystin, just went out and got a P-51 tattoo on his bum bum. 


Ivan owes Way money for monitor that he just spit coffee all over... :rofl
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: usvi on May 01, 2011, 11:26:06 AM
PS USVI, Lady you're scarrying us! :bolt:

(http://www.cat-lovers-gifts.com/images/cat_designs_200x200/design_missCrazyCat_wh.jpg)
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Tr1gg22 on May 01, 2011, 01:08:59 PM
And I couldn't stand tanking with how it was, now I like it.
+2
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Goose46 on May 01, 2011, 01:26:01 PM
The automatic transmission is really bad....cannot downshift going up hills so an M3 does 10mph when I used to do 35...cannot shift into neutral to coast down hills and I hate the keypad steering....there should be the options for either manual or automatic tranny and stick controls.....i do not tank anymore. :joystick:
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: usvi on May 01, 2011, 01:37:43 PM
The automatic transmission is really bad....cannot downshift going up hills so an M3 does 10mph when I used to do 35...cannot shift into neutral to coast down hills and I hate the keypad steering....there should be the options for either manual or automatic tranny and stick controls.....i do not tank anymore. :joystick:

The lack of neutral warp speed downhill coasting is perhaps a bit more realistic?
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: The Fugitive on May 01, 2011, 01:41:11 PM
The automatic transmission is really bad....cannot downshift going up hills so an M3 does 10mph when I used to do 35...cannot shift into neutral to coast down hills and I hate the keypad steering....there should be the options for either manual or automatic tranny and stick controls.....i do not tank anymore. :joystick:


I agree the 900 mph down hill runs were very gamey, I'm glad thats gone. I've only climbed one hill and the automatic tranny did fine, of course I was in a panzer and haven't messed with any others. Setting the "ASWD" keys to a hat on my throttle worked great as well as the "stop" key to stop and shut down quick.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: PFactorDave on May 01, 2011, 01:49:39 PM
I'll also agree that the mach speed downhill slalom runs were gamey, I'm glad they are gone. 

That said, I also agree that HTC needs to address the automatic transmission.  It needs a little work, the performance is pretty annoying on the big hills.  I have faith that Hitech will adjust how it works on big hills eventually.

Other then that one quibble, I really like the new GV system.  I used to hate tanking, but it has been a lot of fun since the update.
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: WWhiskey on May 01, 2011, 02:23:57 PM


so the big hills in the game aren't  gamey ? No transmission ever built would hold a 40 ton tank going down a 45 degree slope !  But then there are no roads to the top of the big hills either!
Some compromises have to be made for the gv game that dint apply to the aircraft in this game, steep hills and iron rooted bushes that can take a tank out are pretty gamey but those of us that enjoy the gv game deal with it every day!
I did not know you couldn't drive a tank without a joystick before this last update?
That's what it sounds like, but the ability to make slight course corrections with one are very important to me, I
frequently climb the hills, it is an art getting a tiger up on a ridge I fell may have been lost without analog steering
control. I am glad it will be added back.  




Sorry I can't seem to get the quote right from my phone
I play for the gv game. And because of friends I have made while on here, without gv's I would probably quit.
I don't play WOT because it is no where near what AH had to offer. iMO!!
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 01, 2011, 03:38:56 PM
The automatic transmission is really bad....cannot downshift going up hills so an M3 does 10mph when I used to do 35...cannot shift into neutral to coast down hills and I hate the keypad steering....there should be the options for either manual or automatic tranny and stick controls.....i do not tank anymore. :joystick:


I'd like to see a film of an M-3 going 35 up the same hill it only will do 10 now. 

An M-3 downhill will still do about 90.

I hear the price of gas will be $6 a gallon next week. I miss last year when it was $1.50

 :rolleyes:

Where's my BS flag?


wrongway
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: bj229r on May 01, 2011, 07:08:22 PM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech
TY Sir! Without reading the rest of the likely drivel inn this thread, I believe that one item will address 90% of the dissatisfaction with the new system
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: sparow on May 01, 2011, 07:30:07 PM
I never cease to be amazed with Aces High...

As you know, I play Aces High for a long time but mainly in aircrafts. Once in a while I like to take a GV but I'm really a noob at it. I have always enjoyed them, even knowing about some of it's shortcomings, never complained. No time to learn new tricks, I pay the price...

I was curious about this new sistem. I was a bit afraid of it, I must admit. But, behold, I found it easier for me! In everyway but using the reticles... I prefer this sistem, all I have to do is learn how to use the gunsights. I'll offer many kills to many better GV'ers, for sure.

But now, I really feel I am a tank commander. I can see around, I can turn the turret, I always know where I am looking, I can even fire a round if I have to. And when I need to shoot, I just go down and turn gunner.

The turning seems more realistic to me and the turn on a point ability is great!

All in all, I like this and will be tanking a little bit more, I'm sure! Good news to those looking for perk points, lol!

Cheers,
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: bustr on May 02, 2011, 06:00:32 AM
Does anyone have specifications for our games vehicals? The grades they could climb and descend, and what speeds were possible under those conditions? Some of the geographic features on our maps are not places in the real world WW2 tanks ever fought battles on.

You think maybe our maps geo features and spawn points up to till now were created in mind of the super speed, climbing, and descending abilities of our cartoon gun toteing Ferraris? Could any WW2 medium or heavy tank drive up or down the sides of the kinds of 45-60 degree walled canyons we have on many of our maps? How many tank battles in WW2 took place on the sides of the peaks in the alps or had heavy tanks driving down the sides of canyons like the Grand Canyon? 
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Vinkman on May 03, 2011, 08:47:00 AM
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.

HiTech

 :aok 

Love the new commander/system and adding the foot pedals for steering will make it more fun and intuitive.

Any chance the throttle could be added as an acceleration control? Set the middle of the slider range as "Do nothing" same as not activating a button now. Forward throttle starts accelerating. Slow for a little forward throttle, max acceleration for full throttle. Move the throttle back to mid point and vehicle maintains speed. Slide throttle back past midpoint and it decelerates, slowly at first, rapidly if throttle is all the way back [closed throttle].

The throttle is so intuitive, and it frees up two hat switches for other functions. 

Thanks for your consideration.  :salute
Title: Re: Rumor
Post by: Shuffler on May 03, 2011, 10:58:01 AM
How about an analogue to digital converter.

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n212/DevilDogTwin/white-trash-repairs-i-think-this-is-supposed-to-be-over-wasd.jpg)


 :rofl