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Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Wayout on April 30, 2011, 06:34:47 AM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on April 30, 2011, 07:09:56 AM
when men were men the saying "when men were men" didn't exsist.  :rock
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: Reaper90 on April 30, 2011, 09:20:48 PM
Pretty disturbing footage right there. I can count more than a half dozen definite fatalities, at the very least.

As a racer, I have a lot of appreciation and gratitude for those before me who demanded better driver protection and safety measures. Jacky Ickx and Jacky Stewart come to mind immediately.

Racing back then was fun and daring, and no one gave a lot of thought to the danger involved... at least until they burned to death or were crushed by the race car they had just been thrown from at high speed.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 30, 2011, 10:09:32 PM
Pretty disturbing footage right there. I can count more than a half dozen definite fatalities, at the very least.

As a racer, I have a lot of appreciation and gratitude for those before me who demanded better driver protection and safety measures. Jacky Ickx and Jacky Stewart come to mind immediately.

Racing back then was fun and daring, and no one gave a lot of thought to the danger involved... at least until they burned to death or were crushed by the race car they had just been thrown from at high speed.

Agreed on this.. and quite definitely in.

Thanks for posting this Wayout, enjoy your break.
I know I'll certainly enjoy an absence of your posting.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: F22RaptorDude on April 30, 2011, 10:45:10 PM
Agreed on this.. and quite definitely in.

Thanks for posting this Wayout, enjoy your break.
I know I'll certainly enjoy an absence of your posting.
Man your a complete jerk. :huh
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: Melvin on April 30, 2011, 10:48:05 PM
Agreed on this.. and quite definitely in.

Thanks for posting this Wayout, enjoy your break.
I know I'll certainly enjoy an absence of your posting.

I agree with Reaper as well, but I have to ask the Eskimo: Did you freeze your berries off, or are you naturally lame?

There is nothing IN worthy about this. Great song, great vid. WEAR YOUR SEATBELTS FRIENDS!

I've been in more than one rollover, and it isn't fun.

Here ya go Joe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmvCWwj6Og4
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: M0nkey_Man on April 30, 2011, 10:49:02 PM
Agreed on this.. and quite definitely in.

Thanks for posting this Wayout, enjoy your break.
I know I'll certainly enjoy an absence of your posting.
little eager on the in there
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 30, 2011, 10:54:27 PM
Yes, lets all watch with  glee as people get flung out of their cars at high
speed and die on impact.

Tell me, have you ever seen it happen in real life? You won't find it so
amusing afterwards.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: Melvin on April 30, 2011, 10:56:39 PM
Pay attention Joe the Eskino.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6hFZYcCPW8&feature=related
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: M0nkey_Man on April 30, 2011, 10:58:26 PM
Yes, lets all watch with  glee as people get flung out of their cars at high
speed and die on impact.

Tell me, have you ever seen it happen in real life? You won't find it so
amusing afterwards.
you didnt have to watch it and i have seen people die, i have even been in a roll over. I HAVE seen this stuff
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: F22RaptorDude on April 30, 2011, 11:00:10 PM
Yes, lets all watch with  glee as people get flung out of their cars at high
speed and die on impact.

Tell me, have you ever seen it happen in real life? You won't find it so
amusing afterwards.
I've seen plenty of actual people die, my grandfather died in my grandmothers arms, and I saw my great grandmother get wrecked by an 18 wheeler and saw her die.  I didn't find it amusing, But I got over it. Besides they learned from mistakes and made harnesses and roll cages and more sturdy fuel tanks with engine cut switches. If non of these people had died that stuff wouldn't have been thought to be needed. These people dying made our present driving safe.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 30, 2011, 11:00:14 PM
Did I have to watch it? No, and I didn't watch it all.

However, it's quite hard to tell what's on the other side of a link,
when no description is given.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: Melvin on April 30, 2011, 11:00:46 PM
Don't let the Eskitroll bother you fellas. Pretend it doesn't exist. (Everybody else does.)
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: F22RaptorDude on April 30, 2011, 11:03:39 PM
Don't let the Eskitroll bother you fellas. Pretend it doesn't exist. (Everybody else does.)
I Honestly hate immature people. I think i'll ignore him, he boils my blood.  :mad: Sorry Wayout
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 30, 2011, 11:05:04 PM
I Honestly hate immature people. I think i'll ignore him, he boils my blood.  :mad: Sorry Wayout

You're one to speak.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: Reaper90 on April 30, 2011, 11:07:05 PM
I don't think the vid was "IN" worthy, but my problem is that it's just a glorification of the bad side that so many "race fans" only seem to want to see....

This is what I despise about "some" forms of racing and its fans.... the TV coverage and ratings interests keep the rules structured in a way that there are plenty of wrecks and carnage, because the fans don't want to go home from the race without having seen the "big one" where 15+ cars pile up at 180mph and at least a few get airborne, and if a driver is killed every few years everybody is sad, T-shirt and hat sales with that driver's number will go up, they'll implement some rudamentary safety measures, but the wrecks must be kept an integral part of the action because the fans want blood, drama, and twisted metal. Good close racing is not enough... they want the gladiators to kill each other... the more cautions, the better..... it's sickening.

"wear your seatbelts"...... it wasn't until the '50's or '60's the even a lap belt was used, much less a shoulder belt or 4 or 5 point harness. Fuel cells? Nah, this fuel tank that will rupture on impact will be fine. Fire suit? What's that? This cotton shirt and jeans will be fine. Roll cage? BAH!

Hey, look, lets put a big oak tree right in the runoff erea on the outside of a 100mph turn. Ask Jim Clark about the virtue of trees on the outside of turns.

Danger was and always will be part of motor racing. And YES, there is an assumed risk and each and every one of those guys knew what they were risking.

BUT, the point has always been and should still be the racing.... not the crashing and the inevitable injury and death that results, especially back then. This vid did nothing to glorify the racing... it only glorified the damage and death that resulted when it went wrong. But hey, it had a great song.

Maybe that was the point. I really don't know.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: Jayhawk on April 30, 2011, 11:09:08 PM
The video isn't really worthy of a lock, but the way this thread is going... well I'm in.

Yes, lets all watch with  glee as people get flung out of their cars at high
speed and die on impact.

Tell me, have you ever seen it happen in real life? You won't find it so
amusing afterwards.

Also, I didn't watch it with glee, it was more of a kind of awe of the days of past, and makes me think about some of the safety features we have today.  I find rubber playgrounds hilarious, I remember I was lucky if we got jagged rocks under our playground.  However, in the future, are our kids going to laugh about the pansy kids playing on the safety gel that absorbs all shock, and think back to the days when all they played on was recycled tires?  

Interesting video, very intriguing, it makes ya think.  However, thinking about death doesn't mean you take it lightly.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: F22RaptorDude on April 30, 2011, 11:10:21 PM
You're one to speak.
I'm not the one going around hoping that people are banned, nor do I try to make trouble.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: M0nkey_Man on April 30, 2011, 11:11:22 PM
hell, i didnt even get to say goodbye to grandma. My parents and sister had gone to her house and i didnt want to go. She died while they were over there.I have to live with i didnt get to say goodbye to my own grandma ,who was a better mother than my own mom, because i wanted to sit down and play on this damn computer.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: Melvin on April 30, 2011, 11:12:59 PM
  However, thinking about death doesn't mean you take it lightly.

^^^ This

EDIT: We play a game based upon killing people. If one can't stand to watch videos that contain personal injury or death, one should just stop it and move on.

There is nothing funny about dying (actually I DO know a few good jokes on the matter, but won't share them here). The video posted by the OP was one that should be viewed with a full grip of it's historical significance. Nothing more, nothing less.

EDIT2: If you want to see some rugged wipe-outs, I recommend the "Crash Impact" series. They are on Youtube.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: Karnak on April 30, 2011, 11:34:36 PM
The bit I might say is objectionable is the stance the OP took with the title, which implies that those guys were manly men who would scoff at safety devices as compared to today's wussy men who stoop to actually using safety devices.  I think that is rubbish.

I do think that being over protective of children harms the child's development though.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: GFShill on May 02, 2011, 08:45:51 AM
I didn't see anything objectionable.  It's like watching old WW1 and WW2 footage.  Racing has been flirting with death it's whole history, even now.  Just ask Dale Earnhardt what Turn 4 looks like at Daytona.  Oh wait. You can't.

I appreciated the video for what it is - an example of how things used to be before lessons were learned.
Title: Re: When men were men...
Post by: ozrocker on May 02, 2011, 09:11:57 AM
Sure are a lot of INS this weekend.

                                                                <S> Oz