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Title: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Delirium on April 30, 2011, 07:55:57 AM
I'd like to suggest HTC completes the removal of the mouse cursor as targeting recticle. Now that the mouse cursor is only available when the map is open, some are leaving the map very small, but open, so they can still use the thing as a gun sight.

Can HTC allow the mouse cursor only to be viewed when it is directly over the clipboard?
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Noir on April 30, 2011, 08:01:14 AM
how can I find the clipboard if I can't see the mouse?
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Lusche on April 30, 2011, 08:08:14 AM
how can I find the clipboard if I can't see the mouse?

or the pop up boxes?
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: fbEagle on April 30, 2011, 08:25:16 AM
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I'd like to suggest HTC completes the removal of the mouse cursor as targeting recticle. Now that the mouse cursor is only available when the map is open, some are leaving the map very small, but open, so they can still use the thing as a gun sight.

Can HTC allow the mouse cursor only to be viewed when it is directly over the clipboard?

One question... WHY?? :huh
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Saxman on April 30, 2011, 08:37:36 AM
I'd like to suggest HTC completes the removal of the mouse cursor as targeting recticle. Now that the mouse cursor is only available when the map is open, some are leaving the map very small, but open, so they can still use the thing as a gun sight.

Can HTC allow the mouse cursor only to be viewed when it is directly over the clipboard?

One solution (and one I'd personally like to see anyway) is to force all aircraft to use their historical gunsights and not allow them to be changed. Then players can't create a blank gunsight file, so trying to use the mouse cursor will instead clutter their sight picture. For aircraft which are recorded to have used several different sights (IE, F4U-1s had I believe the N6 installed in the factory but many units exchanged them for the Mk.VIII once in combat) provide a hangar option to select which of the sights to use.
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Noir on April 30, 2011, 08:48:47 AM
One solution (and one I'd personally like to see anyway) is to force all aircraft to use their historical gunsights and not allow them to be changed. Then players can't create a blank gunsight file, so trying to use the mouse cursor will instead clutter their sight picture. For aircraft which are recorded to have used several different sights (IE, F4U-1s had I believe the N6 installed in the factory but many units exchanged them for the Mk.VIII once in combat) provide a hangar option to select which of the sights to use.

That would be nice! great immersion factor
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: gyrene81 on April 30, 2011, 08:59:28 AM
One question... WHY?? :huh
why not? it's as gamey as f3 mode.
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: james on April 30, 2011, 09:17:24 AM
why not? it's as gamey as f3 mode.

It IS a game though. I don't use the mouse like a gunsight but, if there are people that do it's their thing I guess.
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: gyrene81 on April 30, 2011, 09:22:05 AM
See rule #4
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Butcher on April 30, 2011, 09:28:13 AM
See rule #4

The game has to sell subscriptions every month, I don't believe taking a mouse cursor out of the game makes it more "simulation" then "game" - either way its just one small thing that can be left alone for the players to decide, either way its not likely they will re-add the mouse or get rid of it entirely.

Only reason I request to keep it, because its already been available, doesn't really matter because players will always Game the "game".
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: james on April 30, 2011, 09:32:16 AM
There's not too much simulation in here though. The flaps come up automatically, the gunsights on the planes that used lead computing aren't in the game. The arena we play in the most has spits vs corsairs and 109's vs zeke's. The FSO is close to scenario's. The water is like rock. ETC. I agree that making it too gamey takes away from some of the immersion. It is that immersion that keeps me coming back for more though. Once we lose the ability to fly with a stick I know i'll be packing up. I do think that there are those that can use a console controller and those that can't. I can't use xbox controllers or PS3 controllers. I wouldn't want to either.
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Oddball-CAF on April 30, 2011, 10:20:02 AM
Hell, just take a sharpie and put a dot where the center of the gunsight is, THEN adjust the seat. Don't need
a mouse. Speakin' of "gamey", let's do away with TrackIR, too. :)
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: PFactorDave on April 30, 2011, 10:25:11 AM
Hell, just take a sharpie and put a dot where the center of the gunsight is

For god's sake, use a dry erase marker not a sharpie!    :rofl
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: MaSonZ on April 30, 2011, 10:36:49 AM
For god's sake, use a dry erase marker not a sharpie!    :rofl
or put a small piece of tape on your moniter and put the sharpie on it. easy to remove if you dont want it anymore  :banana:...PITA to put back on the though
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 30, 2011, 11:14:41 AM
or put a small piece of tape on your moniter and put the sharpie on it. easy to remove if you dont want it anymore  :banana:...PITA to put back on the though

I demand HiTech take away people's tape and sharpies.

 :huh

...And phones to keep away "teh spiez!!1!"©     


wrongway
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: MaSonZ on April 30, 2011, 11:29:12 AM
I demand HiTech take away people's tape and sharpies.

 :huh

...And phones to keep away "teh spiez!!1!"©     


wrongway
I need my high defletion shots...if it was reality i would deal with my lack of view over the nose. AH puts many games to shame as far as reality goes. My tape and sharpie doesnt kill it all.
 :bolt:
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Delirium on May 02, 2011, 05:47:14 PM
It looks like the days of using a mouse cursor as a gunsight are over.

Thanks HTC and thank you, RTHolmes, for posting a great alternative.  :aok
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: thndregg on May 03, 2011, 07:24:38 AM
One solution (and one I'd personally like to see anyway) is to force all aircraft to use their historical gunsights and not allow them to be changed. Then players can't create a blank gunsight file, so trying to use the mouse cursor will instead clutter their sight picture. For aircraft which are recorded to have used several different sights (IE, F4U-1s had I believe the N6 installed in the factory but many units exchanged them for the Mk.VIII once in combat) provide a hangar option to select which of the sights to use.

I like this. :aok
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: SlapShot on May 03, 2011, 12:20:02 PM
Hell, just take a sharpie and put a dot where the center of the gunsight is, THEN adjust the seat.

In the seat, looking forward, you should not be able to raise the seat any higher than the center of if pipper at the top edge of the glass sight.
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: lulu on May 03, 2011, 02:19:39 PM
I like to draw gun-sights for planes.

 :salute
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Oddball-CAF on May 03, 2011, 02:29:19 PM
In the seat, looking forward, you should not be able to raise the seat any higher than the center of if pipper at the top edge of the glass sight.

where's the "realism" in that idea? The better cockpits gave the pilots in them a much less limited view
than what you are describing here.
 
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: RTHolmes on May 03, 2011, 03:27:56 PM
how would a pilot raise themselves 12" in their seat while pulling several Gs, applying 40lbs pressure on the stick and maintaining precise control on the rudder pedals? :headscratch:

werent they starpped pretty tight into the seat too?

how much adjustment was there in the seat height?
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Krusty on May 03, 2011, 03:31:34 PM
It's a non-issue to all but a select group of the lame ones.

Why make policy for something that doesn't hurt anybody else and only impacts those select rare minority?

Especially when the policy you request doesn't stop anything?
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: RTHolmes on May 03, 2011, 03:41:24 PM
well my autohide request means that you still get the mouse for picking up gv supps and using the clipboard, but without having to move the mouse out the way everytime. whats wrong with that? :headscratch:
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Reaper90 on May 03, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
Speakin' of "gamey", let's do away with TrackIR, too. :)

"gamey" is using hat switches to look around and not using track IR.... I've looked at a lot of pictures of WWII cockpits and haven't seen, or read accounts, of pilots using any sort of switchgear what-so-ever to move their own heads.  :)
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Reaper90 on May 03, 2011, 03:57:59 PM
how would a pilot raise themselves 12" in their seat while pulling several Gs, applying 40lbs pressure on the stick and maintaining precise control on the rudder pedals? :headscratch:

werent they starpped pretty tight into the seat too?

how much adjustment was there in the seat height?

Agree 100%. The notion of people raising their head position to the max available while in the middle of a high-g turn so as to get a better look over the nose is gamey as crap. G loading should force you down into the seat as well as induce the progressive black out.....
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: badhorse on May 07, 2011, 04:04:55 PM
It IS a game though. I don't use the mouse like a gunsight but, if there are people that do it's their thing I guess.
I agree.  Please at least make it optional.
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 07, 2011, 08:30:01 PM
I agree.  Please at least make it optional.

Put a dot on your monitor.

I've always read of pilots lowering their seats to the max because they didn't want to get shot.

Silly pilots, worrying about death when they could be getting a better view instead. Priorities.

 :rofl


wrongway
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: badhorse on May 08, 2011, 12:05:32 AM
well my autohide request means that you still get the mouse for picking up gv supps and using the clipboard, but without having to move the mouse out the way everytime. whats wrong with that? :headscratch:
Yeah right. I love the new process.  Turret gets taken out.  Start slapping around your mouse. Oh yeah, Mouse was removed. Bring up clipboard so you've got a mouse. Click on your supplies. Clipboard up or down, lose the mouse again.
Bring back the H key. You've always been able to remove the mouse. What's wrong with that?  :bhead
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 08, 2011, 12:30:43 AM
Yeah right. I love the new process.  Turret gets taken out.  Start slapping around your mouse. Oh yeah, Mouse was removed. Bring up clipboard so you've got a mouse. Click on your supplies. Clipboard up or down, lose the mouse again.
Bring back the H key. You've always been able to remove the mouse. What's wrong with that?  :bhead

I learned yesterday, from reading these very message boards, that all you need to do to pick up gv supplies is




































PRESS ENTER




And by jingies, IT WORKS!!

 :banana:






wrongway
(Not shouting, but celebrating)
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on May 08, 2011, 12:40:29 PM
+1 on historical sights only, and its immersion factor.  :aok

The very first post I ever made in the forums, May 2009, was to find out what the historical sights for the Lightnings were since they all that I fly.

I have them now and they are all that I use. However, if I am wrong about these being the correct sights I would appreciate anyone letting me know.

G - USN3
J - USAAFN9
L - L3 50MilGrnd

I fly the L with rockets, I enjoy killing radar & acks. And the J & G for air-to-air only.

just my $0.02 worth  :old:
Title: Re: Complete the removal of the mouse
Post by: bangsbox on May 09, 2011, 11:45:09 AM
i want my mouse sight back  :frown:  i used it for osti/wirb and mossy. i dont thinks its a big deal having it not like u couldnt just have some kind of mark any way... so now ill have to cut a little piece of masking tape and put it where my mouse was lol