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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mthrockmor on May 01, 2011, 05:00:40 PM
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I was in Chattanooga on Friday and purchased three Life Magazines from the 1940's. Incredible price and stories.
What struck me is the blatant propaganda. Two examples, both adds by defense firms. One magazine is from 1944 and brags about how their product in the hands of the US Navy helped them sink "5 Jap cruisers at the Battle of Savo Island in 1942." shocking, since it was the exact opposite results where the "Japs" sunk 5 of our heavy cruisers at Savo. Interesting that two years after the American people still did not know what actually happened. I wonder how families were notified of the loss without learning the ship had been sunk.
Second example, not as direct but B-24s. The add was from Consolidated bragging about how most missions over Germany include all B-24s returning home with no losses. Oh, and bragging that they did not need escort because they were so heavily armed and could outdive Fw's to escape them! This is from Dec 1942.
Another story was about Cabana Girls at some club in New York. This is "Life" magazine, the big one. They had a picture of each girl, what their goals were, height, weight, bust and hip size. Full blown measurements right in 'Americas magazine.' I wish they did that now.
I could go on but shocking how much propaganda is found on almost every page.
Boo
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Yeah the propaganda is much more sophisticated now...
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I was in Chattanooga on Friday and purchased three Life Magazines from the 1940's. Incredible price and stories.
What struck me is the blatant propaganda. Two examples, both adds by defense firms. One magazine is from 1944 and brags about how their product in the hands of the US Navy helped them sink "5 Jap cruisers at the Battle of Savo Island in 1942." shocking, since it was the exact opposite results where the "Japs" sunk 5 of our heavy cruisers at Savo. Interesting that two years after the American people still did not know what actually happened. I wonder how families were notified of the loss without learning the ship had been sunk.
Second example, not as direct but B-24s. The add was from Consolidated bragging about how most missions over Germany include all B-24s returning home with no losses. Oh, and bragging that they did not need escort because they were so heavily armed and could outdive Fw's to escape them! This is from Dec 1942.
Another story was about Cabana Girls at some club in New York. This is "Life" magazine, the big one. They had a picture of each girl, what their goals were, height, weight, bust and hip size. Full blown measurements right in 'Americas magazine.' I wish they did that now.
I could go on but shocking how much propaganda is found on almost every page.
Boo
That would apply to about every wartime magazine you could find in any of the wartime countries. A different time and place.
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Yeah the propaganda is much more sophisticated now...
Today we just call it FOX NEWS
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INcredible isn't it? -_-
And it's not just Fox.
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INcredible isn't it? -_-
And it's not just Fox.
:rofl
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Those wartime Life magazines are great to look at. Yeah, there was certainly some propaganda going on. And a lot of morale boosting talk as well.
It would have been a very interesting time to be alive.
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Maybe 50 years from now you'll get to know the lies they feed you right now.
The saying 'in war the first victim is the truth' is no imagination.
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I was in Chattanooga on Friday and purchased three Life Magazines from the 1940's. Incredible price and stories.
What struck me is the blatant propaganda. Two examples, both adds by defense firms. One magazine is from 1944 and brags about how their product in the hands of the US Navy helped them sink "5 Jap cruisers at the Battle of Savo Island in 1942." shocking, since it was the exact opposite results where the "Japs" sunk 5 of our heavy cruisers at Savo. Interesting that two years after the American people still did not know what actually happened. I wonder how families were notified of the loss without learning the ship had been sunk.
Second example, not as direct but B-24s. The add was from Consolidated bragging about how most missions over Germany include all B-24s returning home with no losses. Oh, and bragging that they did not need escort because they were so heavily armed and could outdive Fw's to escape them! This is from Dec 1942.
Another story was about Cabana Girls at some club in New York. This is "Life" magazine, the big one. They had a picture of each girl, what their goals were, height, weight, bust and hip size. Full blown measurements right in 'Americas magazine.' I wish they did that now.
I could go on but shocking how much propaganda is found on almost every page.
Boo
Maybe they should have said
"Come join the Army Air corp where you too can fly like birds among the clouds, and have a 1 in 5 chance of seeing your families again"
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80% attrition rate? Apparently it is OK for government to lie to the citizens it owns...I mean governs. I've been in government for almost two decades and could not disagree more. It happens all the time and is the reason we are in such a fine mess. Tell me the price of gas, milk or bread, the collapse of the housing market...all results of government lies to protect us children from truths too hard for our little selves to bare.
Boo
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Today we just call it FOX NEWS
<removes wool from digr1's eyes> uh, ya...
Since they didn't have the interwebs, they could say just about anything they wanted. With cell phone videos, and facebook it's a bit harder to hide the truth (even if your CNN)
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Read John Dower - Embracing Defeat.
Lots of good things about how it worked back then.
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In WWII the "disinformation" fed to the enemy was thought to be important. Not a bad idea considering how many of the "enemy" we now know were in the country at that time.
My family was notified 21 days following the loss of my "great" uncles ship in the battle you mentioned. No details mind you just MIA and then listed as KIA at wars end.
(http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq197/Chalenge08/LostAtSavo.jpg)
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Today we just call it FOX NEWS
:banana: : Absolutely couldn't agree with you ... MSNBC is the place for the real news from REEL re-porters! They have Fluids running down their legs and diapers on their heads at CNN. :bhead
So yeah, I watch Fox. Thank God for USA. :rock
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The saying 'in war the first victim is the truth' is no imagination.
Because our military leaders know that CNN is the enemy's best intel source! :)
In my humble opinion, one of the greatest military moves was the intentional feeding of false invasion plans to the media at the onset of the First Gulf War, knowing that ALL of the networks were more than eager to make public exactly when and where our troops were to be coming ashore. Sure enough, Saddam had his forces massed to repel an invasion from the sea... and never expected the "end-around" from the desert....
And the media was OUTRAGED! How could they be lied to and tricked like that!?!?! :lol
The flip side of that, showing how irresponsible and reckless the media is in war, was when the Marines landed in Somolia a couple years later to support UN Humanitarian missions, in a place that was already a battleground and would eventually erupt into fighting between US forces and Somoli fighters..... and the media was right there on the beach with floodlights illuminating the landing troops so they could get great footage for the news. :bhead
Government telling people what they need to hear during war when lives are on the line? There's a fine line for sure, but the media sure as heck doesn't need free reign to report any and all they want to....
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Today we just call it FOX NEWS
Actually today they call it news.... the media in general is clueless.