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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: DadRabit on May 02, 2011, 10:08:30 AM
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Just a thought, dunno if it has been proposed but how about having a Roll Back Wednesday? Go back several years, no eny, no caps, several map choices, back to a time when Aces High was on it's way to the game we have today. As a veteran going on 11 years in Dale's game, I miss those simpler times.
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David (Daddy Rabbit) Jester
The Few DFC
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It didn't work. It was 90% steamrolling and 2 nations picking on the smallest nation (often but not always the underdog was knits).
The fighting was worse that way... I do miss some of those rare fights that might happen under such circumstances, BUT... those were rare.
I don't think you can really go back. If you could travel in time and look over your shoulder and watch yourself you'd probably think "What? Why do I like this? That's pathetic!"
You have changed just as much as the game environment. You can't change the game environment back and get that same experience, because the people and the community have evolved as well since that time. You can never go back.
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I disagree Krusty. I have not changed. I do enjoy the different planes, tanks and such but I miss the old times when fights were abundant, bases were taken by a team effort and maps changed. BTW, I mostly miss Krusty on Math.
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David (Daddy Rabbit) Jester
The Few DFC
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I mean that.... you yourself may not think you have changed but your mass of experience that defines to you what is fun and how you have fun has been added to with many extra years. Setting the ENY and arena caps back to "no effect" won't re-create the experience you had back then, since that's just one parameter of what has been changed by time.
That's why Titanic Tuesday is less fun than the single large arena was before the split. We've learned too much since then and so has everybody else.
Why, I remember when the P-38 had just one move (for 90% of the players): Immelman, repeat, and repeat. The tripple Immelman was what you saw almost every time, and if you couldn't shoot him before the second was done you would stall out and he was in position to bounce you. With the advent of the Ki-84 this changed and the P-38 had a challenger that could follow it up. With the Spit16 forget about it, the P-38 can Immelman all day and still the spit will beat it in the vertical.
So, using just this example: If you went back to the older settings you still couldn't just immelman 3x to beat an opponent. You'd be toast. Player skills, tactics, available planes, etc... have all changed.
Another example: Before the overgenerous docile handling they have now, F4us were rather unpleasant to fly and had terrible turn radii. Nobody flew them, save a few die-hards or folks upping from CVs. Now they're easy mode, almost.
To go back you'd have to also suggest limiting the planeset to only those found at "insert time frame here" and even then they still wouldn't be the same because you can't revert the game code to reflect that time either.
I just don't think it's possible, really. It might feed the nostalgia side of your memory, but everything else has changed and wouldn't reflect what you remember.
P.S. Some older maps were pulled because the game engine changed too much to handle them properly anymore. Mass dumps and discos were traced back to older maps in some cases. I'm thinking of some SEA maps and FSO/scenario problems, but it stands to reason similar problems exist with some MA maps.
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Just a thought, dunno if it has been proposed but how about having a Roll Back Wednesday? Go back several years, no eny, no caps, several map choices, back to a time when Aces High was on it's way to the game we have today. As a veteran going on 11 years in Dale's game, I miss those simpler times.
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David (Daddy Rabbit) Jester
The Few DFC
You may be able to "roll back" the game mechanics, but sadly, you cannot roll back the "community".
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I think we should roll it back even farther, back to when I was reading a book called "Enders Game", and daydreaming about how cool it might be if we had those computer thingies where we could have a simulated battle.
I'm kinda happy we have what we have and frankly I am absolutely amazed that we have a game like this.
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Slaps got it right, it's not the game, it's the community that has changed
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Slaps got it right, it's not the game, it's the community that has changed
QFT!
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With the Spit16 forget about it, the P-38 can Immelman all day and still the spit will beat it in the vertical.
It will? Gee...after all of these years I've been killing Spitfire XVI's the wrong way. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
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But you're not one of those 1-trick-ponies I mentioned :banana:
Also, not every spit pilot knows what the heck he's doing, eh?
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You may be able to "roll back" the game mechanics, but sadly, you cannot roll back the "community".
Spot on :aok