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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: lyric1 on May 02, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
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Since the search engine is not working at present I will ask here. Is the largest monitor that AHII is able to use a 30" screen?
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nope
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I know one guy that used a 50 TV as his monitor. Sat across the room to play.
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I'm not sure I understand the question. The physical size of the screen has nothing to do with it. Because of that, Aces High would run just fine on any size screen.. heck you could probably hook it up to a jumbo-tron if your video card would support it!
Now the pixel count is a different matter but again there is no limit to the number of pixels Aces High will run on. Your limitation as far as that goes is how good your video card(s) are.
It is a common misconception that larger monitors have more pixels. This is actually not normally the case. Especially since High Definition standards have come into play on televisions, computer monitors (for the most part) match those standards. Yes there are exceptions but not from the 'economy' options available at your local retailer. Simply put, most larger monitors have the same number of pixels as the smaller ones but the physical size of each pixel is larger.
If I take my 24" computer monitor which has a resolution of 1920X1200 and compare it to my 47" television (technically a monitor as well because it lacks a tuner) which has a resolution of 1920X1080, then in my case my smaller monitor has more pixels than my larger one!
Again, to more clearly answer your question, there is no limit to the physical size of the monitor required to run Aces High II.
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I'm not sure I understand the question. The physical size of the screen has nothing to do with it. Because of that, Aces High would run just fine on any size screen.. heck you could probably hook it up to a jumbo-tron if your video card would support it!
Now the pixel count is a different matter but again there is no limit to the number of pixels Aces High will run on. Your limitation as far as that goes is how good your video card(s) are.
It is a common misconception that larger monitors have more pixels. This is actually not normally the case. Especially since High Definition standards have come into play on televisions, computer monitors (for the most part) match those standards. Yes there are exceptions but not from the 'economy' options available at your local retailer. Simply put, most larger monitors have the same number of pixels as the smaller ones but the physical size of each pixel is larger.
If I take my 24" computer monitor which has a resolution of 1920X1200 and compare it to my 47" television (technically a monitor as well because it lacks a tuner) which has a resolution of 1920X1080, then in my case my smaller monitor has more pixels than my larger one!
Again, to more clearly answer your question, there is no limit to the physical size of the monitor required to run Aces High II.
Actually larger _monitors_ usually have more pixels. A 30" monitor can be 2760x1600 or similar. Large flat screen tvs usually have only low resolution panels because hd video doesn't need anything more. This is why large monitors are more expensive than large tvs.
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The biggest monitor you an use with AH is a 15" CRT. :noid :old:
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:rofl :rofl
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Actually larger _monitors_ usually have more pixels. A 30" monitor can be 2760x1600 or similar. Large flat screen tvs usually have only low resolution panels because hd video doesn't need anything more. This is why large monitors are more expensive than large tvs.
And yet I knew you'd still put your TWO CENTS in here.
If you took the time to read what I actually wrote, you'd have noticed that I said "YES there are exceptions but not from the 'economy' options available at your local retailer." Yes you are correct in that there are larger monitors out there with more pixels, but they are the exception rather than the norm.
Below is a screenshot I took from the Best Buy website. You'll notice that it shows they have 30 monitors that are 24" or larger in size. Just below that, you'll notice that out of all of their monitors, they only have two that have a higher resolution than 1920X1080. This tells me that your statement about larger monitors usually having more pixels is simply false.
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And yet I knew you'd still put your TWO CENTS in here.
If you took the time to read what I actually wrote, you'd have noticed that I said "YES there are exceptions but not from the 'economy' options available at your local retailer." Yes you are correct in that there are larger monitors out there with more pixels, but they are the exception rather than the norm.
Below is a screenshot I took from the Best Buy website. You'll notice that it shows they have 30 monitors that are 24" or larger in size. Just below that, you'll notice that out of all of their monitors, they only have two that have a higher resolution than 1920X1080. This tells me that your statement about larger monitors usually having more pixels is simply false.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/ayzqq.jpg)
It's not a theory. Larger monitors have higher resolutions unless they're some el-cheapo jokes like the stuff Best Buy seems to store. Who buys hardware from BB? Lol.
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And yet I knew that's EXACTLY what you would say again. You're so predictable.
That's your problem.. you nitpick the small 'facts' so much that you distort the bigger picture of things. You would probably dismiss an entire post regardless of its accuracy because of one single grammatical error in it.
Anyway while I'm sure "Your Majesty" is too good to shop at Best Buy there are still many people here that do. As a result I wrote my post with those people in mind. However, in order to appease YOU I just took a look at Newegg and found the following:
All three of their current 30" models have a resolution of 2560X1600. The prices of those range from $1200 to $2300.
All five of their current 27" models have a resolution of 1920X1080. The price of those range from $300 to $1300 (most being below $500).
Of their 24" models, six show a max resolution of 1920X1080, and six show a max resolution of 1920X1200. The price of these range from $150 to $1150 (most being below $400).
All I am trying to point out here is that physical size of the monitor often has little to do with its resolution!
While you are correct in that the 30" models do have a higher resolution they hardly qualify as an "economy" option for a monitor at least as far as I am concerned. The VAST MAJORITY of people will consider a larger monitor to be bigger then 20" or so, and of those who want even bigger will usually use an HDTV in its place. The few people who actually have a need for and the money to spend on a larger, higher resolution monitor are the exception and NOT THE NORM.
REGARDLESS in any case, the physical size of the monitor has NOTHING TO DO with whether Aces High will run on it which was the OP's concern. Aces High will even run at higher resolutions (regardless of monitor size) *IF* the computer's video card can support it. This has nothing to do with WHERE the monitor was bought and it has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the hardware that Best Buy sells.
Seriously.. get off your high horse and live in the real world for a change.
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It's not a theory. Larger monitors have higher resolutions unless they're some el-cheapo jokes like the stuff Best Buy seems to store. Who buys hardware from BB? Lol.
you are so of touch with the real world...you live in one of those gated communities or a manhattan highrise? if you had said that about walmart or target, even sears i would have agreed but best buy does carry the same quality as you find at newegg, tigerdirect, cdw-g...you just have to be willing to pay 5-10% more for the convenience of being able to see, touch and smell it.
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Lyric your video card will push 2560x1600 even better than it does 1920x1200.
Newegg has the Acer 32" monitor priced at $339 right now too.
If you are asking because you want to use your television then yes it will work with your HDMI line. Im not sure if you will be happy with it though.
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I've built a couple of these setups:
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Both have 32 inch tv's for a screen. one is used for xbox exclusively and has 720p resolution. The other is a 1080p and plays aces high with all the eye candy maxed except bump map. I am running an 8800gt video card and e6850 processor in that one with 4gb ddr2 800
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your majesty :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Who buys hardware from BB?
i do. what of it?
to the OP: sometimes i'll bring my tower downstairs and hook it up to my 61" tv. however, the tv is only 720, so it doesnt look nearly as good as my 1080p widescreen monitor. in reference to the original question, i'm pretty sure the game is universal to about any monitor size.
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And yet I knew that's EXACTLY what you would say again. You're so predictable.
You're letting your emotions cloud your judgement. Every word you say is seeping with the feeling of deep loss. For that I'm sorry.
All three of their current 30" models have a resolution of 2560X1600. The prices of those range from $1200 to $2300.
All five of their current 27" models have a resolution of 1920X1080. The price of those range from $300 to $1300 (most being below $500).
Of their 24" models, six show a max resolution of 1920X1080, and six show a max resolution of 1920X1200. The price of these range from $150 to $1150 (most being below $400).
All I am trying to point out here is that physical size of the monitor often has little to do with its resolution!
You state that all 30" models have higher resolutions than any model lower than 30" and then state there is no relation with size and resolution. The only reason full-hd resolution is so popular in lower price monitors is because they use the same mass produced panels as household tvs do. They're cheap so they make a compromise with the image quality and hope consumer buys it (literally).
However as far as real monitors go, screen size usually pretty much correlates with resolution increase for obvious image quality reasons. With some exceptions granted.
You're absolutely correct in that you can find basically any size screens with just a full-hd resolution. I'm not arguing that. But for physical reasons (dot size) small screens usually don't have super high resolutions and for the exact same reason larger screens will need higher resolutions if they're meant for monitor use (i.e. close proximity viewing) in order to preserve image quality. A regular flat screen tv can serve as a good compromise for a monitor, however they usually suffer from a large input lag, ghosting especially when image 'enhancing' features are on, and their dot size/separation may be uncomfortably large for shorter distance use.
Seriously.. get off your high horse and live in the real world for a change.
If you call sticking to the facts being on a high horse then obviously you're used to playing with ponies. Tell me, do you often use tv shopping network? They love people who are not so strict about baseless claims.
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Back to the question of the original poster:
No there is no physical size limitation to a screen size in AH but your computer hardware may not be able to push enough pixels required by large screens. The screen resolution defines the performance need. At 5760x resolutions you're going to need a seriously good graphics adapter to preserve a fast screen refresh ability.
While it's possible to run a large screen with lower than optimum resolutions it would be basically a retarded way to throw away money. You'd get a large low quality image where all the flaws are amplified in size - pretty much the opposite of what you're looking for.
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I have mine set up at 1080P on a 128 inch screen. That is 5 by 9. Feet that is. Getting shot down is much nicer in HD. :cheers:
I have seen bigger -A wrap around setup with 3 projectors. sahweeet..
Infidelz.
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Back to the question of the original poster:
No there is no physical size limitation to a screen size in AH but your computer hardware may not be able to push enough pixels required by large screens. The screen resolution defines the performance need. At 5760x resolutions you're going to need a seriously good graphics adapter to preserve a fast screen refresh ability.
While it's possible to run a large screen with lower than optimum resolutions it would be basically a retarded way to throw away money. You'd get a large low quality image where all the flaws are amplified in size - pretty much the opposite of what you're looking for.
then again definition of throwing money away and what we can live with are different from person to person. some people are perfectly happy playing on a 15 in crt that they bought along with their 486. some like us can only afford a 23 in with 1920x1080 resolution. and some others can afford to buy a monitor every other week. I wouldn't consider any of it as throwing money away.
ripley perhaps you should state your comments right away instead of dancing around trying to sound impressive. you're last post shouldda been your first.
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then again definition of throwing money away and what we can live with are different from person to person. some people are perfectly happy playing on a 15 in crt that they bought along with their 486. some like us can only afford a 23 in with 1920x1080 resolution. and some others can afford to buy a monitor every other week. I wouldn't consider any of it as throwing money away.
ripley perhaps you should state your comments right away instead of dancing around trying to sound impressive. you're last post shouldda been your first.
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First of all I haven't danced around anything.
Second I suggest you to try and understand what you read before starting the comments. At no point did I say buying a monitor is a waste of money. Misusing it is.
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First of all I haven't danced around anything.
Second I suggest you to try and understand what you read before starting the comments. At no point did I say buying a monitor is a waste of money. Misusing it is.
you implied buying hardware at BB was a waste. monitors are hardware. so i suggest you read your own crap before commenting on it.
el-cheapo jokes like the stuff Best Buy seems to store. Who buys hardware from BB? Lol.
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See Rule #4
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I have a hd from best buy, also a video card, power supply, g35 headset, two monitors and a cpu cooler. none of them ever failed. I also have a cpu cooler, headset, hd, video card from fry's, they havent failed either.
ripley best buy has some good quality stuff, they sell it at higher price than new egg, or some other internet company. but in exchange for the higher price, you can return it no questions asked withing two weeks or a month. not sure if you have ever walked into a best buy store or not. but let's just say not much of a choice when buying things such tv's, monitors, refrigerators, sound systems, etc.
I am pretty sure where you live you have lots of stores around, but not where I live. sure as hell not gonna buy a tv/monitor from target or walmart. that leaves either best buy, sears, paul's tv or fry's. those are the only stores that I know in southern California.
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I have a hd from best buy, also a video card, power supply, g35 headset, two monitors and a cpu cooler. none of them ever failed. I also have a cpu cooler, headset, hd, video card from fry's, they havent failed either.
ripley best buy has some good quality stuff, they sell it at higher price than new egg, or some other internet company. but in exchange for the higher price, you can return it no questions asked withing two weeks or a month. not sure if you have ever walked into a best buy store or not. but let's just say not much of a choice when buying things such tv's, monitors, refrigerators, sound systems, etc.
I am pretty sure where you live you have lots of stores around, but not where I live. sure as hell not gonna buy a tv/monitor from target or walmart. that leaves either best buy, sears, paul's tv or fry's. those are the only stores that I know in southern California.
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I know even BB can't be all bad. I was mainly questioning the use of its product lineup as an example when talking about monitors which have a notoriously wide quality and price variations. Some shops have very limited selection and often lack higher price range models, which can be a serious problem when discussing about size/resolution trends for example. Due to cheap/low grade ones having standard tv panels at mere full-hd and equally sized high-res models costing double or triple the price.
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Hmm I guess I am at the low end because I boughtg all 3 of my monitors from wal-mart and they have not failed me yet.
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Hmm I guess I am at the low end because I boughtg all 3 of my monitors from wal-mart and they have not failed me yet.
Hmm I guess I am at the low end because I boughtg all 3 of my monitors from wal-mart and they have not failed me yet.
hey you live in a place where walmart actually has quality stuff. over here they sell little more than a box with a screen on it. actually was looking at the tv's a couple of days ago, no monitors are displayed. neither target has them. and they're tv's are crappy compared to similarly priced stuff from bb. but I guess they bring merchandise based on how well (good?) they sell.
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