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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: RoGenT on May 02, 2011, 11:13:39 PM
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I've had some great fights last couple of days but these really stood out in my mind the most.
Vati6 - Great Turn N Burn Scissors N tea bagging squirrels on the deck pony fight earlier. I really wish one of us recorded it. Big :salute to not only you, but your squaddie ReddG for staying out so we could finish our fight. I sure wish I knew I was about ready to run out of fuel when I went vertical to try to fight him though lol
Stoney50: Short and brief, but was awesome Pony-B vs. Zeke fight :salute
Scotty57: Great TnB fight between my P47-40 and your 109; I can't say I have survived that long flying a fat girl on the deck, especially with a 109. Bummer it ended with us both getting picked :salute
Allison: Although you and I never actually hit each other, I had a blast avoiding those mighty guns in your Tiffy :salute
Jenks: I saw, I tried to conquer, and you kicked my butt like I was a new guy! lol :salute
INK: Although you pretty much creamed me without breaking a sweat when it was your Ki84 and my 47M: It was still alot of fun trying to avoid your guns for those few seconds; I think my mechanic was little mad when I came back home dragging only a wing lol :salute
TWC: There were at least four of you, and both I and my squadmate, Hong Kong, really enjoyed that 4 Vs 2, I look forward to it again sometime
:salute
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a ki84 should never cream a p47M or any model of the 47.just know how to fly one and you will do good.
ps-I'd love to take you on in any plane vs my D-40
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I think you seriously underestimate the Ki-84's power.
Only thing the jug can do that the Ki cannot is fly very fast at 30k and dive to the deck to run or egress.
In any kind of turn fight the Ki will have the upper hand, and it's no slouch in an e-fight either. Co-E, the Ki may not be as fast, but it is more than capable (assuming competent pilot)
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:rock I remember Lippy as being a great KI84 pilot. In fact one of the best.
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a ki84 should never cream a p47M or any model of the 47.just know how to fly one and you will do good.
ps-I'd love to take you on in any plane vs my D-40
I rarely fly in a 47, let alone try to fight a Ki84 that has alt. Now, I'm open to constructive critizism and all, but I knew it was him and that I was going to lose baddly no matter what I was in. I just took it in stride and had fun :neener:
As for your challenge, I'm sure we will come across each other's path soon enough :salute
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Forgot to add a few fights between Jazzi and myself. Both were fun even though he was picking on my poor TBM in one :lol :salute
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I rarely fly in a 47, let alone try to fight a Ki84 that has alt. Now, I'm open to constructive critizism and all, but I knew it was him and that I was going to lose baddly no matter what I was in. I just took it in stride and had fun :neener:
As for your challenge, I'm sure we will come across each other's path soon enough :salute
well just like any plane,if he dives on you from your 6,and you have E.just pull up.he will be 1-dead sticked or 2-unable to make the climb due to G's.if he does try to pull up with you then his plane will probably break,or he'l be blacked out.
same thing with most planes,especialy the ki84,holds e very well.
just basic tips i can lay out
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well just like any plane,if he dives on you from your 6,and you have E.just pull up.he will be 1-dead sticked or 2-unable to make the climb due to G's.if he does try to pull up with you then his plane will probably break,or he'l be blacked out.
same thing with most planes,especialy the ki84,holds e very well.
just basic tips i can lay out
Those things are almost never true. I don't know how you can say they are something you can reliably use. The Ki-84, or other fighter, doesn't have to be going 500mph to be diving on you.
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well just like any plane,if he dives on you from your 6,and you have E.just pull up.he will be 1-dead sticked or 2-unable to make the climb due to G's.if he does try to pull up with you then his plane will probably break,or he'l be blacked out.
same thing with most planes,especialy the ki84,holds e very well.
just basic tips i can lay out
Out of curiosity, what's your in game name?
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well just like any plane,if he dives on you from your 6,and you have E.just pull up.he will be 1-dead sticked or 2-unable to make the climb due to G's.if he does try to pull up with you then his plane will probably break,or he'l be blacked out.
same thing with most planes,especialy the ki84,holds e very well.
just basic tips i can lay out
:lol You must get killed a lot
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Out of curiosity, what's your in game name?
i didnt really give much detail into what i said earlyer.if i would've said,if you are at 3k and the ki is at 10k and dives.then what i said is USUALY true.
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i didnt really give much detail into what i said earlyer.if i would've said,if you are at 3k and the ki is at 10k and dives.then what i said is USUALY true.
Sure, but how often does that happen compared with you being at 3k and the Ki, or whatever, being at 5k and diving on you? Not often, and if it is happening the odds are pretty good that you are facing a newbie.
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Out of curiosity, what's your in game name?
it used to be MARSOC don't know what it is now
hey guys.made a name a few days ago.its MARSOC.im sure some of you have seen me.
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Sure, but how often does that happen compared with you being at 3k and the Ki, or whatever, being at 5k and diving on you? Not often, and if it is happening the odds are pretty good that you are facing a newbie.
if they have more e on you,and they are gaining rapidly,what would u do?cut throttle and keep going,stay full throttle and turn away,cut throttle and corkscrew,or just hope hes a terrible shot and misses you all together.from my experience in the jug,i'd say 7/10 times i kill the E fighter.whether it be a p51,38,ki84,or a spit.
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Rogent is a pretty good stick. i'm guessing that he would whoop you up in anything (@thundermouth). and a co-E co-alt KI84 walks all over any p47 given pilots of the same skill.
try doing things in order next time.......1) get a clue 2) make sure it's a relevant clue. doesn't count if you just make something up 3) post something intelligent. if this doesn't work, please refer to step 1, followed by step 2. :aok
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Rogent is a pretty good stick. i'm guessing that he would whoop you up in anything (@thundermouth). and a co-E co-alt KI84 walks all over any p47 given pilots of the same skill.
try doing things in order next time.......1) get a clue 2) make sure it's a relevant clue. doesn't count if you just make something up 3) post something intelligent. if this doesn't work, please refer to step 1, followed by step 2. :aok
ok il just go to the DA with someone tomarow,film a scenario like this and post on forums.
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ok il just go to the DA with someone tomarow,film a scenario like this and post on forums.
doesn't count if that someone is your second account.
p.s. :lol at "tomarow" sorry, had to
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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....BLAH..BLAH BLAH BLAH look at me BLAH BLAH BLAH I am the best kartoon pilot in game BLAH BLAH BLAH I have mastered all of t3h l33t ACMZ and BFMZ and GPUS and DFCS BLAH BLAH BLAH watch my boring movie BLAH BLAH BLAH where I run from someone in my M Jug BLAH BLAh BLAH and wait for them to run out of gas and BLAH BLAH BLAH call it a kill BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
he'll take someone to the DA and run from them for a 1/2 hour in his jug.
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doesn't count if that someone is your second account.
p.s. :lol at "tomarow" sorry, had to
sorry,its 23:15 and spelling is the last thing im worried about.and i dont have a second account.I'l get some1 ranked in top 50s.AH film viewer shows the names of both people so there should be no doubt
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he'll take someone to the DA and run from them for a 1/2 hour in his jug.
i fly the d-40 mr Gimp.im guessing you fly somthing like the 51 or a 109?
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Nah Toyota. Dang that Real Life stuff.......
:cry
Look at me AH Community by Lthunderpocket. I fry kartoon P47D40 and I am Kartoon P47D40 champion. Ki84 and 109 and Schpitfire suk. I R t3h awesomest P47D$0 Kartoon Pile it. Ki 84 falls a part when JUG farts at 44K. I taked My skwaddie to DA to prove it. He runned out of gas and I got kill sirry Ki84........sorry AH community you just not as good as me LThunderpock3333t
oh and hey Rogent......cool thread.
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WARNING AH KOMMUNITY: KI84 FALLS APART WHEN JUG FARTS AT 44K.
Thunderpocket sounds like something you get after eating a whole General Tso Dinner special and then you go for the eggroll too even though you shouldnt. OOhhh with that spicy mustard...egad look out honey I clogged the crapper again with a huge Thunderpocket.
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Rogent- Always a good fight :salute
a ki84 should never cream a p47M or any model of the 47.just know how to fly one and you will do good.
ps-I'd love to take you on in any plane vs my D-40
could you can show me how to fight 47's in my KI-84 :pray
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Had a great fight the other night against Irish One in his 47M, me in f4u-1a. Long fight and I was shot up pretty bad but luckily won the engagement. Wish I would have filmed it. :salute
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Had a great fight the other night against Irish One in his 47M, me in f4u-1a. Long fight and I was shot up pretty bad but luckily won the engagement. Wish I would have filmed it. :salute
that was a great fight! much fun; the reason i play the game :salute
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I'd listen to MARSOC/Thundrpocket,
He is in MANaWAR's squad, "WARBEAST's Kill Club" (no kidding ) So I'd imagine MANaWAR has taught him a thing or 3 about ACM
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a ki84 should never cream a p47M or any model of the 47.just know how to fly one and you will do good.
ps-I'd love to take you on in any plane vs my D-40
That would be correct if badcore or CF18 or DMG0D are flying the ki84.
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Sounds like there is FINALLY someone who can show me how to be a good P47 driver.
Can you help me lthunderpocket?
PM me if possible
JUGgler
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:rofl
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egad look out honey I clogged the crapper again with a huge Thunderpocket.
now that's just funny stuff LOL
:rofl
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I'd listen to MARSOC/Thundrpocket,
He is in MANaWAR's squad, "WARBEAST's Kill Club" (no kidding ) So I'd imagine MANaWAR has taught him a thing or 3 about ACM
was in it
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was in it
Still you will always be known for being in Manawar's Squad, and so you know - the top 50 doesn't mean squat, I can name at least 3 in top 10 alone in Fighter rank that couldn't fly out of a paper bag without help from a dozen squadies. I don't recall seeing you once in the DA in the past 3 weeks.
/Not saying I am any good, probably 1/25 in the DA in past week alone
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Rogent is a pretty good stick. i'm guessing that he would whoop you up in anything (@thundermouth). and a co-E co-alt KI84 walks all over any p47 given pilots of the same skill.
try doing things in order next time.......1) get a clue 2) make sure it's a relevant clue. doesn't count if you just make something up 3) post something intelligent. if this doesn't work, please refer to step 1, followed by step 2. :aok
First, this is accurate. Second, it's hilarious. Third, I love the juxtaposition of your cheerful tone and the fact that you're handing someone clueless hizace.
Fourth, this one's probably headed south as well so I'm getting in now.
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was in it
Woo-hoo! :banana: :banana: :banana:
You must be all :rock :banana: :aok to have been in Warbeast's :rock Kill Klub!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
Now them's good flyins!!! :rock :banana: :banana: :banana:
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I can name at least 3 in top 10 alone in Fighter rank that couldn't fly out of a paper bag without help from a dozen squadies.
The contestants:
TwinTail
Bruv119
Snailman
DimMak
SirNuke
Wmaker
Joachim
Debrody
m00t
DrBone
And now we want the names of those three you have in mind - Who will win Butcher's Wet Paperbag Award in gold, silver or bronze? :D
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Still you will always be known for being in Manawar's Squad, and so you know - the top 50 doesn't mean squat, I can name at least 3 in top 10 alone in Fighter rank that couldn't fly out of a paper bag without help from a dozen squadies. I don't recall seeing you once in the DA in the past 3 weeks.
/Not saying I am any good, probably 1/25 in the DA in past week alone
The contestants:
TwinTail
Bruv119
Snailman
DimMak
SirNuke
Wmaker
Joachim
Debrody
m00t
DrBone
And now we want the names of those three you have in mind - Who will win Butcher's Wet Paperbag Award in gold, silver or bronze? :D
:rofl
Side note: score tarding actually has benefits! :banana:
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BillyD - too much :rofl
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:) I'm available anytime butcher :D
Side note: score tarding actually has benefits! :banana:
Snail posted the list of those who can fly a paper bag around most score tards, I posted those who couldn't dogfight a paper bag :D
At least I got 3 names off Snail, and Joach1m you wern't one of them :D
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Snail posted the list of those who can fly a paper bag around most score tards, I posted those who couldn't dogfight a paper bag :D
At least I got 3 names off Snail, and Joach1m you wern't one of them :D
I misread the post....so I edited it :lol
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The contestants:
TwinTail
Bruv119
Snailman
DimMak
SirNuke
Wmaker
Joachim
Debrody
m00t
DrBone
And now we want the names of those three you have in mind - Who will win Butcher's Wet Paperbag Award in gold, silver or bronze? :D
Butcher ... the obvious weak link in that list is that "Snailman" guy ... even if you wet that paper bag, he could fight his way out. Choose him for sure.
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Butcher ... the obvious weak link in that list is that "Snailman" guy ... even if you wet that paper bag, he could fight his way out. Choose him for sure.
Just thought of something, what if we had a dog fighters tournament broken down into 3 Brackets, expert bracket would obviously be the top 12 pilots hand picked by the pilots themselves, 24 pilots would be in a Intermediate bracket (or enough to fill it up) where every tour 2 pilots from the Intermediate go up, and a beginners bracket for anyone not named in the top 2 brackets.
I would be interested to set this up if anyone wanted to take it serious enough.
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Butcher meant to say top ten overall, I see a couple names I haven't seen before up there :headscratch:
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Butcher meant to say top ten overall, I see a couple names I haven't seen before up there :headscratch:
Looked pretty specific to me ...
I can name at least 3 in top 10 alone in Fighter rank that couldn't fly out of a paper bag without help from a dozen squadies.
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Looked pretty specific to me ...
I can name at least 3 in top 10 alone in Fighter rank that couldn't fly out of a paper bag without help from a dozen squadies.
I know, but pm's clarified to me that he meant to say "top Ten overall"
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im in the top 100 sometimes, and im not even real sure what a wet paper bag is :uhoh
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im in the top 100 sometimes, and im not even real sure what a wet paper bag is :uhoh
You and I have had a few good fights, Irish. Your aim is about as bad as mine, too :)
I did a compression/save test a little while back. You might remember the fight:
http://www.vimeo.com/22503224
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im in the top 100 sometimes, and im not even real sure what a wet paper bag is :uhoh
I think it's a expression for "not being able to hold their own"
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I feel honored that my thread got jacked :banana: :rofl :aok
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I feel honored that my thread got jacked :banana: :rofl :aok
nice Kamakazi into my tank last night Rogent, feel honored you are willing to trash your lovely P51D into my tank!
Wait what was the thread about again? mmm cake
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Still you will always be known for being in Manawar's Squad, and so you know - the top 50 doesn't mean squat, I can name at least 3 in top 10 alone in Fighter rank that couldn't fly out of a paper bag without help from a dozen squadies. I don't recall seeing you once in the DA in the past 3 weeks.
/Not saying I am any good, probably 1/25 in the DA in past week alone
just means they have the best K/D.so is kinda does
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The ki-84 or "frank" is an excellent plane with a slightly higher learning curve than most. I say that cause of it's compressibility and speed specifications for top performance. Its always about the pilot, never the plane but all things being equal the frank should be able to win a knife fight with a jug. Only because of it's raw climb ability at slower speeds and acceleration. Having said that, the jug is no slouch. It is faster, zooms better and retains e better but most importantly it stops faster. That with it's dive ability can give any plane and any pilot a hard time if worked properly. It's about getting the kill on the first or second gun pass, but that's the game isn't it?
I'm bored at work, just my two cents from my experience.
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Its always about the pilot, never the plane
That's never the case.
You can no more separate the aircraft performance from the equation than you can the pilot skill. You should consider both multipliers of the effectiveness of the other. Anything else is a little arrogant (to presume it's all about skill when sometimes... it just isn't) IMO.
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just means they have the best K/D
A very common misconception. That's why many players go for high K/D at all costs and wonder why their rank doesn't go up ;)
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I just had an incredible fight with Bluedeth this morning.....
SALUTE BLUEDETH....
Pony D vs P47......Started out as a pseudo E fight then got down in the weeds.
My only regrets are that someone came in and got him....and ..... film was NOT on....ratz!
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Butcher meant to say top ten overall, I see a couple names I haven't seen before up there :headscratch:
High overall rank mostly means you are an "allround player". Many are very good in their respective areas, but do not care for other aspects of the game. You may be the best dogfighter, but if you never fly boring bombers and do not care about GV's, your overall rank will always be lousy. (Not that it matters anyway ;) ) Fly a single bomber sortie and see you rank # go up by 1000 or more.
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Butcher ... the obvious weak link in that list is that "Snailman" guy ... even if you wet that paper bag, he could fight his way out. Choose him for sure.
Actually I know that Snailguy is avoiding wet paper bags at all costs. He has no squaddies who could help him out, so being trapped in one would in fact be a death sentence to him :uhoh
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High overall rank mostly means you are an "allround player". Many are very good in their respective areas, but do not care for other aspects of the game. You may be the best dogfighter, but if you never fly boring bombers and do not care about GV's, your overall rank will always be lousy. (Not that it matters anyway ;) ) Fly a single bomber sortie and see you rank # go up by 1000 or more.
Very true I'm useless as a gv'er
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I think it's a expression for "not being able to hold their own"
i gotta get better with the sarcasm........i guess i lay it on too thin sometimes :lol
my dad has been using that expression since i was wee, i.e. "You little pussbag, you couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper sack!"
srry for the hijacked comments Rogent <S> bro
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i gotta get better with the sarcasm........i guess i lay it on too thin sometimes :lol
my dad has been using that expression since i was wee, i.e. "You little pussbag, you couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper sack!"
srry for the hijacked comments Rogent <S> bro
I'm a bit slow as well do that doesn't help
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You and I have had a few good fights, Irish. Your aim is about as bad as mine, too :)
I did a compression/save test a little while back. You might remember the fight:
http://www.vimeo.com/22503224
:D depends on the day. sometimes i don't miss, sometimes i never hit, but on average i maintain a 10-11% hit rate in fighters. speaking of compression, i have a video from the TA of me in a 40k P47; i dove approx 30k at full throttle and WEP, and was able to pull out of it using the trim, without backing off the sauce. 109s will do this too, just dont pull those wings off :D
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a ki84 should never cream a p47M or any model of the 47.just know how to fly one and you will do good.
ps-I'd love to take you on in any plane vs my D-40
Damn, I must be good then. Why did no one let me in on this???? :(
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Right, that's it, next time I am going to lose my wing on the first pass Rogent. :)
j/k, I do like the fights I get in and commonly lose, and someday I will get a shot off against you, which would be the best step towards actually manging to shoot you down I suppose....
This whole k/d thing, which side am I supposed to have more of?
Bob
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I R t3h l33t, b0w t0 m3, dw33bz.
Ki84 pwns all.. except maybe the spit16 if the spit16 pilot is uber.
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I don't mind it was jacked, I find it rather more interesting when people bring out the purses that just happen to be on a thread I made :aok
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I R t3h l33t, b0w t0 m3, dw33bz.
Ki84 pwns all.. except maybe the spit16 if the spit16 pilot is uber.
spit 5.....spit 8.....I find if the pilot is good they are much harder then the 16.....I would guess though those planes attract the better sticks.
the 47 is a no issue at all if the E states are any where near even...hell ill give the E advantage to the 47 and still think the 84 will eat it alive...unless the stick is a great shot, that beats all.
That's never the case.
You can no more separate the aircraft performance from the equation than you can the pilot skill. You should consider both multipliers of the effectiveness of the other. Anything else is a little arrogant (to presume it's all about skill when sometimes... it just isn't) IMO.
100% agree....but I don't think the outcome of a fight is 50/50 pilot-skill/plane, I would say more along the 70/30 pilot-skill/plane....but initial advantage is more determining then then plane or pilot...and Aiming ability is more of a factor then all the above.
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spit 5.....spit 8.....I find if the pilot is good they are much harder then the 16.....I would guess though those planes attract the better sticks.
the 47 is a no issue at all if the E states are any where near even...hell ill give the E advantage to the 47 and still think the 84 will eat it alive...unless the stick is a great shot, that beats all.
100% agree....but I don't think the outcome of a fight is 50/50 pilot-skill/plane, I would say more along the 70/30 pilot-skill/plane....but initial advantage is more determining then then plane or pilot...and Aiming ability is more of a factor then all the above.
I'm not sure about the spit5.. Ki84 would eat it in hang time. Spit8 though has an identical climb rate and better turn radius than the spit16. 109G2 and maybe the G14 on WEP are worthy.. K4 just can't stick w/ the Ki84s maneuverability though.. unless you're Grizz of course.
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I'm not sure about the spit5.. Ki84 would eat it in hang time. Spit8 though has an identical climb rate and better turn radius than the spit16. 109G2 and maybe the G14 on WEP are worthy.. K4 just can't stick w/ the Ki84s maneuverability though.. unless you're Grizz of course.
ya true...one day in the MA I got into a real good fight with a K4....me being in the 84, this guy in the K4 was really pouring it on, made some great moves, but the K4 just couldn't quite hang with the 84.....when I got the kill..it was a Muppet well known for his K4 flyin... :D
definitely always get the best fights from my squadies :aok
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the 47 is a no issue at all if the E states are any where near even...hell ill give the E advantage to the 47 and still think the 84 will eat it alive...unless the stick is a great shot, that beats all.
:headscratch: :joystick: :t
JUGgler
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:headscratch: :joystick: :t
JUGgler
lol JUGgler topics as such dont apply to you, ive seen ya fly enough to know you defy gravity at times and leave many puzzled :aok
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I had a nice fight wit Ink the other night I was in a p47M and he in the Ki..... fun fight but its only a matter of time before the Ki wins.
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I had a nice fight wit Ink the other night I was in a p47M and he in the Ki..... fun fight but its only a matter of time before the Ki wins.
Wasn't it you and I who had that great fight (Yak vs 51) that went from high alt to in the weeds? It ended when I accidently lost half my wing to either a tree or a bush :rofl
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Yes sir thank gawd for trees awesome fight and no one bothered us. wooooot
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if they have more e on you,and they are gaining rapidly,what would u do?cut throttle and keep going,stay full throttle and turn away,cut throttle and corkscrew,or just hope hes a terrible shot and misses you all together.from my experience in the jug,i'd say 7/10 times i kill the E fighter.whether it be a p51,38,ki84,or a spit.
A smart pilot would maneuver to force the overshoot and reversal on the attacking bandit. I know when vulching a 2nd account it's hard to do these tricky things called ACM...
ack-ack
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a ki84 should never cream a p47M or any model of the 47.just know how to fly one and you will do good.
ps-I'd love to take you on in any plane vs my D-40
Wrong.
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A smart pilot would maneuver to force the overshoot and reversal on the attacking bandit. I know when vulching a 2nd account it's hard to do these tricky things called ACM...
ack-ack
:rofl
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A smart pilot would maneuver to force the overshoot and reversal on the attacking bandit. I know when vulching a 2nd account it's hard to do these tricky things called ACM...
ack-ack
:rofl :aok
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I apologize for responding late. A huge :salute to Rogent, that fight was fun, u threw the fat girl around great, picks happen and i have gotten use to them, picks happen cuz of my bad SA or people who ignore a " stay out " call. I am by no means a good stick, ask debrody Who smoked me 5 straight, but i will try to fight most of the time unless the odds get outlandish, IMO 3+ vs 1.
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I apologize for responding late. A huge :salute to Rogent, that fight was fun, u threw the fat girl around great, picks happen and i have gotten use to them, picks happen cuz of my bad SA or people who ignore a " stay out " call. I am by no means a good stick, ask debrody Who smoked me 5 straight, but i will try to fight most of the time unless the odds get outlandish, IMO 3+ vs 1.
3vs1 out outlandish....damn someone should tell those guys that in the MA's.........Ive seen 15-20vs1 :rofl
and then they brag about killing you :rofl
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I have seen 5+, 10+ vs 1 as well, i should have stated 3v1 before i try to run or hide in ack, which i will do, but that is my style. :salute