Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tupac on May 05, 2011, 09:16:58 PM

Title: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 05, 2011, 09:16:58 PM
Is a dang eyesore. It is definitely the ugliest thing near New Braunfels

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/230195_1706706707993_1247804014_31428731_8243608_n.jpg)

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Texas-school-unveils-nation-s-first-red-turf-hig?urn=highschool-306272
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Pigslilspaz on May 05, 2011, 09:19:59 PM
My girlfriend just said it looks like a PSP  :rofl

I couldn't agree more
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Spikes on May 05, 2011, 09:22:19 PM
My girlfriend just said it looks like a PSP  :rofl

I couldn't agree more
This.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tordon22 on May 05, 2011, 09:22:57 PM
Eastern Washington university has the same thing. Not a fan.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 05, 2011, 09:26:49 PM
Eastern Washington university has the same thing. Not a fan.

Theres a big quarry about 12 miles southeast, and even it isnt as ugly as this football field. The picture doesnt do it justice, I took it with a cellphone. It's MUCH uglier IRL (Kinda like girls on the internet)
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: fudgums on May 05, 2011, 09:28:48 PM
I <3 it
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 05, 2011, 09:33:51 PM
It's not on the pretty side of New Braunfels either. New Braunfels sits on the coastal plain and the Edwards plateau. The plateau is the hill country, but the coastal plain is the farm fields, which are brown ATM because we havent had any rain. If the scenery around it was nicer looking, maybe it would be more tolerable. The NB Unicorns have blue inzones but they dont bother me because they are up in the pretty hill country.


/rant
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: icepac on May 05, 2011, 09:53:59 PM
I guess the 7 people who regularly fly there are the only people exposed to the horror.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 05, 2011, 09:57:25 PM
I guess the 7 people who regularly fly there are the only people exposed to the horror.

You're right. The school fired 12 teachers last year, but they still had enough moeny to put in New turf, and a $200,000 elevator so the fat announcers didnt have to walk up the stairs.

Makes me mad, the only thing people care about in Texas is football.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: mthrockmor on May 05, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
Boise State football and their incredibly ugly 'smurf turf.' It is deep blue, not red but just as ugly.

Boo
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: 1sum41 on May 05, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
You're right. The school fired 12 teachers last year, but they still had enough moeny to put in New turf, and a $200,000 elevator so the fat announcers didnt have to walk up the stairs.

Makes me mad, the only thing people care about in Texas is football.
here in Georgetown we spent approximately 1.5 million dollars on our football stadium. $250,000 of that was on the Megatron. (http://amfootball.isport.com/Image.ashx?rs=440x330&dir=images\Picture&File=Img_1077692_419228.jpg)
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: oakranger on May 05, 2011, 10:19:11 PM
El Dorado, Kansas track is blue.  Ugly at best to described it. 
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 05, 2011, 10:29:41 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 05, 2011, 10:35:10 PM
Our football coaches make about twice as much as the the teachers.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: oakranger on May 05, 2011, 10:37:36 PM
Our football coaches make about twice as much as the the teachers.

That is Texas for you. 
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Masherbrum on May 05, 2011, 10:43:26 PM
Our football coaches make about twice as much as the the teachers.

It speaks volumes.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: 1sum41 on May 05, 2011, 10:52:58 PM
Our football coaches make about twice as much as the the teachers.
Its the same thing at our school.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Shifty on May 06, 2011, 08:36:34 AM
That is Texas for you. 

Hmm



El Dorado, Kansas track is blue.  Ugly at best to described it.  

The quality of writing you regularly display must make the teachers in the state of Kansas very proud. :lol
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Shuffler on May 06, 2011, 09:17:17 AM
Any field that is not green should never have TV cameras there.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Banshee7 on May 06, 2011, 09:38:07 AM
Any field that is not green should never have TV cameras there.

I agree! 
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on May 06, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
Eye of Sauron
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Vudak on May 06, 2011, 11:25:57 AM
Our football coaches make about twice as much as the the teachers.

And how much more revenue do they bring in than teachers?

Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2011, 11:34:43 AM
And how much more revenue do they bring in than teachers?



One of my neighbors is a teacher there, with them for five years and she makes 46,000 a year. The football coach is new this year, and he makes 100k a year.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Reschke on May 06, 2011, 11:45:19 AM
Revenue at a high school is WAY more insignificant than at a college/university. There is only so much dollars that are available in small towns. However its not just limited to Texas where the coaches make tremendous amounts of money. We had a coach here in Alabama that was "released" from his job at Spain Park (a 6A high school) and got another job at Pell City (a 5A high school) making the same amount of money that he did at the 6A school.

As for the others I can honestly say that if it wasn't for a guy from a whole different community that we in our town wouldn't have the turf field at Vestavia Hills high school football and baseball field or the super cool surface at the track around the football field. This guy donated with matching funds to track and sports programs all over the Birmingham metro area to upgrade facilities. Also at my son's school he goes to next year the coaches are all teachers first and foremost and yes they also coach. Our AD/head coach has been here for probably 40 years now and just a few years ago was bumped up in pay to over 100k. It was a significant bump from what I was told but it was done because of time in the positions and the level of academic and athletic success that we have had with our players in all sports.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Vudak on May 06, 2011, 12:29:38 PM
One of my neighbors is a teacher there, with them for five years and she makes 46,000 a year. The football coach is new this year, and he makes 100k a year.

No offense, but I think you're doing a pretty good job of proving your point :)

(You seem to have misread my question).

Reschke - obviously it will be less than college, but in a town where football is king, it can still get a lot of money moving.  It is an excuse for people to go out on the town, rather than stay in.  Local establishments likely see an uptick on game nights, concession sales, hell, gas stations, etc...
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2011, 12:45:28 PM
You asked how much money they made? I don't think I misread it.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Dichotomy on May 06, 2011, 12:52:59 PM
It's MUCH uglier IRL (Kinda like girls on the internet)


 :lol :rofl  :lol :rofl


Makes me mad, the only thing people care about in Texas is football.

WHOA!!! tap on the brakes Tup.

We care about beer, guns, wimmen, and horses too.  :D
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Vudak on May 06, 2011, 12:53:56 PM
You asked how much money they made? I don't think I misread it.

No, I asked this:

"And how much more revenue do they bring in than teachers?"

As in how much more money do they bring into the community than the teachers bring into the community?
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: whiteman on May 06, 2011, 01:00:06 PM
No, I asked this:

"And how much more revenue do they bring in than teachers?"

As in how much more money do they bring into the community than the teachers bring into the community?

And that would be why smal town football coaches can make money.

And if that makes you cry how about this for Allen High School near Dallas. $60 Million for a Stadium.
http://www.wvmetronews.com/sports.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=45226&type=Chip (http://www.wvmetronews.com/sports.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=45226&type=Chip)
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2011, 01:07:14 PM
If you are asking how much money they spend inside the community, then they definitely bring more than the teachers. A smithson valley ASSISTANT coach just moved in right next to us in a house that was listed for 400,000. A teacher couldn't afford a house that expensive.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Dichotomy on May 06, 2011, 01:24:17 PM
never mind *shakes head*
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2011, 01:25:55 PM
never mind *shakes head*


?
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Dichotomy on May 06, 2011, 01:38:13 PM
I was going to say something about how revenue brought in by sports should be more freely shared with the schools where we send our children for an EDUCATION but really don't have the energy for the argument.  Not to mention that's kind of cutting my own throat because light poles are part of new and upgrade packages for these high school mega stadiums.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Rattler on May 06, 2011, 01:53:54 PM
Why the hell do some high schools have these huge mega stadiums? I really don't get it.... and Jesus millions of dollars? why don't they spend it on education!!!
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2011, 02:09:07 PM
Why the hell do some high schools have these huge mega stadiums? I really don't get it.... and Jesus millions of dollars? why don't they spend it on education!!!

Because football is more important. Who cares about education? Now footballs, thems entertainment!
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Vudak on May 06, 2011, 02:41:55 PM
If you are asking how much money they spend inside the community, then they definitely bring more than the teachers. A smithson valley ASSISTANT coach just moved in right next to us in a house that was listed for 400,000. A teacher couldn't afford a house that expensive.

You're still not getting it.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2011, 02:45:31 PM
You're still not getting it.

Then elaborate. I'm still dont understand what youre asking.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Vudak on May 06, 2011, 02:54:08 PM
Then elaborate. I'm still dont understand what youre asking.


I asked this:

"And how much more revenue do they bring in than teachers?"

Revenue = money.  To "bring in" would imply "earn for the community"

So let's rephrase:

How much more money [does a football coach] earn for the community than teachers?

If the football program is good, and people want to go out and watch it, you get several sources of revenue:

- Ticket sales
- Concessions
- Gifts/Donations
- Increased restaurant business (hey, let's all go out for pizza, etc.)
- Increased local business in general (need to fill up the tank, get a soda, rent a room, etc).

All of which you may very well NOT earn if the football program is bad, and people would rather stay at home.

In other words, the football coach can be an economic asset to your community immediately.  Viewed as such, it is not impossible to see why a community might choose to invest in one.

Are you following me now?
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: whiteman on May 06, 2011, 02:57:06 PM
Why the hell do some high schools have these huge mega stadiums? I really don't get it.... and Jesus millions of dollars? why don't they spend it on education!!!

Because thats where a bunch of the money comes from for the school, their stadiums are full every week and turn away thousands. Some of these schools are the only one in the district so the tax base is very small. Want new computers and updated science labs, money out there for that comes from football.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2011, 03:16:40 PM
Ahh, I understand now. No, the only time the stadium is even remotely full is at the Wurstbowl every year.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Babalonian on May 06, 2011, 03:35:16 PM
I was going to say something about how revenue brought in by sports should be more freely shared with the schools where we send our children for an EDUCATION but really don't have the energy for the argument.  Not to mention that's kind of cutting my own throat because light poles are part of new and upgrade packages for these high school mega stadiums.

It's been discussed before, it can set some bad presidents across the country last I understood.  Some regions have piss-poor funding for their sports and athletic teams, like games get canceled because there's no money to be found to put gas in the buses, and some regions have piss-poor funding for everything but their sports and athletics.  So yeah it makes sence that a grant or donaton of $1-mill for sports and athletics in a place that usually doesnt have funding problems for sports and athletics should have a chunk go to academics, but lets say it's a public school in South Central that hasn't had new equipment, a functioning irrigation system, or night lighting so they can play at night durign the summer on their football field for 10-20 years and they get a donation that's just small enough to get them equipment that meets current standards for their players, enough lighting to see the field at night, and some imporvements to the field so they'll have green grass to play on for a few years to come. 
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Dichotomy on May 06, 2011, 03:39:35 PM
Bab

I'm all for adequate funding for all high school sports and extracurricular activities.  What makes me raise an eyebrow is when they're funding multi million dollar facilities and yet teachers salaries, classroom equipment, and so on isn't properly funded by the same schools.  Of course every 'fix' is a slippery slope and can quickly degenerate into a political discussion which I avoid like the plague. 

Again, I make a decent living designing light poles for these facilities, me making a stink is being a tad hypocritical don't you think?
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Spikes on May 06, 2011, 03:43:36 PM
Bab

I'm all for adequate funding for all high school sports and extracurricular activities.  What makes me raise an eyebrow is when they're funding multi million dollar facilities and yet teachers salaries, classroom equipment, and so on isn't properly funded by the same schools.  Of course every 'fix' is a slippery slope and can quickly degenerate into a political discussion which I avoid like the plague. 

Again, I make a decent living designing light poles for these facilities, me making a stink is being a tad hypocritical don't you think?
Not at all. You designing them has nothing to do with the outrageous spending they do.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Wildcat1 on May 06, 2011, 04:32:09 PM
here in Georgetown we spent approximately 1.5 million dollars on our football stadium. $250,000 of that was on the Megatron. (http://amfootball.isport.com/Image.ashx?rs=440x330&dir=images\Picture&File=Img_1077692_419228.jpg)

ah, Texas high school football....
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: M0nkey_Man on May 06, 2011, 04:35:00 PM
My girlfriend just said it looks like a PSP  :rofl

I couldn't agree more
:rofl, it does
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Babalonian on May 06, 2011, 04:48:17 PM
Bab

I'm all for adequate funding for all high school sports and extracurricular activities.  What makes me raise an eyebrow is when they're funding multi million dollar facilities and yet teachers salaries, classroom equipment, and so on isn't properly funded by the same schools.  Of course every 'fix' is a slippery slope and can quickly degenerate into a political discussion which I avoid like the plague. 

Again, I make a decent living designing light poles for these facilities, me making a stink is being a tad hypocritical don't you think?

I agree but I get where you're comming from.  I can and wouldn't mind raising a stink over the condition of LAUSD academics or teachers benefits if they got a huge athletic grant until my face turned blue (and their athletics does need it too).  I'm in the landscape design buisness and we're one of the older companies and have done lots of work for LAUSD before and for sure it would give us some of the work, IE: right now we're doing new/renovating sports fields for two LACCs and on "the in" to be fast-tracked as the landscape designers for a new Metro bus station and a natural-turf football field at one of the above LACCs.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Ardy123 on May 06, 2011, 05:08:19 PM
One of my neighbors is a teacher there, with them for five years and she makes 46,000 a year. The football coach is new this year, and he makes 100k a year.

And when you all graduate from High School, you will have joined the nfl right? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

and we wonder why our education is fluffied up.... look at our priorities.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Babalonian on May 06, 2011, 05:18:14 PM
Was google-earthing the new HTC office location to take a gander at where they moved to and noticed a high-school just a mile away to the West.  The fields are so well maintained you can clearly read the numbers, lettering and yard lines on the field at a scale that you can also see downtown Ft. Worth and HTC's new office in the same view.  You know how to spot one in the metropolitan LA area at a public school and at that same scale of distance?  Look for bleachers linning the edges of a giant brown spot or, if it's windy, where the large plumes of dust originate from amongst the seas of concrete and asphault.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Dichotomy on May 06, 2011, 06:28:31 PM
Bab,

Good to see we're on the same page  :aok  That'd be Keller High School football stadium.  That's not even one of the biggies around here and thus some of my frustration.

In other news HTC's new office is only 9.5 miles from mine  :devil  *makes note to see if some of the folks there are interested in lunch some Friday. 
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: whiteman on May 06, 2011, 08:19:47 PM
You know how to spot one in the metropolitan LA area at a public school and at that same scale of distance?  Look for bleachers linning the edges of a giant brown spot or, if it's windy, where the large plumes of dust originate from amongst the seas of concrete and asphault.

I couldn't believe in how bad of shape the fields were in when i was out their last September. You were Cali football mentioned with texas so i was expecting big nice fields. it was the complete opposite.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: icepac on May 06, 2011, 09:17:44 PM
I've heard that the red field was necessary to shield the spectators from suffering the trauma of having witnessed the effects of the horrible whuppins' that team hands out.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: Tupac on May 06, 2011, 09:55:36 PM
I've heard that the red field was necessary to shield the spectators from suffering the trauma of having witnessed the effects of the horrible whuppins' that team hands out.

Are we talking about Canyon? They only won 3 games last year. They suck.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: icepac on May 07, 2011, 12:17:15 AM
Then it must be thier blood that is being hidden from the fans.
Title: Re: The red football field everyone saw on yahoo news........
Post by: M0nkey_Man on May 07, 2011, 12:38:32 AM
And when you all graduate from High School, you will have joined the nfl right? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

and we wonder why our education is fluffied up.... look at our priorities.
i had a choice between baseball or jrotc, chose the jrotc  :aok