Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: redman555 on May 08, 2011, 09:10:36 PM

Title: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: redman555 on May 08, 2011, 09:10:36 PM
Ok so got my first rifle, a mosin nagant >.> yeah yeah, anyways.  I am new to this rifle stuff, ive been firing shotguns for like 8 years now. How exactly do you know if a scope can handle a certain guns recoil? I was thinking about getting this except the 4-12x version. How do I find out if its gonna break when I fire it? lol  This is just for range shooting, not planning on hunting.

http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Pentax-3-9x40mm-Gameseeker-Rifle-Scope/productDetail/Rifle-Scopes/prod9999012147/cat100738

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: F22RaptorDude on May 08, 2011, 09:19:33 PM
I didn't know there was a limit on scopes? I figured they were all built sturdy and rugged?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: redman555 on May 08, 2011, 09:30:37 PM
I didn't know there was a limit on scopes? I figured they were all built sturdy and rugged?  :headscratch:

That is what I though..and I called my grandfather and he said he had never heard of a thing. He hunted and shot guns for like 60 years. So I think the guy may of just been BSing me to get me to spend more? I didnt buy anything though.

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Spikes on May 08, 2011, 09:31:32 PM
The only thing you can do is knock the crosshairs off but even that takes a hell of a lot.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: redman555 on May 08, 2011, 09:37:04 PM
The only thing you can do is knock the crosshairs off but even that takes a hell of a lot.

Do you think the ones I linked would be sufficient for 100-300 yard shooting? Im only doing range, so.

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Spikes on May 08, 2011, 09:41:24 PM
Yes. I have a Leupold 3-9 (Imo one of the best brands) on my Model 70 .308 that has a pretty good zoom @ 300yds. I mean if you want the tgt to fill the crosshair you're going to need something with more power, but I have a good shot on a deer @ 300yds with my scope.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Masherbrum on May 08, 2011, 10:30:35 PM
When one thread isn't good enough, create another.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Becinhu on May 08, 2011, 10:37:27 PM
If it has a chrome barrel good luck sighting it in.  You won't be driving nails with it.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Reschke on May 08, 2011, 10:47:42 PM
You would be fine with that scope. Just about the only thing I have ever seen happen to a scope...even the crappy, lowest price ones; is when someone drops the rifle and the scope hits first. Then its only an occasional problem.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Maverick on May 08, 2011, 11:34:57 PM
As long as you avoid the really cheap imported no name scopes you should be fine. The recoil on a nagant isn't that severe, the stock design just passes it on to you more harshly than a better designed stock with a recoil pad.

Look for at least a Bushnell, think of that as the bottom of the pile. A Leupold would be much better but will be significant bucks. A Redfield is a good brand and is back in production.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: LThunderpocket on May 09, 2011, 12:45:13 AM
well if your using a Mosin.I dunno how you will mount that scope on it.I've got a 91/30 but i just use iron sights.if you ask me,the only gun you dont put a scope on is an elephant gun,i put a nice 120$ scope on mine and the scope not only left a ring around my eye,but the glass broke inside of it.a simpe 7.62 wont break a scope unless its made of dirt
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: RichardDarkwood on May 09, 2011, 06:29:09 AM
Really? you need a scope????

Don't be a scope dweeb, use the iron sights. Whatever you put that cross hair on you will hit.


Or go out and buy yourself a Springfield M1A1 and stop playing around ! :bolt:
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Ghosth on May 09, 2011, 07:33:45 AM
Actually I knew a guy who had a .300 weatherby mag that kept knocking the mounts loose, scope would "drift" out of position. Gunsmith eventually welded the mounts in place. Last I heard the scope itself had been taking the beating for something like 10 years with no issues.

I very much doubt that M/N is going to have that kind of recoil.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Nefarious on May 09, 2011, 09:15:10 AM
Really? you need a scope????

Don't be a scope dweeb, use the iron sights. Whatever you put that cross hair on you will hit.

+1

If you want a scope gun, buy a good hunting rifle. You will be much more pleased with the results than scoping your 91/30.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 09, 2011, 12:00:18 PM
My advice is to take that rifle to the range, work with the sights, and work the 100 to 200 yard ranges.  The Mosin Nagant is a fun rifle to own and shoot, you have a piece of history!

Forget the scope.  That is a battle rifle meant for an infantryman, keep it at that.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: 68Hawk on May 09, 2011, 01:43:05 PM
SmokinLoon said it best.

If you want a scope, just make sure it's rated for .30 cal.  Most good ones will be.  Avoid the pellet gun scopes from walmart and you should be ok.

Just remember, when you buy optics, you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Penguin on May 09, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
I have a question, what is the pronunciation of "Leupold"?  :headscratch:

Is is Loo poled? Or luy poled? Or leoo poled?

-Penguin
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Nefarious on May 09, 2011, 08:35:27 PM
leoo poled?

That's how I say it :)
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Golfer on May 09, 2011, 09:03:34 PM
I pronounce it Lou-Poled.  Lou as in Uncle Lou and Poled as in Poled.  It's what they call themselves in their own commercials so I figure that's the best way to go about it.

For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z7rFQGHIXs
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: mtnman on May 09, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
In general terms, the lower-recoil scopes are listed as being for .22's or BB/Pellet guns.  The ones without that limitation should be fine for any gun with mid-range recoil.

A scope is also more important than the rifle when it comes to accuracy.  Most rifles will shoot much better than most people are capable of without a decent scope.  As mentioned earlier, buy the best you can afford.

I wouldn't skimp when it comes to a scope for whatever rifle you have.  If you're going to invest in a scope, anything less than the best you can afford is a waste.  I say that because you'll probably own that scope for quite a while, and you'll never wish it was less-good than it is...  It can always be moved to a different rifle in the future, and you'll always want it to be the best it can be.

If the scope outclasses the rifle, that's ok.  If it doesn't, you'll be disappointed.

And of course, a top-notch scope won't perform well without a top-notch mount...

If funds are tight, skimp on the gun, not the scope.  Or wait until your funds are better.  I'd be seriously skeptical of a low-cost scope.  It's a good bet you'll be disappointed with it eventually.  
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: redman555 on May 09, 2011, 09:28:44 PM
The largest problem is that I need a very large eye relief scope. I found one on amazon for about 50 bucks. A few people commented and said they use it on their mosin and dont have problems so I guess I will give it a shot. its a 2x-7x.

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: PFactorDave on May 10, 2011, 07:46:04 PM
If I were going to put a scope on my Nagant, I would be looking for one of these...

http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/rifle-scope-mosin-military-wwii.htm
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: redman555 on May 10, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
If I were going to put a scope on my Nagant, I would be looking for one of these...

http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/rifle-scope-mosin-military-wwii.htm

If you got 400 spare bucks id gladly take it as a gift ;)

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: CAV on May 10, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
Hi


Try this ...........

http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/33792/Scout-Mount-Ordering-Information-and-Current-Availibility (http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/33792/Scout-Mount-Ordering-Information-and-Current-Availibility)

(http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL21/71676/2128482/33721087.jpg)

Works well on mine.

CAVALRY
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: redman555 on May 10, 2011, 09:35:54 PM
I would rather just use the 3/8 dovetail to connect the scope to the gun. When I remove the leaf sight its right there. I already bought a 2-9x long eye relief scope. Should be here within a week. Thanks though ;)

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: Mano on May 11, 2011, 02:41:02 PM


(http://valdefierro.com/rifleman239.jpg)

(http://valdefierro.com/rifleman237.jpg)

(http://valdefierro.com/rifleman241.jpg)


He didn't need a scope.   :D

 :aok
Title: Re: I need rifle people to come in here
Post by: mtnman on May 11, 2011, 09:38:46 PM


He didn't need a scope.   :D

 :aok

Man, I still watch that show!  I think he's almost good enough for real bullets now, too...