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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sundowner on May 09, 2011, 08:10:41 PM
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Ummm...Wow..just.....WOW. :eek:
Regards,
Sun
ISHINOMAKI, Japan – When water begins to trickle down the streets of her coastal neighborhood, Yoshiko Takahashi knows it is time to hurry home.
Twice a day, the flow steadily increases until it is knee-deep, carrying fish and debris by her front door and trapping people in their homes. Those still on the streets slosh through the sea water in rubber boots or on bicycle.
"I look out the window, and it's like our houses are in the middle of the ocean," says Takahashi, who moved in three years ago.
The March 11 earthquake that hit eastern Japan was so powerful it pulled the entire country out and down into the sea. The mostly devastated coastal communities now face regular flooding, because of their lower elevation and damage to sea walls from the massive tsunamis triggered by the quake.
In port cities such as Onagawa and Kesennuma, the tide flows in and out among crumpled homes and warehouses along now uninhabited streets.
A cluster of neighborhoods in Ishinomaki city is rare in that it escaped tsunami damage through fortuitous geography. So, many residents still live in their homes, and they now face a daily trial: The area floods at high tide, and the normally sleepy streets turn frantic as residents rush home before the water rises too high.
"I just try to get all my shopping and chores done by 3 p.m.," says Takuya Kondo, 32, who lives with his family in his childhood home.
Most houses sit above the water's reach, but travel by car becomes impossible and the sewage system swamps, rendering toilets unusable.
Scientists say the new conditions are permanent..........
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/09/quake-shifted-japan-towns-flood-high-tide/#ixzz1LuZUf8Xa
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:uhoh poor bastards.
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Why couldn't this happen to parts of California?
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Why couldn't this happen to parts of California?
Can't speak to southern California, but northern California is in an uplift situation where a large movement of the Pacific plate being shoved under causes California to be lifted higher. You can see the hill pattern this creates pretty clearly in the coastal areas of northern California where I grew up.
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Can't speak to southern California, but northern California is in an uplift situation where a large movement of the Pacific plate being shoved under causes California to be lifted higher. You can see the hill pattern this creates pretty clearly in the coastal areas of northern California where I grew up.
So, when the big one hits Cal, we will see the gound liquefied and slid into the ocean.
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So, when the big one hits Cal, we will see the gound liquefied and slid into the ocean.
Well, one interesting characteristic of the Cali situation is that in something like 6 million years, L.A. will be a suburb of San Fran. Pretty amazing what Mother Nature is capable of...
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Don't say that! I couldn't get far enough from LA if I wanted. (No offense to you folks out there, only had bad experiences while in SoCal)
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Guess the grass ain't greener on the other side.
Suppose I'll just tuff out the Michigan weather...
Coogan
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So, when the big one hits Cal, we will see the gound liquefied and slid into the ocean.
Of course not. Where do you get such absurd ideas?
Was Japan "liquefied"? Why would California be "liquefied"? It isn't like California hasn't had absolutely massive quakes in the past.
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Blahblahblahblah California. You do realize that the faults in California are chump change compared to New Madrid, right? If New Madrid ever REALLY went off, the entire country could be torn apart along the Mississippi River valley. That's not just a fault over here, New Madrid is a full-on rift zone.
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Amazing what happens in those tumultuous few seconds of a powerful quake.
New Madrid??? What about the molten rock under Yellowstone National Park. The large rolling hills southwest of there were created by huge amounts of water from the last time that erupted. Another game changer from Mother Nature.
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What about the molten rock under Yellowstone National Park. The large rolling hills southwest of there were created by huge amounts of water from the last time that erupted. Another game changer from Mother Nature.
Yep...
Researchers report the super-volcano underneath the state of Wyoming has been rising at a record rate since 2004. Its floor has gone up three inches per year for the last three years indicating the fastest rate since records began in 1923. Yellowstone Lake has been moving to the south...
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Yep...
Researchers report the super-volcano underneath the state of Wyoming has been rising at a record rate since 2004. Its floor has gone up three inches per year for the last three years indicating the fastest rate since records began in 1923. Yellowstone Lake has been moving to the south...
I wouldn't worry too much, the magma's still about 10 kilometers beneath the surface.
To quote this (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/01/110119-yellowstone-park-supervolcano-eruption-magma-science/):"At the beginning we were concerned it could be leading up to an eruption," said Smith, who co-authored a paper on the surge published in the December 3, 2010, edition of Geophysical Research Letters.
"But once we saw [the magma] was at a depth of ten kilometers, we weren't so concerned. If it had been at depths of two or three kilometers [one or two miles], we'd have been a lot more concerned."
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Amazing what happens in those tumultuous few seconds of a powerful quake.
New Madrid??? What about the molten rock under Yellowstone National Park. The large rolling hills southwest of there were created by huge amounts of water from the last time that erupted. Another game changer from Mother Nature.
I thought we were talking specifically about earthquakes, not volcanic hot spots. :-P
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I thought we were talking specifically about earthquakes, not volcanic hot spots. :-P
Discussions ebb and flow like the sands of time.
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I thought we were talking specifically about earthquakes, not volcanic hot spots. :-P
Since when has any thread on this BBS kept to the OP after even a few replies? :neener:
Back on subject:
It sux that even after the original disaster they have to now deal with daily flooding from tides that weren't an issue before. Maybe we could strap some rockets onto the Moon and push it a little farther away to lessen the tidal forces. It's already slowly getting farther away from the Earth, so why not give it a little bump. :D
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Have not the global warm...er climate change alarmists jumped on this disaster yet and said "SEE!!!!"???
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San Andreas is a slip fault, as someone said we're not going up or down in elevation, we're simply slipping merrily along it on our way up to San Fran.
There are however many smaller faults between the San Andreas and the coast that through collision and uplift have formed the various mountain ranges and valleys in the region, these are more prone to pushing houses closer into the ocean or up off its foundation.
In the Northeast the San Andreas and pacific rim go off-shore and hugs the coast, this area is not a slip area like the region south of San Fran to Baja, it is an uplift zone where the Pacific Plate has gone under the North American Plate due to Volcanic forces present in that region of the NA Plate (Nor Cal to the Sierras) that caused the Pacific Plate to take the low-road under it. As a result off the North coast a steep drop-off of the tidal shelf offshore occurs and the mountainous Northeast quarter of the state was formed from associated seismic activity of those plates.
From about middle-north (starting West of the North Sacramento Valley) all the way out East and Southeast to the Sierras and continueing up far North and into the Cascades and Canada is mostly Volcanic, including the long-dormant massive Mt. Shasta, CA the massive and active Mt. Lassen, CA and the infamously active and recently erupted Mt. St. Hellens, WA.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Cascade_Range_related_plate_tectonics-en.svg/440px-Cascade_Range_related_plate_tectonics-en.svg.png)
As for communities historicaly being effected by tidal and geographic changes, look up the Native Americans indiginous to the Channel Islands just a few miles off the Southern California coast, as well as North Western Native American Coastal tribes effected historicaly by tsunamis since before westerners and record keeping arrived.
To California specificaly, liquidfaction is not as signifigant or likely an issue as most populated areas are on more solid ground that those regions effected by it recently on the other side of the Pacific. That isn't to say they don't exist though, we know of plenty of areas that are built ontop of loose agrigates but they're particulates are much more coarce and heavier than IE: the very fine volcanic agrigate (very fine volcanic (light and pourous) sand) under parts of New Zealand. The hills though here in California aren't all bad though, due to the uplifting the bedrock is close to the surface in most areas, making for ideal pads to construct seismicly safe building foundations/pads and no worries about liquidfaction problems later.
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Also, whereas most of the U.S. plate activity revolves around subduction zones, most of the action in Mexico is in abduction zones...
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Have not the global warm...er climate change alarmists jumped on this disaster yet and said "SEE!!!!"???
I guess not, but some other idiots showed up
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:rofl
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Also, whereas most of the U.S. plate activity revolves around subduction zones, most of the action in Mexico is in abduction zones...
I've always meant to set aside some time to study the Mexican seduction zones and avoid abduction.
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Quote from: oakranger on Today at 12:54:02 AM
So, when the big one hits Cal, we will see the gound liquefied and slid into the ocean
Of course not. Where do you get such absurd ideas?
Was Japan "liquefied"? Why would California be "liquefied"? It isn't like California hasn't had absolutely massive quakes in the past.
I think this may be the "gound liquefied" that oak is talking about. And yes there is/was plenty of it going on in Japan.
Lots more clips in the YouTube sidebar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7-pzgYMm2E
Regards,
Sun
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About the New Madrid fault.....seen a report that it could of been a separate fault that caused the big quakes in the 1800's. Thought it might of been the Wabash fault around SE IL
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See Rule #14
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See Rule #14
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See Rule #14
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See Rule #14