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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Brooke on May 10, 2011, 01:13:34 AM
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A question for you (including -- perhaps especially -- if you tend not to fly in special events).
I run the "This Day in WWII" series of special events.
We'd love to have more people play in them, but I have a hard time getting more than about 40 people.
Do you have any suggestions on what would increase participation?
"This Day in WWII" events are like this, if you want more info before answering:
http://ahevents.org/events/this-day-in-wwii/602.html?task=view
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Its probably the nature of the "this day" beast. I would participate more but the timing is usually when I have to work, I feel this probably effects other non US players aswell. My suggestion would be to hold off until Saturday arvo to evening (scenarios permitting) and therefore have a larger pool of players that can attend.
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:cheers:
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That does look quite interesting. Just never checked it out before.
Coogan
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A question for you (including -- perhaps especially -- if you tend not to fly in special events).
I run the "This Day in WWII" series of special events.
We'd love to have more people play in them, but I have a hard time getting more than about 40 people.
Do you have any suggestions on what would increase participation?
"This Day in WWII" events are like this, if you want more info before answering:
http://ahevents.org/events/this-day-in-wwii/602.html?task=view
Thanks in advance for your input.
I've been thinking about coming back, I'll join some if I do.
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I tend to forget they are happening. I'd like to participate... nothing against the idea.... just old and forgetful. :)
Other than that, I have not participated to a point where i could have input.
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we have the same problem in the AvA arena and its a daily event lol The guys that run it have run some squad night challenges and that seems to get the numbers up. I dont know if you can increase the frequency of the events or not considering they are based off of specific days? maybe run them longer than just 2 hours? You may not get more that 40 at a time at first but more players would get a chance to participate and maybe make it a point to come back the next time.
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judging from shuffler's and 100coogn's posts one the best things you could do is advertise it more. Do the TDIH events have a splash screen message? (like those help messages that pop up when the arena is loading) if not maybe they should. You need some way to advertise these events to the large amount of players who don't log onto the forums, other than the MA system notice that starts to pop up 30 minutes before the event starts. Because these events are not a weekly thing like FSO or a large drawn out conflict like the scenarios, people might see the advert for this month's TDIH event but will forget about it by the time the day rolls around. (that is what happens for me.)
Good luck with it Brooke. I love these TDIH events when I remember to attend.
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I flew the event and liked the concept. What you could do to force players to fly together is to open the fields only once every 10mins, cause now its chaos unleashed :t
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A question for you (including -- perhaps especially -- if you tend not to fly in special events).
I run the "This Day in WWII" series of special events.
We'd love to have more people play in them, but I have a hard time getting more than about 40 people.
Do you have any suggestions on what would increase participation?
"This Day in WWII" events are like this, if you want more info before answering:
http://ahevents.org/events/this-day-in-wwii/602.html?task=view
Thanks in advance for your input.
I would love to participate in SE and FSO events, but I work a rotating night shift and tons of overtime (which is mandatory). or I would be there! A lot of us who are still working have fallen into the crevice of covering for our company's lack of sufficient workforce to make more profit scenario. It's not that the lack of interest but the lack of available time that forbids more participation. Keep the faith and continue with the EVENTS, someday we may actually be able to participate more as a whole. My personal thanks for the job you and all other event creators are doing for the community <S>!
All the Best...
Jay
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Do you have any suggestions on what would increase participation?
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Brooke
I was wondering if We could try and Accommodate the Players that are not in the US is it possible to run it more then Twice to grab the players who would be interested in flying these Events? I know it may be a pain but I also understand all the different timezones and Alot of player work Strange shifts as mentioned in a previous post including myself, the Past few events I have been lucky and was off but for the others I think it is harder for them.
As far as advertising it besides the Main forum and the Arena announcements I am not sure how else you could go about it to grab more players.
I enjoy them alot and one of the Reasons I still play the game for the different options we have here.
Salute
Crazy8s
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I flew the event and liked the concept. What you could do to force players to fly together is to open the fields only once every 10mins, cause now its chaos unleashed :t
I flew the first Coral Sea event, and I have to disagree that there was any negative effect from open fields. There was already a forced 7 min downtime after two deaths (something like that). I couldn't imagine waiting 17 mins for an opportunity to play, I would definitely log off and possibly forget about trying it again. That is one of the things that has driven me from other events. I don't pay to play and then sit forced to watch my monitor for longer than it takes me to grab some goodies from the ice box.
Brooke,
Most folks, that I know, would try your events just once and be hooked. The side objectives are very clear. Whether or not the players are able to organize their team / country is a challenge, not a downfall of the design, with the exception of radar information.
Icon suggestion: Radar is turned off and so is the sector bar. This is necessary to conceal the enemy movements, since sides can be switched (enabled to even sides). This forces everyone to fly right next to the friendly mission or else loose contact and wander about, using a great deal of chatter to report their own position and request position of others (WHAT A PAIN, not to mention this chatter is more informative than dar bar :rofl ).
Increase the friendly Icon range, put it right at the edge of where you would spot their dot even. Now, watch how a loose gang of rag tag mis fits from Haedes become a well oiled fighting machine. I will guarantee you EPIC battles, even with small number. Mostly because they will be better able to maximize their force's resources. Sure you will have some complaints about it being gamey. So what, this is a game. The bottom line should be how much fun, someone has when playing, not how well they overcame obstacles to meet a goal (that is what "work" is for).
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Simply a matter of timing for me.
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Could you have it done on friday nights where there is no FSO?
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It all a matter of timing..
As suggested by Oakranger...Friday night when there is no FSO would probably be suitable to most..
I personally don't fly during the week anymore..
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I, too, think running it Friday nights would increase the participation.
The only thing is, part of the main motivation of This Day in WWII is a commemoration of particular battles on the day they happened (like D-Day on June 6, Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7th, etc.) Also, there are already FSO's, Snapshots, and SEC's, so I don't think that we need duplicates of those.
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I run it at times that are accessible for Europeans and Americans already. If it isn't running on a weekend, I run it twice, once at about noon Eastern (i.e., 8 pm UK) and once in the evening US.
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There aren't a lot of avenues for more advertising of them. I use the message board, but I can't use the CM announcement functionality (that broadcasts into all arenas) more than about 1-2 times, and each announcement has to be about 3 lines, or I get yelled at by people for overusing that functionality.
I don't know of other ways available to me for getting the word out.
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I'm not sure what else to do other than keep doing what I have been doing (advertising on message board, making announcements 30 minutes prior to start, and asking people to help recruiting for these events) and hope that over time it has a positive impact. It certainly isn't having much impact in the short term.
Do folks think that if I made them squad-only, like FSO's, that it would help? I would then rely on squads to get the participation.
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do it during weekdays, alotta ppl logged in around 4pm-5pm alaska time
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Hey Brooke <S>
As you know back in the day they were called "special events". Mainly because they were special. What has happened in my view, is that there are so many events, they just arent as "special" any more. FSO pretty much covers anything extra I need from the game as far as realism and group effort go. Its at a time, late friday night, that I can make it, without much fuss, and long enough without being overwhelming.
Add in all the other small weekly events we have, and that for the larger events like scenarios, which people usually have to give up weekend afternoons for, and it just seems like too much effort now. My suggestion is that you guys take advantage of the off-firday of an FSO, which looks mainly like the last friday in the month at 11pm et. Lots of us end up making do in the MA that night, but are looking for a better thing to do.
Personally if it were up to me, Id remove all special events from the list, except FSO and KOTH, and focus all effort into large scenarios to make the player base hungry for them, all willing to attend.
These are just my opinions <S>
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Do folks think that if I made them squad-only, like FSO's, that it would help? I would then rely on squads to get the participation.
Hard to say. Try it and get people to help you get the word out.
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For what it's worth I work 12-13 hours a day and by the time I get home I have less than two hours to relax before I have to go to bed, wake up and do it again. Then on Saturday I have to get everything else done that I wasn't able to do during the week and finally on Sunday there's football or racing on TV. In my free time I squeeze a little time in AH.
In the end the likelyhood of you picking a time I'm free and then me actually knowing about it is slim. It's nothing you're doing wrong.
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There are probably more folks that feel this way, but in my opinion, ignore everything Filth just said. I loved the ease of being able to join your event on the day that it occured in history. With folk's interest in History Channel episodes, you already have a following. Many times I have enjoyed a history lesson on TV or in a newspaper or some other media, that peaks my interest in certain aircraft or battles. You may want to expand your announcements reference to specific literature on that topic, in that a lot of the AH2 players are avid readers also. I think that refreshing in their minds the name of a book that they may have enjoyed and might care to give another read, could go a long way in boosting discussion on the forums. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/board,520.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/board,520.0.html)
I am not alone either when I express a concern for dwindling numbers across the board. It is very important to me that events like these that you bring to us continue. You do an awesome job of putting these together, don't let anyone try and convince you they are not as "wanted". It was just what I needed to complete my AH2 experience to fly in the Coral Sea event this week, especially since the LW Off Hours map for Rooks was down to a few bases and no ports. Please read my suggestion in my previous post above.
After spending many years in the AvA arena, I can tell you first hand that 4 or 5 players in the right environment can be much more pleasurable than any other AH2 experience that you have had. Be willing to step apart from other events and set your own twists to your events instead of the standard FSO format. Make it historical, and above all make it fun. Don't concern yourself with the complainers, because you will find most wouldn't know a good thing, until everyone else told them how good it is (not directing this at all towards Filth - as he has pointed out he is not in favor of having more alternatives. So, he has no real input on how to improve numbers or awareness for your events).
I mean with stuff like this: http://ahevents.org/events/this-day-in-wwii.html (http://ahevents.org/events/this-day-in-wwii.html)
These events run on the following days with the times given on the Aces High calendar.
January 25, 1945: Battle of the Bulge
February 2, 1943: Battle of Stalingrad
March 7, 1942: Siege of Malta
April 18, 1942: Doolittle Raid
May 8, 1942: Battle of the Coral Sea
June 6, 1944: D-Day
July 9, 1943: Operation Husky
August 13, 1940: Battle of Britain (Adlertag)
September 7, 1942: Battle of Milne Bay
October 14, 1943: Black Thursday
November 8, 1942: Operation Torch
December 7, 1941: Pearl Harbor
:cheers: Brooke :salute
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I notice that this event starts at an awkward time for me. I may or may not have the same problem, but maybe a different time I would do it
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I forget usually. When I remember, it's too late.
Maybe( I suggested this before) Put day's event in MOTD!
<S> Oz
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MOTD about a week before saying there is a TDIH event coming up.
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Chilli..chill man.
Im not bashing Brooke at all. I know he lives for events. Im just saying the way I feel on how it used to be, to how it is now. Used to be meaning way back to AW days. Events were big deals and few and far between. Here there are so many I cant keep track of them. Thats all.
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I know nothing. But if you are looking for guesses, I would think that having it scheduled the same day every week, the same time, (or the same 2 different times for US and Euro's), would make it a bit more consistent and I for one would be more likely to schedule my time to accomodate it.
I know it is called, "This Day In History", but maybe, "This Week in History" would give you a bit more flexibility, allowing you to schedule that one day per week that we all could remember a little easier.
I also think that the FSO is the best the game has to offer. I would be very interested in other scenarios like you are putting together here.
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I know nothing. But if you are looking for guesses, I would think that having it scheduled the same day every week, the same time, (or the same 2 different times for US and Euro's), would make it a bit more consistent and I for one would be more likely to schedule my time to accomodate it.
I know it is called, "This Day In History", but maybe, "This Week in History" would give you a bit more flexibility, allowing you to schedule that one day per week that we all could remember a little easier.
I also think that the FSO is the best the game has to offer. I would be very interested in other scenarios like you are putting together here.
This Week in History would be much better, you could pick and choose from a wider variety of things and have a set time for people to log on and execute the event.
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This Week in History would be much better, you could pick and choose from a wider variety of things and have a set time for people to log on and execute the event.
Yep, Zoney nailed it.
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maybe trying the special events on Titanic Tuesday.