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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JUGgler on May 11, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
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Alright peeps, I've recieved many PMs and 200 comments on the 110c PWNing some, and most of them are not very nice :angel:
For those "put out" let me give you some advice and a little experience:
The 110c is slow, climbs poorly, accelerates horribly, rolls worse then a JU88, has a nasty stall and has terrible guns. It turns good and seems to be efficient at E retention. Sooooooo with that said----> IF you lose to it
IT IS YOUR FAULT
:salute
JUGgler
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Stang used to do the same thing with it way back when...... :)
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The guns are effective if you use them right. It will stall fight really well. At the end of this film it is demonstrated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr7SA7G8TXY
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I though you flew a P-47 110% of the time :headscratch:
:D
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I always feel like crap when I get owned by a 110... lol
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(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/110down.jpg)
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flying a 110c is like flying a big, fragile, but beautiful brewster. If you dont wanna get killed, you wont be killed by it.
Thats why its totally useless in the LW. Everyones just running away (spits too :cry)
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Juggler, in the right hands any plane can be pretty deceptive and flown right can be a deadly plane. Twice I flew against your 110c and let my guard down thinking an easy kill, I can only imagine how many you piss off in that thing :devil
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Juggler, in the right hands any plane can be pretty deceptive and flown right can be a deadly plane. Twice I flew against your 110c and let my guard down thinking an easy kill, I can only imagine how many you piss off in that thing :devil
This is the lesson for many, by the time you realize that you've grabbed a tiger by the tail it is most likely too late :aok Stick to the basics and don't take any situation for granted, you just might have grabbed a tiger who JUGgles :D
:salute
JUGgler
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110C owns. Come fly scenario with me Jug, 110C's vs P40s :P
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110C owns. Come fly scenario with me Jug, 110C's vs P40s :P
thats an early war setup, 110c against planes from its era.
It rocks.
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oh gawd...i knew it...you have to give them a chance jugler, otherwise they will scream obscenities when you break their toys.
i'm just glad i've learned not to take 110s for granted...wish i could handle them like some people do.
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Look at me, look at me! :rolleyes:
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Looking at your stats for this month you have 40 deaths and 38 kills in a 110c, I don't think it's something you should be proud off.
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Looking at your stats for this month you have 40 deaths and 38 kills in a 110c, I don't think it's something you should be proud off.
And stats mean? :aok
I get shot down plenty, has something to do with the fact I am a bottom dweller and not very good :old:
I'm quite sure "pride" as you put it is something you infer nothing I said :aok
JUGgler
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Looking at your stats for this month you have 40 deaths and 38 kills in a 110c, I don't think it's something you should be proud off.
He is almost doubling the total arena k/d of the 110C. I wouldn't use the word "pride" in cartoonland anyway, but a K/D of ~1 really ain't bad for such a ride in the LW arena. Far above average for sure :aok
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And stats mean? :aok
I get shot down plenty, has something to do with the fact I am a bottom dweller and not very good :old:
I'm quite sure "pride" as you put it is something you infer nothing I said :aok
JUGgler
So you really made this thread because you get so many people PMing you and complaining?
I apologize if I'm not right but I kinda figured you wanted to inform us of your new & successful ride.
Do you actually turnfight in it or BnZ?
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He is almost doubling the total arena k/d of the 110C. I wouldn't use the word "pride" in cartoonland anyway, but a K/D of ~1 really ain't bad for such a ride in the LW arena. Far above average for sure :aok
I'm sure if we all decided to take a 110c in the LW arena it's K/D would not be low. The thing is that no one really likes it and mostly noobs take it therefore giving it a low K/D.
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So you really made this thread because you get so many people PMing you and complaining?
I apologize if I'm not right but I kinda figured you wanted to inform us of your new & successful ride.
Do you actually turnfight in it or BnZ?
Everything about me is B&Z and nothing to be proud of :aok
JUGgler
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The thing is that no one really likes it and mostly noobs take it therefore giving it a low K/D.
that's not exactly correct machfly...with the 110g2 being faster and having better guns, it gets grabbed by noobs more than its little sister...aside from the curious that is. the few times i've run across 110c it's been someone who can fly damn near anything and make it dance...definitely not noobs.
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P40B > 110C :D
Always good fight Jugler
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I'm sure if we all decided to take a 110c in the LW arena it's K/D would not be low. The thing is that no one really likes it and mostly noobs take it therefore giving it a low K/D.
There is a good reason almost nobody takes it and "nobody really likes it". By and large, people tend to avoid low-performance planes giving them less chances to "win". And especially n00bs avoid the 110C, as it 110's are generally taken for air to ground work, and the C ain't very capable in that department compared to other fighters.
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P40B > 110C :D
Always good fight Jugler
Strokes > JUGgler :salute
JUGgler
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flying a 110c is like flying a big, fragile, but beautiful brewster. If you dont wanna get killed, you wont be killed by it.
Thats why its totally useless in the LW. Everyones just running away (spits too :cry)
That is correct.
If you can't out turn something, more than likely you can out run it.
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I fought against him in a Jug VS his C before we had a jugfest together for an awesome night a couple days ago (and i lost everytime). I flown the C4 before and I like everything about it except its poor guns and fragile airframe. At least its better than a zeke for the perk price. Juggler rocks in them... who knows, I might try to follow his path :angel:
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I fought against him in a Jug VS his C before we had a jugfest together for an awesome night a couple days ago (and i lost everytime). I flown the C4 before and I like everything about it except its poor guns and fragile airframe. At least its better than a zeke for the perk price. Juggler rocks in them... who knows, I might try to follow his path :angel:
You are on the right path, I saw U land 3 this morning in Tank Town and we were outnumbered :salute
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The 110C is great and all.. but the 110G2 just has that little bit more of a punch in the vertical which leads to many more kills. :devil
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You ENY 5 dweebs are awful harsh. Don't make me start looking up K/D's of some of you others.... Everybody dies, in everything they fly. GOOD NEWS is you get to up again!
My K/D in a Mossie, btw, is something I am proud of. Or let's put these things another way........
JUGler has an above average K/D in the C, same way I'm above average in the Mossie. Saying it like that though makes me realize i can always improve. THAT... Gives me something to do in this game I've been playing for almost 6 years.... get better at something I am already above average at. So JUGler, you can always get better in that C, or that Razorback you seem to enjoy so much. :rock
<S> JUGler <S>
The rest of you can also, always get better too..... In your Typhy's and Pony's and Spit's...... OH MY! :ahand
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I'll give Jug credit, he tried turnfighting my m3 zero the other night in the 110.... and made me work for the win, even though I held all the advantages at the onset ( He was on the deck and I dove on him) not to mention he came right back and forced me to ditch by shooting my rudder off with a nice snapshot! ~S~ sir
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Jug also has a 2.125 k/d in the P47N (not exactly a Spitfire. In fact, probably worse than a 110c for tnb base defense.). While flying it a numbers disadvantage, underneath all you bastages. Upside down! Just to make it interesting!
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someone remembers dastardly?
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someone remembers dastardly?
I remember it took about 15 minutes, 10,000 feet, ending in grindingly slow turning on the deck to kill his 110C with a damned C-Hog from a fair start. That's impressive.
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someone remembers dastardly?
Thats a name I haven't heard in a while. He used to play early hours like me back in the day. Anyone know if he still plays?
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Thats a name I haven't heard in a while. He used to play early hours like me back in the day. Anyone know if he still plays?
Never saw him after he said he was leaving. A good 110C pilot should be easy to spot :airplane:
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110c is one of the few planes that can pull up out of a 550mph+ dive and don't lose wings during pull-up.
a man's plane ( except jugler, when he is wearing his pink costume :lol )
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110c is one of the few planes that can pull up out of a 550mph+ dive and don't lose wings during pull-up.
a man's plane ( except jugler, when he is wearing his pink costume :lol )
I love pink. Soft, snuggly, warm and moist :D
JUGgler
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IIRC Dastardlys compuet broke and he is awaiting to get a new one. He was a good stick and always fun to fight. :aok
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Ask Dastridly, actually fight against him in a 110C and your perception of "it sucks" will be quickly evaporated as he creams you. Seriously though, the 110C is a good bird, not that much out of it's zone in the LW but you have to fly smart to survive. Those flaps make it do unbelievable things, unbelievable I tell ya!
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Dast dumped coffee on his computer, but came back for awhile after he got it fixed. Probably been a year since he disappeared again.
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Dastardly was PWNTASTIC and enjoyed AH as a "bottom dweller also :aok
JUGgler
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i'm guessing most couldn't hold NEAR a 1.0 K/D in a 110C. it's not well acclimated to the LW arenas. to pwn in a 110c is to be one with the P W N. the force is stong in you JUGgler. (and that pink is no "costume." certain days JUG just loves pink! in AoM, we call em "weekdays" :aok)
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i'm guessing most couldn't hold NEAR a 1.0 K/D in a 110C. it's not well acclimated to the LW arenas. to pwn in a 110c is to be one with the P W N. the force is stong in you JUGgler. (and that pink is no "costume." certain days JUG just loves pink! in AoM, we call em "weekdays" :aok)
You know O'l Jugler, on the weekdays the pink, on the weekends the stink.
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(http://assets.sonymusic.com/rca/kol/gallery/pics/b77607b0aa480fd302d85278a08253c2.jpg)
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That is correct.
If you can't out turn something, more than likely you can out run it.
I think I've heard that for every plane in this game :lol
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If you can't out turn something, more than likely you can out run it."
Not true for an A8 ...
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I love it. I flew it for an entire tour a long time ago and ended with like a 2.1 k/d
Awesome airplane
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I've come across JUG in that damn thing a few times.. Here you are thinking you've got an easy 110 kill.. Till the 110c pops up.. Oh crap, this guy again.. :x :salute
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I am very scared to engaging 110s now, even if its a G4. :noid
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Alright peeps, I've recieved many PMs and 200 comments on the 110c PWNing some, and most of them are not very nice :angel:
For those "put out" let me give you some advice and a little experience:
The 110c is slow, climbs poorly, accelerates horribly, rolls worse then a JU88, has a nasty stall and has terrible guns. It turns good and seems to be efficient at E retention. Sooooooo with that said----> IF you lose to it
IT IS YOUR FAULT
:salute
JUGgler
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If you can't out turn something, more than likely you can out run it."
Not true for an A8 ...
Not true for perhaps 50% of the planeset with the Spixteen in play.
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Alright peeps, I've recieved many PMs and 200 comments on the 110c PWNing some, and most of them are not very nice :angel:
For those "put out" let me give you some advice and a little experience:
The 110c is slow, climbs poorly, accelerates horribly, rolls worse then a JU88, has a nasty stall and has terrible guns. It turns good and seems to be efficient at E retention. Sooooooo with that said----> IF you lose to it
IT IS YOUR FAULT
:salute
JUGgler
Turning this on its head, you are saying the 110c can out-turn many rides and hang there and pop them if they attempt vertical maneuvering. Which is okay, 'cause it is too slow to get out of its on way, 'cept for the fact I *know* you will mock them most mockingly on 200 when they extend away from your 110 JUGG :neener:
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Turning this on its head, you are saying the 110c can out-turn many rides and hang there and pop them if they attempt vertical maneuvering. Which is okay, 'cause it is too slow to get out of its on way, 'cept for the fact I *know* you will mock them most mockingly on 200 when they extend away from your 110 JUGG :neener:
Incorrect sir, it is the ones who extend then wait till I'm engaged with another to return and pick. I have said openely on this forum that " If you manage to get out of my grasp then good for you, I was unable to lock you up for good" Also I've said many times "If you choose to run, please be decisive and stay running or wait your turn". To be bested then come back and pick the one who bested you has no honor!
If I enter a fight vs multiple cons, that is on me if you've been bested and choose to leave said engagement "OWN your failure and wait your friggin turn"
Also IMHO anyone who runs for whatever reason ie: extend, fear, or reset is the 1st loser ;)
If you run and wait your turn I will most likely <S> you :)
JUGgler
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Ever see one of those kid's toys that they push along the ground and all the little plastic balls are bouncing around there at random? That's a furball :-)
(BTW, a little math. Two bandits cannot "pick" you if you also have a friendly in icon-they can only fly wingman tactics more effectively than you and your compadre ;) )
But I understand Umpteen vs. you are more the fights you are used to. If I swoop in and hose down your 110c during such an encounter, please try to understand, its not personal animosity, but the sheer deviltry in "stealing" the kill from those who set out to gang you. :devil
Incorrect sir, it is the ones who extend then wait till I'm engaged with another to return and pick. I have said openely on this forum that " If you manage to get out of my grasp then good for you, I was unable to lock you up for good" Also I've said many times "If you choose to run, please be decisive and stay running or wait your turn". To be bested then come back and pick the one who bested you has no honor!
If I enter a fight vs multiple cons, that is on me if you've been bested and choose to leave said engagement "OWN your failure and wait your friggin turn"
Also IMHO anyone who runs for whatever reason ie: extend, fear, or reset is the 1st loser ;)
If you run and wait your turn I will most likely <S> you :)
JUGgler
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Not true for perhaps 50% of the planeset with the Spixteen in play.
Spit16 is really not that fast believe it or not
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Ever see one of those kid's toys that they push along the ground and all the little plastic balls are bouncing around there at random? That's a furball :-)
(BTW, a little math. Two bandits cannot "pick" you if you also have a friendly in icon-they can only fly wingman tactics more effectively than you and your compadre ;) )
But I understand Umpteen vs. you are more the fights you are used to. If I swoop in and hose down your 110c during such an encounter, please try to understand, its not personal animosity, but the sheer deviltry in "stealing" the kill from those who set out to gang you. :devil
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:rofl :rofl
Being picked by some is more acceptable then by others :aok
JUGgler
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Spit16 is really not that fast believe it or not
:headscratch:
(http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af263/irishone920/300px-Spit16spd.jpg)
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Real men fight in Lancasters Jugler :devil
:rock :salute
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Alright peeps, I've recieved many PMs and 200 comments on the 110c PWNing some, and most of them are not very nice :angel:
For those "put out" let me give you some advice and a little experience:
The 110c is slow, climbs poorly, accelerates horribly, rolls worse then a JU88, has a nasty stall and has terrible guns. It turns good and seems to be efficient at E retention. Sooooooo with that said----> IF you lose to it
IT IS YOUR FAULT
Well Juggler, You owned me and I was in a new Zeke. I for one have not made fun of you but really liked our fights. Salute to you sir and may your 110C rot in Hell!!!!
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JUGgler
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:rofl :rofl Awesome YGSM
:salute :salute :salute
JUGgler
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Kind of arrogant to fly a very turny plane then call anyone that doesn't bite your bait and actually turn with you a "loser"....
No more should they want to engage in a turny fight with a brewster or a zeke or a hurricane. Unless in a similar turny plane, which most late war rides are not.
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Kind of arrogant to fly a very turny plane then call anyone that doesn't bite your bait and actually turn with you a "loser"....
No more should they want to engage in a turny fight with a brewster or a zeke or a hurricane. Unless in a similar turny plane, which most late war rides are not.
Hmm, was wondering how long it would take? :aok
The 110c is quite easy to beat, I don't expect anyone to fight my fight, kill me any way you desire but commit to it!
These words sir were not mine, they are yours ;)
JUGgler
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I've always found the 110c to be a fun ride. Turns like a Hurricane, it just doesn't roll like one.
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Well if that's the case, then fair 'nuff. Sounded like you were calling them out for not turn-fighting you.
Frankly, as you said, if the 110c shoots them down it's THEIR FAULT (agreed!)... but part of it being their fault is pushing a bad situation to give the 110c the ability to turn inside them.
Much like a P-51 fighting a zeke or something, if you have speed climb and accelerate all in the bag, best to use them! Extend 2k, come back, whatever.
Mind you i've flown the 110c in the MA, mad props to doing as well as you do. I know it's hard. It's just that the statements mentioned previously seemed to suggest a furballer "turn with me or you suck" mentality that some spit drivers seem to cling to. :aok
EDIT: For the record this was the line that seemed to set the tone I mentioned:
"Also IMHO anyone who runs for whatever reason ie: extend, fear, or reset is the 1st loser"
Extend, reset, are the proper ways to kill a 110c. It's no fun for the 110c because... well... frankly he dies.
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who was that one guy who wud fly it all the time long ago about 3 yrs ago. he wud pwn all. :mad:
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Well if that's the case, then fair 'nuff. Sounded like you were calling them out for not turn-fighting you.
Frankly, as you said, if the 110c shoots them down it's THEIR FAULT (agreed!)... but part of it being their fault is pushing a bad situation to give the 110c the ability to turn inside them.
Much like a P-51 fighting a zeke or something, if you have speed climb and accelerate all in the bag, best to use them! Extend 2k, come back, whatever.
Mind you i've flown the 110c in the MA, mad props to doing as well as you do. I know it's hard. It's just that the statements mentioned previously seemed to suggest a furballer "turn with me or you suck" mentality that some spit drivers seem to cling to. :aok
Was not my intention, and IF I can't lock someone up and they get away "no matter what I'm flying" then :salute to them. There is a point in every fight where someone must choose fight or flight, If they are succesful at either then they've done something correct and they've earned the win or the escape! :aok
:salute
JUGgler
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who was that one guy who wud fly it all the time long ago about 3 yrs ago. he wud pwn all. :mad:
Dastardly
JUGgler
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I am not trying to speak for Juggler here, but its the aggressiveness of the pilot that matters most. Extending 2k to regain some E and coming back in for another round is a legitimate and not considered lame or cowardess. Getting back into a turn fight with a little E is smart and aggressive as long as you are not running out to 4K and then turning back after the chaser breaks. Whatever it takes to get the 6 covered is my moto. Salute Juggler
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Its like one of those situations one runs into quite often (in the movies) where you can either watch your friend be eaten alive by alien parasites or zombies or something, OR you can end it with one quick shot to the head...
You'll thank me later.
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Being picked by some is more acceptable then by others :aok
JUGgler
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EDIT: For the record this was the line that seemed to set the tone I mentioned:
"Also IMHO anyone who runs for whatever reason ie: extend, fear, or reset is the 1st loser"
Extend, reset, are the proper ways to kill a 110c. It's no fun for the 110c because... well... frankly he dies.
:rofl :rofl You are too litteral sir, this mantra is for my own satisfaction to help my pride when I get PWNed by the 'good energy" fighter :aok and that is all
:salute
JUGgler
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No worries, I think you've clarified what you meant. :salute
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Don't mind Juggler...he's scared of heights and too lazy to run. Easy meat, ask Rud3boi :D
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Don't mind Juggler...he's scared of heights and too lazy to run. Easy meat, ask Rud3boi :D
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Don't mind Juggler...he's scared of heights and too lazy to run. Easy meat, ask Rud3boi :D
Lilacs
and vagisil
JUGgler
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him and sumone else, it mighta been him
Dastardly
JUGgler