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Title: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Sundowner on May 12, 2011, 06:41:53 PM
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Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Nefarious on May 12, 2011, 06:59:55 PM
The media's downplaying of the situation is over. It took two months for them to tell us what we feared happened back in Mid March... Those reactors have been exposed for two months and the entire area, ocean and land has littered with spent fuel rods from the explosions.

This is the worst environmental disaster in history and dwarfs the Chernobyl accident.
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Estes on May 12, 2011, 11:41:47 PM
The media's downplaying of the situation is over. It took two months for them to tell us what we feared happened back in Mid March... Those reactors have been exposed for two months and the entire area, ocean and land has littered with spent fuel rods from the explosions.

This is the worst environmental disaster in history and dwarfs the Chernobyl accident.

Yep. When it first happened, the media down played it as a 3 mile island at worst.
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: icepac on May 13, 2011, 02:46:07 AM
The "melting" is a recent event and more than one reactor is experiencing recent issues and spewing steam possibly more than they did in the beginning.

They either let thier guard down or badly prioritized what needed attention.
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: BnZs on May 13, 2011, 03:04:30 AM
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Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: rpm on May 13, 2011, 03:34:09 AM
Anyone heard from Rolex lately?
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Sundowner on May 13, 2011, 04:43:23 AM
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Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: mechanic on May 13, 2011, 04:57:55 AM
Anyone heard from Rolex lately?


I spoke to him briefly a week or so after the quake and he said he personaly was ok though alot of people were not.
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Rolex on May 13, 2011, 06:25:11 AM
I'm fine, rpm. Thanks for asking.
(Just a note here that I'm 90 miles south of the Fukushima plant)

It was estimated long ago that 55% of the fuel in #1 had melted, but they've just recently been able to replace instruments and gauges inside the building. It looks like more is melted than was thought. It's taken ingenuity and lots of hard work for them just to get inside Building 1, and lots more will be required over the next year. They're trying to do all of this work without killing anyone, and that means it will take some time.

I've watched interviews of the people in charge at the site (from inside the facility) and the staff are simply dealing with events as they learn more and more. There is no gloom among the workers; they're determined, methodical and very professional, from what I witnessed in the interview.

No doubt this is a monumental engineering challenge. They're still going to build a provisional cooling system that recirculates the water leaking from the pressure vessel but inside the containment, which is a creative solution. Outside the exclusion area around the plant, radioactivity levels have been back to normal background levels for at least a month now.

The first sentence of the Telegraph article is pretty funny. Engineers did not enter "the reactor..." they entered the reactor building, and they didn't see the top five feet of anything. Here is a link to the daily data from the site, untouched by reporters, if you're technically inclined:  Link>> (http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/press/index.html)
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Skuzzy on May 13, 2011, 09:20:33 AM
Rolex, thank you for being a voice of reason among the drama queens.

I hope the best for the Japanese people and their country in these trying times.
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: morfiend on May 13, 2011, 11:09:30 AM
Rolex, thank you for being a voice of reason among the drama queens.

I hope the best for the Japanese people and their country in these trying times.


  Quoted for echoing my sentements.




     :salute
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Sundowner on May 23, 2011, 08:49:16 PM
In my original post on this thread I wondered what TEPCO (TEPCO is not a government affiliate..publicly owned....check their stock listing) would find in UNITS #2 & #3 after finally admitting #1 UNIT  had melted down.

Looks like they are reporting now that not 1 but 3...count 'em 3.. reactors either mostly or partially melted down.

Regards,
Sun


TEPCO confirms partial meltdown of Fukushima Nos. 2, 3 reactors

TOKYO, May 24, Kyodo

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Tuesday that a partial fuel meltdown is believed to have occurred at the Nos. 2 and 3 reactors at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi power plant, updating its earlier assessment that just the No. 1 reactor suffered critical fuel melting.

The latest announcement means all three reactors with active fuel inside at the plant are now believed to have suffered fuel meltdowns in the wake of the devastating March 11 earthquake and ensuing tsunami.

The plant's operator, known as TEPCO, said in mid-May that findings suggested that the No. 1 reactor suffered a meltdown shortly after the disaster disabled the plant's cooling systems, with most of its fuel having melted down to the bottom of the pressure vessel.

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/05/92900.html
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: LThunderpocket on May 23, 2011, 08:56:20 PM
we never should've let them build those.now look what they've done!
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: saggs on May 23, 2011, 09:53:36 PM
we never should've let them build those.now look what they've done!

Who are the "we" and "them" that you speak of?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: B-17 on May 23, 2011, 10:37:53 PM
we never should've let them build those.now look what they've done!

useless post? just a bit?  :huh and who was "letting" who? right. there is no "letting" any one country do any one thing. also, how else, may i ask, would japan produce such huge amounts of energy, while managing to stay reasonably green? (eco-friendly?)
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: LThunderpocket on May 24, 2011, 12:05:45 AM
useless post? just a bit?  :huh and who was "letting" who? right. there is no "letting" any one country do any one thing. also, how else, may i ask, would japan produce such huge amounts of energy, while managing to stay reasonably green? (eco-friendly?)

i was gonna add more but it would be a pretty fluffied up WW2 joke,so i stopped.dunno why i didnt erase whole thing
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Babalonian on May 24, 2011, 12:00:27 PM
<snip>

Three partial contained meltdowns, the miracle of "modern" nuclear technology, the result of three reactors cranking at full production when impacted by a major seismic event and then tsunami, designed and built to standards long considered today as outdated and unsafe.

Yeah, we should totaly abandon modern nuclear power.
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Soup Nazi on May 24, 2011, 12:40:07 PM
I noticed that Green Peace has refocused their fleet from Japanese Whaling operations to some other part of the world recently. Hmmmm, wonder why?
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Sundowner on May 24, 2011, 06:42:54 PM
Quote from: Sundowner on Yesterday at 08:49:16 PM
<snip>


Three partial contained meltdowns, the miracle of "modern" nuclear technology, the result of three reactors cranking at full production when impacted by a major seismic event and then tsunami, designed and built to standards long considered today as outdated and unsafe.

Yeah, we should totaly abandon modern nuclear power.

Why the <snip> in the quote line if you indicate you are quoting me?

Here is the <snipped> quote in full:


"In my original post on this thread I wondered what TEPCO (TEPCO is not a government affiliate..publicly owned....check their stock listing) would find in UNITS #2 & #3 after finally admitting #1 UNIT  had melted down.

Looks like they are reporting now that not 1 but 3...count 'em 3.. reactors either mostly or partially melted down.

Regards,
Sun"



Where in the <snipped> quote did I say "we should totaly[sic] abandon modern nuclear power."?

All I did was report 2 more nuclear reactors melted down. <sheesh>

Regards,
Sun
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Sundowner on June 06, 2011, 07:48:02 PM
See Rule #13
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Masherbrum on June 07, 2011, 06:55:24 AM
So you put your trust into CNN eh?  
Title: Re: Meltdown Confirmed at Fukushima unit #1
Post by: Plawranc on June 07, 2011, 07:09:20 AM
I trust the Tabloids.

More grounds for news there than anywhere else. /sarcastic attack at journalism credibility