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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bmwgs on May 13, 2011, 04:47:06 AM
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OK, I give up. I have asked in game and no one seems to know. In the Commanders View, what is the outer triangle pointing to and/or indicating?
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/bmwgs_ah/gunsight.jpg)
Thanks
Fred
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That's your compass. Imagine the circle as a heading indicator where the top is N. That triangle points to the compass direction that your GV is driving. In your provided picture you are driving West. Your turret is rotated a little more than 90 degrees to the left so you are looking South/Southeast.
I find it kind of confusing and would prefer the triangle always pointed North. I get disoriented when I try spouting out direction I see enemy without my clipboard open.
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(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3485/commanderssight.jpg)
I'm not sure "Direction You Are Looking" works.
Better description?
wrongway
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(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3485/commanderssight.jpg)
I'm not sure "Direction You Are Looking" works.
Better description?
wrongway
Slightly incorrect. The outer triangle indicator is not pointing North all the time. Like Gnucks said, the top of your sight is always north, and the heading indicator is showing your hull bearing relative to north.
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/584/headingh.jpg)
Very confusing indeed. :headscratch:
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Thanks GNucks and AWwrgwy, I just went into offline mode to check it out after your descriptions. Now my opinion is that it is about worthless as a ...... well I better not. :D
I agree, have it always pointing north, which to me really doesn't mean anything since I could care less which way north or south is when I am moving.
If I had any say in it, I would rather have it indicate where the front of the tank is. Because we don't have true depth perception, sometime it takes me a second to determine where the front of the tank is when I am stopped and have been rotating the turrent. That would be of more use to me rather than a compass heading.
Another opinion by
Fred
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Slightly incorrect. The outer triangle indicator is not pointing North all the time. Like Gnucks said, the top of your sight is always north, and the heading indicator is showing your hull bearing relative to north.
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/584/headingh.jpg)
Very confusing indeed. :headscratch:
Went offline to test it, came back to post the response and you beat me to it. Anyways you are correct.
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(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3485/commanderssight.jpg)
I'm not sure "Direction You Are Looking" works.
Better description?
wrongway
That is incorrect. If you look at the outer triangle you will notice it turns clockwise when you turn right, and moves counterclockwise when you turn left. If the red triangle always pointed North it would be the opposite. On a magnetic compass the position of the triangle in your picture would indicate you are looking Northwest. But that triangle behaves like this instrument:
(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy170/gnpatent/headingindicator.png)
The top is North/0 degrees and the needle is pointed at Northeast/45 degrees.
Test this by keeping your turret rotated to the front of your vehicle and driving and doing turns with your clipboard open, you will see the plane icon in your clipboard and the outer triangle behave identically.
Things get really hairy when you start rotating your turret though. If both triangles are lined up at the top you are driving and looking North. If both are aligned at the right you are driving East but looking South. If the outer triangle is at the bottom and the inner is at the left you are driving South and looking East.
EDIT: Got ninja'd but I hope this post helps. :aok
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That is incorrect. If you look at the outer triangle you will notice it turns clockwise when you turn right, and moves counterclockwise when you turn left. If the red triangle always pointed North it would be the opposite. On a magnetic compass the position of the triangle in your picture would indicate you are looking Northwest. But that triangle behaves like this instrument:
(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy170/gnpatent/headingindicator.png)
The top is North/0 degrees and the needle is pointed at Northeast/45 degrees.
Test this by keeping your turret rotated to the front of your vehicle and driving and doing turns with your clipboard open, you will see the plane icon in your clipboard and the outer triangle behave identically.
Things get really hairy when you start rotating your turret though. If both triangles are lined up at the top you are driving and looking North. If both are aligned at the right you are driving East but looking South. If the outer triangle is at the bottom and the inner is at the left you are driving South and looking East.
EDIT: Got ninja'd but I hope this post helps. :aok
I think you misunderstood what he said, the red triangle points to where your tank is heading relative to north.
(Lusche, I'll steel your picture)
(http://imageshack.us/m/189/584/headingh.jpg)
So north is to your right.
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Thanks GNucks and AWwrgwy, I just went into offline mode to check it out after your descriptions. Now my opinion is that it is about worthless as a ...... well I better not. :D
I agree, have it always pointing north, which to me really doesn't mean anything since I could care less which way north or south is when I am moving.
If I had any say in it, I would rather have it indicate where the front of the tank is. Because we don't have true depth perception, sometime it takes me a second to determine where the front of the tank is when I am stopped and have been rotating the turrent. That would be of more use to me rather than a compass heading.
Another opinion by
Fred
The top of the circle (which also indicates north) is the front of your tank, so if you point that rectangle vertically up your gun will be pointing forward.
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I think you misunderstood what he said, the red triangle points to where your tank is heading relative to north.
(Lusche, I'll steel your picture)
(http://imageshack.us/m/189/584/headingh.jpg)
So north is to your right.
I'm sure he understands how the instrument works and labeled it that way completely by mistake. My post was mostly addressing the OP so he could test and confirm how it works for himself.
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The top of the circle (which also indicates north) is the front of your tank, so if you point that rectangle vertically up your gun will be pointing forward.
Of course you are correct. I just checked it out off line. I think I still would rather have that triangle stay relative to the front of the tank, but that is just an opinion from an old man with weak eyes. We need all the visual references we can get. hehehe
Thanks for all the responses, it cleared up a bit of confusion.
Fred
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Of course you are correct. I just checked it out off line. I think I still would rather have that triangle stay relative to the front of the tank, but that is just an opinion from an old man with weak eyes. We need all the visual references we can get. hehehe
Thanks for all the responses, it cleared up a bit of confusion.
Fred
Maybe HTC will let us make gunsight for tanks as well...
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If you look at MacFly picture, after readying this I believe it would just make since to move the View And barel marker aligned with the Heading bug if the tank was in the same position as MacFly has it.
What you think?
HiTech
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Took a min and wrote it.
This would be driving west looking directly behind the tank.
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/dales/tank.jpg)
HiTech
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so it would show the relationship between the direction the tank hull is driving/pointing and the direction the main gun/turret is pointing?
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what about placing a small compass in the corner of the screen representing each the turrent and hull?
I vote to keep the TC view as it is now.
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so it would show the relationship between the direction the tank hull is driving/pointing and the direction the main gun/turret is pointing?
it currently does that, but hitech's example now your gun and view is shown relative to the heading bug, not top=forward. so are youre steering around, the gun and view will rotate around with the heading bug. ie. if youre gun and view is foward, and you drive south, all 3 bugs will point 6 oclock.
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Took a min and wrote it.
This would be driving west looking directly behind the tank.
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/dales/tank.jpg)
HiTech
That looks great! Seems like a simple enough fix that everyone will be able to get used to. If I understand correctly, you could find the heading based on which was the barrel is pointed? You don't need the "hull bug" or whatever at all to stay oriented, right? In that picture I would have guessed you were looking North but with the new coad you'd be looking East, much more intuitive!