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Title: Where is the...
Post by: JOACH1M on May 13, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
CHROME! I always thought plane skins that were chrome in RL should shine in the great big AH sun! :D I know the skinners can't be the problem...
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: Karnak on May 13, 2011, 09:22:55 PM
CHROME! I always thought plane skins that were chrome in RL should shine in the great big AH sun! :D I know the skinners can't be the problem...
Don't think any WWII birds shone like you are thinking.  The extremely shiny "chrome" look of some restored aircraft is a modern thing.  I don't think you want your fighter to reflect like that as it makes you too easy to spot.
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: JOACH1M on May 13, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
Don't think any WWII birds shone like you are thinking.  The extremely shiny "chrome" look of some restored aircraft is a modern thing.  I don't think you want your fighter to reflect like that as it makes you too easy to spot.
Some pacific sbd and wildcat reports I have read claimed they would a glint of shinty aluminum coming down from on top of them time to time




Yes I want my enemy to see me :devil
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 13, 2011, 09:27:38 PM
Some pacific sbd and wildcat reports I have read claimed they would a glint of shinty aluminum coming down from on top of them time to time

The top of what?
The Bloo Navy planes or the Green/Grey Japanese planes?
Aluminum P-38s?


wrongway
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: JOACH1M on May 13, 2011, 09:30:07 PM
The top of what?
The Bloo Navy planes or the Green/Grey Japanese planes?
Aluminum P-38s?


wrongway
The a6m2 skin was all chrome...


What meant on top was the zeros diving in on their formations
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: Karnak on May 13, 2011, 09:32:28 PM
A6M2s were a white of some shade, not bare metal.
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: Shifty on May 13, 2011, 09:34:53 PM
The a6m2 skin was all chrome...

Nope gray/green. Some more gray some more green.

(http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/uploads/post-2-1136654045.jpg)

Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: JOACH1M on May 13, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Nope gray/green. Some more gray some more green.

(http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/uploads/post-2-1136654045.jpg)


That's a referbished zeke. Probably a after war paint job.
A6M2s were a white of some shade, not bare metal.
you are right :bhead
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: JOACH1M on May 13, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
Maybe just maybe some American pilot cared enough to shine up their birds in their "off" time
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: Krupinski on May 13, 2011, 09:57:42 PM
German pilots on the Eastern Front knew when to disengage the Russians in air combat and get out when they saw the sun reflecting off American P51s in the distance.
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 13, 2011, 10:48:35 PM
Maybe just maybe some American pilot cared enough to shine up their birds in their "off" time

Wax, not polished.

Your own example, "glint of shinty aluminum" is the reason.

Speed, not "Look at me!"


wrongway
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: sunfan1121 on May 14, 2011, 12:25:06 AM
I remember hearing that Pappy Boyington would strip all the paint off his planes so that they could attract the enemy.
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: Krusty on May 14, 2011, 02:18:17 AM
I would doubt that very much.
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: Reaper90 on May 14, 2011, 06:56:12 AM
Pappy did that to attract Chuck Norris, who would of course have plenty of enemy chasing him... then he would whip all of 'em, Chuck included.
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: badhorse on May 21, 2011, 12:05:21 PM
CHROME! I always thought plane skins that were chrome in RL should shine in the great big AH sun! :D I know the skinners can't be the problem...
I am unaware of any airplane (real ones anyway) that were chromed. The shinny surface you see is just polished aluminum. Not sure when Boeing stopped painting their bombers and delivered them with just the bare aluminum surface. It saved weight and by the end of the war, we had so many of them there was no need to camouflage them.
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 21, 2011, 01:05:51 PM
I am unaware of any airplane (real ones anyway) that were chromed. The shinny surface you see is just polished aluminum. Not sure when Boeing stopped painting their bombers and delivered them with just the bare aluminum surface. It saved weight and by the end of the war, we had so many of them there was no need to camouflage them.

Found on the web:

Quote
"The discontinuation of camouflage on the B-29 corresponded with the
December, 1943 USAAF directive discontinuing camouflage on most combat
aircraft.

Not painting the aircraft saved several hundred pounds of weight,
reduced drag a tad, eliminated the cost of the paint, and skipping the
paint shop speeded up the production and delivery of aircraft. The USAAF
determined that these advantages more than offset any disadvantages of
foregoing the camouflage.
Camouflage has its primary benefits for aircraft parked on the ground
and by December of 1943, few if any US bases were under any serious
threat of aerial attack - For those which were, camouflage could be
applied as a field expedient by the ground crews of the squadrons involved. "




wrongway
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: badhorse on May 21, 2011, 07:28:55 PM
thanks wrong way

Good info.
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: Shifty on May 21, 2011, 08:46:02 PM
The a6m2 skin was all chrome...
Wrong

That's a referbished zeke. Probably a after war paint job.you are right :bhead
Wrong again.

They were not chrome and they were not white but you continue to make blind statements.
Do yourself a favor and do some searches or purchase some books on Japanese Naval aircraft colors.

See the band on the fuselage? That's white. See the propellers? That's chrome..

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2336/1537788785_1b0971ff79_b.jpg)

(http://decals.kitreview.com/decals/images/YHD32015-2-big.jpg)
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: Skyguns MKII on May 22, 2011, 01:21:51 AM
Don't think any WWII birds shone like you are thinking.  The extremely shiny "chrome" look of some restored aircraft is a modern thing.  I don't think you want your fighter to reflect like that as it makes you too easy to spot.

wasnt the intention to reflect the surrounding scenery to blend in? That was the intention with the migs anyways
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: DemonFox on May 24, 2011, 08:06:03 AM
I thought aircraft grade aluminum was greenish befor it was painted?
Title: Re: Where is the...
Post by: JOACH1M on May 24, 2011, 08:19:02 AM
Wrong
Wrong again.

They were not chrome and they were not white but you continue to make blind statements.
Do yourself a favor and do some searches or purchase some books on Japanese Naval aircraft colors.

See the band on the fuselage? That's white. See the propellers? That's chrome..

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2336/1537788785_1b0971ff79_b.jpg)

(http://decals.kitreview.com/decals/images/YHD32015-2-big.jpg)
Ok I was wrong yes...but there had to be some allied a/c, i.e. P47, p38,p51, b17, b29 that were chrome or polished aluminum...