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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JunkyII on May 14, 2011, 03:33:08 AM
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Big Army stole it from the Rangers...I say we go to patrol caps full time :)
What do the rest of the Army guys think?
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Beret? That's a french word isn't it? :devil
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Big Army stole it from the Rangers...I say we go to patrol caps full time :)
What do the rest of the Army guys think?
Have you been under a rock? lol
Army switched to Black Berets as standard issue for all troops back in 01.
SF still has Green, AB- Maroon, Rangers- Tan
<S> Oz
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I think you need to find other things to worry about.
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Cavalry are going back to stetsons.
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I'm glad I retired before those floppy hats became mandatory. Useless piece of clothing. At least a ball cap style headgear had a useful function. A beret makes as much sense as the old style garrison hat (pup tent hat) that had a very non pc nickname. It did have history on it's side though and was far easier to use when traveling in uniform than the saucer cap..
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Cavalry are going back to stetsons.
woot back to the cavalry for me :salute
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Hey Junky, how are things man?
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Do u mean berets?
(http://dhs.dsdk12.net/pbaum/foreignlanguage/pictures/beret.jpg)
Or did you mean Barret?
(http://patriotgun.net/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/50_cal.46170736_std.jpg)
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Beret? That's a french word isn't it? :devil
Berets are just a reason to join the Marines instead.
(http://cocoaarmynavy.com/images/store_items/577-454Big.jpg)
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Hate the Beret, I want my PC back full time.
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Army could go back to the Tricorn hats.
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Im with Junky. Going to the berret for all was classic 'we are all winners' crap. Just like soccer leagues in Massachusetts not keeping score so no one gets their cute little feelings hurt. So a US Army cook, who would be flipping burgers at IHOP in the civiliam world gets to tell stories like they did something for real. I spent years as an M60A3 then M1A1 tanker and don't deserve the black berret.
Dump the PC crap and get back to where it should be. Rangers get black berret, SF green, paratroop maroon and dump the tan stuff. All the rest of us get soft caps and boots. Nuff said!
Boo
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Im with Junky. Going to the berret for all was classic 'we are all winners' crap. Just like soccer leagues in Massachusetts not keeping score so no one gets their cute little feelings hurt. So a US Army cook, who would be flipping burgers at IHOP in the civiliam world gets to tell stories like they did something for real. I spent years as an M60A3 then M1A1 tanker and don't deserve the black berret.
Dump the PC crap and get back to where it should be. Rangers get black berret, SF green, paratroop maroon and dump the tan stuff. All the rest of us get soft caps and boots. Nuff said!
Boo
This.
I'm sorry, I don't really deserve a voice in this discussion as I never toted a rifle or jumped into danger, but I have family who did, and it was a muther-luvin "spit in our faces" moment for the Rangers when the black berets were taken away from them and given to every leg grunt, to make them feel better about being in the Army. What. The. Eff. By some leg POS General who spent his career behind a desk.
You non-hackers can say what you want about "berets" but the guys who earned them (Airborne, Rangers, SF) would love for you to laugh about their headgear.
:salute to the guys who earned the right to wear them, back when it meant something.....
(http://www.modelari-cheb.valka.cz/clanky/bhd/private/Blackhawks/full/0031%20Super%2066.jpg)
Super 66, Mogadishu, Somalia, 1993.... My little brother is kneeling center with the M243 SAW
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(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee283/Heretic6636/IMAG0101-1.jpg)
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Army could go back to the Tricorn hats.
:rofl :rofl :rofl And powdered Wigs for Officers :aok
<S> Oz
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This.
I'm sorry, I don't really deserve a voice in this discussion as I never toted a rifle or jumped into danger, but I have family who did, and it was a muther-luvin "spit in our faces" moment for the Rangers when the black berets were taken away from them and given to every leg grunt, to make them feel better about being in the Army. What. The. Eff. By some leg POS General who spent his career behind a desk.
You non-hackers can say what you want about "berets" but the guys who earned them (Airborne, Rangers, SF) would love for you to laugh about their headgear.
:salute to the guys who earned the right to wear them, back when it meant something.....
(http://www.modelari-cheb.valka.cz/clanky/bhd/private/Blackhawks/full/0031%20Super%2066.jpg)
Super 66, Mogadishu, Somalia, 1993.... My little brother is kneeling center with the M243 SAW
As I have said before the blame for that whole load of dung rests solely with Ret. General Eric Shinseki.
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Bad call by Shineski on the Beret but I do love my Stryker. If I wanted a Beret I would have gone Spec Ops. Beret has always been a source of frustration, shaping the dam thing, shaving it...etc..
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Bad call by Shineski on the Beret but I do love my Stryker. If I wanted a Beret I would have gone Spec Ops. Beret has always been a source of frustration, shaping the dam thing, shaving it...etc..
:lol That sounds more like a beard than a beret.
-Penguin
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Sucks for those of us that had to earn a beret...
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What is the point of the baret? It does not block the sun that good and it catches a lot of dust being so fluffy. The Israeli army figured out it is an idiotic piece of clothing, but did not figure out how to completely get rid of it: soldiers stick it in the shoulder strap and NEVER wear it except for silly ceremonies. Its only real use is that it is where one attaches the army branch symbol, which is good, otherwise they'd have to find a place for it on the uniform.
Even generals stick it on the shoulder:
(http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56586&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1220480849)
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What is the point of the baret? It does not block the sun that good and it catches a lot of dust being so fluffy. The Israeli army figured out it is an idiotic piece of clothing, but did not figure out how to completely get rid of it: soldiers stick it in the shoulder strap and NEVER wear it except for silly ceremonies. Its only real use is that it is where one attaches the army branch symbol, which is good, otherwise they'd have to find a place for it on the uniform.
Even generals stick it on the shoulder:
(http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56586&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1220480849)
Well, I guess the difference is whether or not one had to bleed extra for the right to wear one.
I'm glad I got out before the change was made...
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The US Army needs to make an official regulation authorizing green bandanas for Special Forces, maroon bandanas for Airborne and black bandanas for Rangers in every day headwear.
Just my .02
:salute
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I think you need to find other things to worry about.
Trying to get my mind off IEDs and people trying to kill me....sorry
:rofl :rofl :rofl And powdered Wigs for Officers :aok
<S> Oz
I like it :D
Im with Junky. Going to the berret for all was classic 'we are all winners' crap. Just like soccer leagues in Massachusetts not keeping score so no one gets their cute little feelings hurt. So a US Army cook, who would be flipping burgers at IHOP in the civiliam world gets to tell stories like they did something for real. I spent years as an M60A3 then M1A1 tanker and don't deserve the black berret.
Dump the PC crap and get back to where it should be. Rangers get black berret, SF green, paratroop maroon and dump the tan stuff. All the rest of us get soft caps and boots. Nuff said!
Boo
exactly
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For those who earned it <S>, I 'm a Red Leg, head gear doesn't define who I am.
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What's a red leg?
-Penguin
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What's a red leg?
-Penguin
Field Artillery
Hooah!
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The beret is an especially smart piece of military headgear. right up until the moment that it is issued to troops.
The British military have been able to pull it off for some generations, and a properly steamed beret is a damned sight smarter than any other piece of military headgear. Especially 'digital' camouflage 'baseball caps' :huh nevertheless :salute to those who've earned the ones with the globe and laurels.
(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/marineberet.jpg)
These chaps make it look fairly good :salute
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Yea the Brits could always pull it off but most regular joes in the army dont wear it anywhere near right. and I would be more than happy to go to the pc full time.
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If it's that much trouble, why do we issue decorative headwear to people who are rolling in the mud, blood and dust all day long? It seems like a waste of cloth and time that could be better spent than steaming and shaving berets. Seriously, these beret-related verbs are becoming quite creepy.
-Penguin
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If it's that much trouble, why do we issue decorative headwear to people who are rolling in the mud, blood and dust all day long? It seems like a waste of cloth and time that could be better spent than steaming and shaving berets. Seriously, these beret-related verbs are becoming quite creepy.
-Penguin
Because at one point in time, it signified that one had gone above and beyond of their own volition.
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Berets are just a reason to join the Marines instead.
(http://cocoaarmynavy.com/images/store_items/577-454Big.jpg)
Semper Fi!
(except mine was OD green).
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What is the point of the baret? It does not block the sun that good and it catches a lot of dust being so fluffy
My thoughts exactly, why the f* would you wear a baret, why not something useful like a helmet?
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My thoughts exactly, why the f* would you wear a baret, why not something useful like a helmet?
Brit troops in the Falklands wore beret's (at least marines/para's and scots guards did) in order to help identifying targets at night. It was considered the silhouette of helmets would lead to some blue on blues as all the Argie's wore them. Most helmets are nigh on useless at stopping anything harder hitting than pistol rounds/shrapnel anyway. (I'd still prefer to have one on my napper nevertheless)
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Because at one point in time, it signified that one had gone above and beyond of their own volition.
True, but I don't suppose that Delta Force, the Airborne, the SEALs and Rangers wore those things anywhere else than parade. Perhaps they did, maybe I'm wrong.
-Penguin
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I Hate the beret....I'm no ranger so I enjoy looking like a badprettythang with my little black beret, but as my lazy fobbit side comes out a pc is far more easy n useful... While 90% oif the time I take my cover off (easier to eeee so I dont screw up my medic skills, when I do wear my beret iys usually more trouble then its worth.....n I hate when people flop it on and look like a damn french baker
My semi conflicted 2 cents
Condor .....hooah lol
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So the four point helmets didn't fix the problem of medics exposing their heads to perform surgery? Dang, you just can't believe what you see on TV.
-Penguin
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maybe I'm just lazy, but unless I'm taking contact I take off anything on my head. And the helmets are a pain, get tangled, add weight, and u better pray u get the right size which at my reserve unit is not likely.
Most of all though its about comfort....the more comfortable u are, the more precise u are...but treating people stateside is different. In country u bet my ach stays sinched tight
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I Hate the beret....I'm no ranger so I enjoy looking like a badprettythang with my little black beret, but as my lazy fobbit side comes out a pc is far more easy n useful... While 90% oif the time I take my cover off (easier to eeee so I dont screw up my medic skills, when I do wear my beret iys usually more trouble then its worth.....n I hate when people flop it on and look like a damn french baker
My semi conflicted 2 cents
Condor .....hooah lol
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I will still hold forth the proposition that a black beret looks silly without one of these on your left shoulder...
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/RangerTab-1.jpg)
Same for the red beret and one of these...
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/AIRBORNE_TAB.jpg)
If one doesn't know what the green one is for... better find a good hiding spot :devil
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Von, I agree with you 100%. When I was at Ft Campbell, there were rumors of our BDE CDR wanting atleast 90% of the Brigade, Air Assault qualified to get us the Steel Beret. Like I said , it was a rumor.Berets distinguished the creme de la creme from us mainstreamers. :salute
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Von, I agree with you 100%. When I was at Ft Campbell, there were rumors of our BDE CDR wanting atleast 90% of the Brigade, Air Assault qualified to get us the Steel Beret. Like I said , it was a rumor.Berets distinguished the creme de la creme from us mainstreamers. :salute
Tomcat when were you at Ft. Campbell? I was there 75-79. Everyone wore a blue beret at that time. I think I went thru Air Assault training in 76, then Recondo school 78ish.
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I was at Fort Campbell from 2005 -2007
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here's the one I use when I fly my pink spit. even silat is jealous.
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/semperac/IMG00027-20091227-1347.jpg)
semp
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Beret? That's a french word isn't it? :devil
At least the French know how to dress. Until Libya I thought they didnt have any balls.
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here's the one I use when I fly my pink spit. even silat is jealous.
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/semperac/IMG00027-20091227-1347.jpg)
semp
You wear a multifunction printer on your head?
Isn't that heavy?
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Most helmets are nigh on useless at stopping anything harder hitting than pistol rounds/shrapnel anyway.
untrue sir...
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untrue sir...
helmets are designed to deflect a shot that otherwise will kill you. will not stop all rounds but better than nothing.
semp
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untrue sir...
Well i wore helmets for many years, from Mk4 steel jobbies to GS mk6 Kevlar, my brother is currently in theatre wearing the new helmet. Unless you are considering specialist heavyweight equipment, I'd like to see the modern, military issue skid lid that will stop 5.56x45mm or 7.62 x 39mm. :aok
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Well i wore helmets for many years, from Mk4 steel jobbies to GS mk6 Kevlar, my brother is currently in theatre wearing the new helmet. Unless you are considering specialist heavyweight equipment, I'd like to see the modern, military issue skid lid that will stop 5.56x45mm or 7.63 x 39mm. :aok
This one penetrated, but the soldiers life was saved by his helmet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y0g6PNqBiI
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This one penetrated, but the soldiers life was saved by his helmet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y0g6PNqBiI
When my brother came back from Somolia 1n 1992 after Mogadishu, I (we, whole family went actually) visited him at Ft Benning and attended a ceremony and stuff, anyway, 3rd Bat Rangers barracks had offices of some sort in one part of the buildings (forgive my memory, it was 19 years ago!) and they had a lot of trphies of sorts, captured weapons, gear, etc. Anyway, he showed me a bunch of pics they had taken in Mogadishu after the raid, one I remember quite clearly was a pic of one of the guy's "clay pots" they called them, their helmets. Anyway, seems a Somoli had fired at them and one round ricochet'd off a wall and smacked this guy right in the helmet. The pic showed the helmet, whole side of it peeled open and just obliterated, but it stopped the round. Granted, the ricochet off the wall absorbed a lot of energy and slowed the round down quite a lot, but it was still carying quite a bit of energy, def enough to kill a guy wearing a steel helmet. As it ends up, it knocked the guy out cold and he wound up with a bad concussion, but was carried out and lived through it.
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Well I still have my old beret which I wore during my time in the service and if ever went contracting I would wear it. I'm pretty proud of it. But as a helmet collector things have moved on. The British Mk7 is not bad. It saved a couple of Irish soldiers already. http://army-uk.info/news_detail.php?id=273. I have a mk 6 as used in Iraq complete with theatre appropriate modifications. Same with a PASGT helmt.
Not sure about you Americans but the beret is symbolic with us on this side of the pond. To be honest it's not the coolest ever military headgear but like all French uniform fashion, it seems to work.
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I know they have save several lives, but my point was that in a non glancing impact, any modern cartridge will be through the helmet and on it's way :eek:
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This.
My little brother is kneeling center with the M243 SAW
thats a m249 SAW.theres another gun that looks pretty similar called the m240
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My thoughts exactly, why the f* would you wear a baret, why not something useful like a helmet?
Originally introduced over here in tank crews, didn't get in the way of cramped tank interiors and the originals were brown so as to hide oil stains. Berets are strictly speaking only a parade head-dress, in the british army you wear them around camp/on parade in your green kit, but certainly never on patrol. Also, if you mould them right, they look ally (army cool): ala http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1505000/images/_1505794_beret300.jpg
Unfortunately the way you yanks do yours often makes your lads look like giant noodlees ala http://www.glogster.com/media/4/35/66/35/35663524.jpg
And then there are the isrealis............... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Nahal-kumta.jpg
Isn't the world lucky to have the outstanding and oh-so-fashionable British Army?
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Originally introduced over here in tank crews, didn't get in the way of cramped tank interiors and the originals were brown so as to hide oil stains. Berets are strictly speaking only a parade head-dress, in the british army you wear them around camp/on parade in your green kit, but certainly never on patrol. Also, if you mould them right, they look ally (army cool): ala http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1505000/images/_1505794_beret300.jpg
Unfortunately the way you yanks do yours often makes your lads look like giant noodlees ala http://www.glogster.com/media/4/35/66/35/35663524.jpg
And then there are the isrealis............... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Nahal-kumta.jpg
Isn't the world lucky to have the outstanding and oh-so-fashionable British Army?
There’s a French Soldier, an Israeli Commando, a British SAS officer and a Green Beret sitting around a campfire telling each-other how mean and tough they are.
The French Soldier says “I can swim 50 miles and bite the head off a live chicken. One French soldier is worth 5 other men.”
The Israeli Commando says “I can clear runways one-handed and kill a man with my bare hands. One Israeli Commando is worth 10 other men.”
The British SAS officer says “Yeah? Well I can dive up to 90 feet without air, and I’m an expert in demolitions. One British SAS officer is worth 13 other men.”
The Green Beret just sat there all this time saying nothing, stirring the fire with his d*%k.
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Unfortunately the way you yanks do yours often makes your lads look like giant noodlees ala http://www.glogster.com/media/4/35/66/35/35663524.jpg
At least our fighters don't act like vaginas.
God save the queen, because her army can't.
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At least our fighters don't act like vaginas.
God save the queen, because her army can't.
Erm, I think you'd discover the opposite to be true, but no-one is intending to fight or die for the Queen, just as US forces do not fight and die for their president or flag. They do it for their muckers. As for your soldiers acting like anything, there are good and bad units in every armed services. In my experience the British Armed services are amongst the most professional in the world.
That being said, U.S forces I have come across in the most part have been first rate. :salute
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Coming from the Honor Guard I learned very quickly how to wear my beret....
Alot of the other nations wear them hear in afghanistan and its quite funny.....only reason why they can is because they don't leave the wire... :bolt:
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Erm, I think you'd discover the opposite to be true, but no-one is intending to fight or die for the Queen, just as US forces do not fight and die for their president or flag. They do it for their muckers. As for your soldiers acting like anything, there are good and bad units in every armed services. In my experience the British Armed services are amongst the most professional in the world.
That being said, U.S forces I have come across in the most part have been first rate. :salute
Yes, I responded hastily.
The Brits have been steadfastly doing our bidding for years now. They (in my estimation) are at least worthy of the title: "coat room attendant".
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just as you yanks are wonderful light entertainment...
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just as you yanks are wonderful light entertainment...
:) :salute
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The Green Beret just sat there all this time saying nothing, stirring the fire with his d*%k.
Nice. :lol
Although I was under the impression that you gave a 'green beret' to just about anyone. Takes quite a bit more to earn that tan beret. When you're one of only a couple of hundred members of the world's original special forces unit, the same unit that trains everyone else, including your navy seals, you can count yourself as a pretty hard nut...
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BUDS(Basic Underwater Demolition School) is the start of SEAL training. I do believe the world's orignial special operations unit is the British SAS. SEALS evolved from the US NAvy's Frogmen of WW2.
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Nice. :lol
Although I was under the impression that you gave a 'green beret' to just about anyone. Takes quite a bit more to earn that tan beret. When you're one of only a couple of hundred members of the world's original special forces unit, the same unit that trains everyone else, including your navy seals, you can count yourself as a pretty hard nut...
The green beenies are Army Special Forces. Everyone got black berets because of Shinseki and the Rangers were might pissed because of it.
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BUDS(Basic Underwater Demolition School) is the start of SEAL training. I do believe the world's orignial special operations unit is the British SAS. SEALS evolved from the US NAvy's Frogmen of WW2.
Yes the Special Air Service and the LRDG (Long Range Desert Group) first operated in North Africa. There is also the SBS (Special Boat Squadron) which operated in the Aegean. This was commanded by George Jellicoe, the son of the Admiral of WW1 fame.
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The green beenies are Army Special Forces. Everyone got black berets because of Shinseki and the Rangers were might pissed because of it.
Well, all I can say is that I'm glad I'm not in, anymore. One less thing to be pissed about :D
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PCs all the way. and i wish the Army would issue out the Multicam (OCP) pattern uniform out in mass. They look good and work amazingly. and you dont wear a beret!
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PCs all the way. and i wish the Army would issue out the Multicam (OCP) pattern uniform out in mass. They look good and work amazingly. and you dont wear a beret!
Brits are wide scale issuing Multicam to troops in theatre, most guys wearing MK7's as well unless well behind hesco's
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Well, all I can say is that I'm glad I'm not in, anymore. One less thing to be pissed about :D
I was in basic shortly before the beret affair. Even then I thought it was a stupid idea. You can have a PC on in less than a second and it's usually on correctly. How long does it take to get the beret on and up to regs?
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I was in basic shortly before the beret affair. Even then I thought it was a stupid idea. You can have a PC on in less than a second and it's usually on correctly. How long does it take to get the beret on and up to regs?
Well back in the day, it didn't matter as much.
If you were wearing one, there weren't too many others that knew if it wasn't being worn properly and if they did, they wouldn't have the balls to tell you :devil
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Although I was under the impression that you gave a 'green beret' to just about anyone. Takes quite a bit more to earn that tan beret. When you're one of only a couple of hundred members of the world's original special forces unit, the same unit that trains everyone else, including your navy seals, you can count yourself as a pretty hard nut...
If you have no idea what you are talking about, as is your case, you shouldn't open your mouth.... ever.
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If you have no idea what you are talking about, as is your case, you shouldn't open your mouth.... ever.
To liberate the oppressed
HOOAH! :salute
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<<<has had the pleasure of seeing other countries operate in country.....Im not impressed
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<<<has had the pleasure of seeing other countries operate in country.....Im not impressed
we are working real closely with a Romanian element, they are pretty cool lol
there good at Intel.. Not Infantry stuff tho hahaa
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No more berets woohoooo :rock :rock
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I wore a black beret before Rangers were ever authorized, wore black as a Ranger, Red as Airborne, and the PC, Infantry all the way. Never knew a soldier who did what they did because of the beret, nor really one who really cared who wore what except those who were jealous someone actually got to wear them. Gen. S was in my opinion right at the time of the change to do so. The headgear was, and still isn't, about those of us who have put out the sweat and blood to be who we were. I will even say this, I wore a green beret though I wasn't even SF (172nd Inf Bde, Ft. Wainwright Alaska), headgear has changed over the history and no individual group has the real right to say they lost a specific color except the tankers (they wore it first to help while riding and working inside the tank). I say Gen S was right because the purpose was recruitment which was badly needed at the time. That time has come and gone and as with anything, change moves us on. I do give one exception to the SF simply because President Kennedy decided to re-authorize it's wear and it has become synonymous with that branch and as such serves as a great recruitment tool. (although in the words of the instructors at Camp McCall, if your here for the beret I suggest you quit now and go buy one).
Good call then on changing the beret, good call now on dumping it.
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If you have no idea what you are talking about, as is your case, you shouldn't open your mouth.... ever.
You SF boys ever get out of your lawn chairs to actually join us on a real mission :banana:
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Mark my words the beret will come back. Because the military have always worn impractical headgear. Because the wearing of it means something other than the protection of the head from rain or bullets. Sure the beret is a pain. I still have mine and smile at how much work it took to look right. I used to despair at the clowns who simply couldn't wear it in a military way. But the good soldiers always got it right.
The British paras wear the red beret. Before they earn it the recruits have to wear what they call 'crap hats'. Guess the US have decided to go with crap hats.
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Brits used to wear bright red coats too, I don't think it was a very good idea then or now. I thought the thread was about the US Army.
:neener:
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Incidently, the tankers wore the "black" beret as it hid the grease they worked in every day. :)
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Brits used to wear bright red coats too, I don't think it was a very good idea then or now. I thought the thread was about the US Army.
:neener:
Blood was less visible with red coats.
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yeah you guys dont wear them right! they look pretty cool when shaped right!
I wore mine like this,
(http://i.ebayimg.com/22/!BjpkGqwBmk~$(KGrHqQOKi4EsmspPhygBLUfeBri8g~~_35.JPG)
But you guys seem to have badges that are to big to pull it off!
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It seems odd that no-one has invented an under-wire beret yet. Would it would remove the whole messy affair of shaping it?
-Penguin
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hard to put it in a pocket then.
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Oh, that does make it tougher. So now that grunts don't wear them, what do the other guys do with them?
-Penguin
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It seems odd that no-one has invented an under-wire beret yet. Would it would remove the whole messy affair of shaping it?
-Penguin
They did, our berets had a special stiffener around the badge area. The very first thing everyone did was to rip it out and go to work making the beret look properly individual.
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Well, there goes that idea. :lol
-Penguin
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Oh, that does make it tougher. So now that grunts don't wear them, what do the other guys do with them?
-Penguin
Hold on to em till some idiot wants to wear em. We still have to wear them with class As or blues whatever you have at the time.
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Wait a minute the beret is the cover for Blues as well? I can only imagine what that looks like.
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Are these blues actually blue? Or are they similar to our Service Dress Blues...
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like a weird mix not as good lookin as your blues but aren't the same set up as the greens.
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I found a couple of pictures of them.
Class A Blue ASU
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/US-NEW-CLASS-A-UNIFORM.png)
Class B Blue ASU
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/US-NEW-CLASS-B-UNIFORM.png)
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Blue pants with a black top? It just doesn't fit. Black pants would have looked much better and completed the stoic look. Look at the first picture, if she had been given simple black pants or a skirt, it would have looked great. Instead, you see these awkwardly placed blue pants that seem like they were whimsically pulled out of the closet.
-Penguin
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Welcome to the world of special use uniforms. It's not supposed to make sense but look professional. Sad thing is if I remember correctly the soldier has to pay for his blues out of pocket.
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yep.... :furious
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@Penguin. That's a navy blue blouse, not black. Similar to the navy blue / royal blue combo of the Marine Dress Blues.
You guys should really ditch the name tags and all that other extra bling. Just rank and ribbons...
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We may be talking about different pictures. I'm talking about the black lady in the far upper left. Unless there is something very, very wrong with the color balance in that picture, her shirt is very dark grey/black.
-Penguin
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We may be talking about different pictures. I'm talking about the black lady in the far upper left. Unless there is something very, very wrong with the color balance in that picture, her shirt is very dark grey/black.
-Penguin
Dark Navy Blue...trust me.
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Alright then, I'll take your word for it.
-Penguin
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These are the informal Blues, the Formal Blues do not have nametags or headgear.
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These are the informal Blues, the Formal Blues do not have nametags or headgear.
So the Major with the bow tie and medals isn't wearing a formal uniform?
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What I found is that the bow tie is worn after retreat. Beyond that I have no clue.
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Blue pants with a black top? It just doesn't fit. Black pants would have looked much better and completed the stoic look. Look at the first picture, if she had been given simple black pants or a skirt, it would have looked great. Instead, you see these awkwardly placed blue pants that seem like they were whimsically pulled out of the closet.
-Penguin
You want a great uniform? Look up the U.S. Navy Yankees. Sadly those have just been removed as an approved uniform... :(
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Berets aside - I can tell you that a well turned out uniform still gets the girls going...
I work in operations at Sydney Airport, and this morning a slightly lost uniformed USAF master sergeant walked into our office. Seems he was on his way to Rockhampton for an exercise or training and was stranded in Sydney airport for at least 24hrs. He had a heap of gear and cases so was asking if he could borrow the phone so he could call a hotel or something. We said we could do better than that - we had the phone number for the nearby local US military post office which is staffed by USAF personnel. We called them, and he spoke to them and they sent someone to come pick him up.
But in the 40 mins he waited in our office that guy was never alone! The girls in our office fussed over him, offering him coffee, magazines, snacks & asking him about his service life etc...he made such an impression that after he left I heard from a few of the girls that unfortunately for him they found out he was married - because theres no doubt he would've had a few offers for a place to stay that night.
Tronsky
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Berets aside - I can tell you that a well turned out uniform still gets the girls going...
I work in operations at Sydney Airport, and this morning a slightly lost uniformed USAF master sergeant walked into our office. Seems he was on his way to Rockhampton for an exercise or training and was stranded in Sydney airport for at least 24hrs. He had a heap of gear and cases so was asking if he could borrow the phone so he could call a hotel or something. We said we could do better than that - we had the phone number for the nearby local US military post office which is staffed by USAF personnel. We called them, and he spoke to them and they sent someone to come pick him up.
But in the 40 mins he waited in our office that guy was never alone! The girls in our office fussed over him, offering him coffee, magazines, snacks & asking him about his service life etc...he made such an impression that after he left I heard from a few of the girls that unfortunately for him they found out he was married - because theres no doubt he would've had a few offers for a place to stay that night.
Tronsky
Thanks for taking care of our enlisted folks <S>
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wow multipost
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Thanks for taking care of our enlisted folks <S>
Glad to help out - Our office would never hesitate to assist any servicemen. When the USAF had an office airside @ sydney, we would occasionally deal with the personnel who staffed it, and they were always polite, courteous and a pleasure to deal with. This guy was no different, and ultimately it was really a privilege for us that we could do what we could to make his visit to our country a little better...we even gave his escort free parking :aok
Tronsky
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What struck me about this thread is the fact of the near controversy about how the uniform works out. But this is the current uniform as worn today, this minute. I've seen controversy about the uniform worn a hundred years ago, a hundred and fifty years ago, two hundred years ago..
Personally, I don't like the blues. the greens are more like military to me.Just a personal thing.
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So the Major with the bow tie and medals isn't wearing a formal uniform?
nope
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Let me get my Honor Guard going real quick.....
The ASUs or Army Service Uniform is a Navy Blue blouse with blue pants, this is to symbolize when in Civil War times officers would take off their blouse and their pants would fade to a lighter color.
I think General wear Navy Blue bottoms as well....maybe all black
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Lets ditch the French head gear aside from few groups that have been wearing it for a considerable amount of time.
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I still have my beret from when I was in the 82nd Abn before going to armor, it still has the dipstick marks from checking the oil in our M151's