Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: vafiii on May 15, 2011, 09:09:10 PM
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
-
ill take the meteor for 1000 alex.
-
As annoying as it can be when they show up in the game, I have to give a big "No" to this one. The Me262 is a notable part of WWII aviation history and has a place here.
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
Are you mad?
-
:rofl :rofl please 262 I literally no threat to any single eng prob planes. You easily turn away from a 262 or dive away. :rofl I think your a tad mad that 1 got the beat of you tonight
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
262's are no harder to evade than, say, a 190 or P-51. They are by no means uber.
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
Something tells me you were just killed by one.
-
Are you mad?
It appers he got shot down one or more times, needs to learn a little ACM aginst them.
-
try this:
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/semperac/262ho3.png)
or this:
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/semperac/262kill.jpg)
no need to get fancy.
semp
-
262s are an epic fail in 1v1. The only situation they are real dangerous when they have a lot of food - a horde vulching a field. Yes, remove the horde shepherding tool plz :rolleyes:
-
remove the me163
-
262s are an epic fail in 1v1. The only situation they are real dangerous when they have a lot of food - a horde vulching a field. Yes, remove the horde shepherding tool plz :rolleyes:
In the right hands a 262 is more than a match for any plane 1v1.
JUGgler
-
In the right hands a 262 is more than a match for any plane 1v1.
JUGgler
Not you too JUG! :)
I don't fly 262s, and they can be a pain when you are in with a bunch of other birds and they just run through with those cannon, but there is no reason to get rid of the 262 in game.
-
In the right hands a 262 is more than a match for any plane 1v1.
only if you rope-a-dope or your opponent is a 190. 190s are fun ;)
-
only if you rope-a-dope or your opponent is a 190. 190s are fun ;)
No matter how you slice it a 262 should PWN any prop plane if flown well, I think grizz, sunsfan, kappa etc. would say the same thing.
Equal pilots, jet vs prop, jet wins IMHO
:salute
JUGgler
-
Yep. And F4s should pwn MiG 17s, too.
No matter how you slice it a 262 should PWN any prop plane if flown well, I think grizz, sunsfan, kappa etc. would say the same thing.
Equal pilots, jet vs prop, jet wins IMHO
:salute
JUGgler
-
Equal pilots, jet vs prop, jet wins IMHO
P-51s were known to take out a few 262s.
-
262s are an epic fail in 1v1. The only situation they are real dangerous when they have a lot of food - a horde vulching a field. Yes, remove the horde shepherding tool plz :rolleyes:
have you ever been low and slow in a 262 vs say a P51? :ahand a 262 is amazing slow as long as youre willing to lose perks to a picker
-
P-51s were known to take out a few 262s.
P51s had superior high-altitude performance to the 262, also jumped them when they were busy killing te bombers, or chased down the injured ones rtbing (Walter Nowotny).
Juggler, i see your point, 262 wins, but in a boring way, it has to extend-rope etc. The only planes i like to scissor against, is the 190 series (i often lose tho : ). Jets are superior, but winning an 1v1 in them is too boring for me.
Horde shepherding rulez, you should know, 250+ 262 kills last month ;)
Edit: Bar, i never ever wanna stallfight in a 262 against your pony...
-
I just killed one last week. Keep'm in, there as annoying as crap but spice it up just right.
Boo
PS Nice gun camera shots.
-
P51s had superior high-altitude performance to the 262, also jumped them when they were busy killing te bombers, or chased down the injured ones rtbing (Walter Nowotny).
Juggler, i see your point, 262 wins, but in a boring way, it has to extend-rope etc. The only planes i like to scissor against, is the 190 series (i often lose tho : ). Jets are superior, but winning an 1v1 in them is too boring for me.
Horde shepherding rulez, you should know, 250+ 262 kills last month ;)
Edit: Bar, i never ever wanna stallfight in a 262 against your pony...
I would say the same thing can be said for ponies and 190s vs most other reasonable fighters in the game :aok
Just saying :D
JUGgler
-
I'm still confused why anyone would want to REMOVE an airplane... Everyone else wants MORE planes not less!
Like the PBY :airplane:
-
When I get jumped in my 262 if find it very easy to get a overshootnon the enemy. They are normally going way to fast and overshoot and since they are desperate for the kill they will cross in front to start another attack, and when that happens....BOOM!
-
No matter how you slice it a 262 should PWN any prop plane if flown well, I think Army of Muppets would say the same thing.
Equal pilots, jet vs prop, jet wins IMHO
:salute
JUGgler
FIXED!
-
Are you mad?
Yes. There was a fairly successful 262 "mission" yesterday which resulted in half a dozen plaguing the skies. It was all in defense of a V-base. It was the most practical use of the 262 I'd seen. The enemy air presence was pushed back.
-
toss some 30 mike mikes at them...they go away.
i have to ask though...vafii, why the kneejerk reaction all of a sudden? it's not like they were just introduced last week...and lately in any horde base attack you find at least one buzzing around looking for a pick, easy enough to avoid, unless your situational awareness sucks.
-
I would say the same thing can be said for ponies and 190s vs most other reasonable fighters in the game :aok
ya, exactly.
-
I would say the same thing can be said for ponies and 190s vs most other reasonable fighters in the game :aok
Just saying :D
JUGgler
+1 amen and I agree too
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
Aim for their giant engines if you get a chance.
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
haven't heard many worse ideas. - infinity
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
No. :aok
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
So could you explain exactly why you think a 262 has no place in AH?
And you getting shot down by one is not a valid answer.
-
Yes, I know they appeared at the end of WW2 but having jets fight against propeller driven planes is ridiculous.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee297/osukka/1260589732053.jpg)
-
I would say the same thing can be said for ponies and 190s vs most other reasonable fighters in the game :aok
Just saying :D
JUGgler
The P-51 can turn well for 180 degrees or so to kill something once it bleeds the victims E and sets on its tail. As for the 190...I tried to make it into a fighter, I really did.......
The 262 has a very high wingloading, very low thrust-weight, difficult to aim guns, and for some reason they ruined the forward view. And its probably BETTER in AHII than it was in real life. (I've never set the engine on fire or had a flameout by moving the throttle too quickly in AHII.) You don't want the first of its kind in any new technology, including jet fighters. Honestly, I think the perk price should be lower.
-
As for the 190...I tried to make it into a fighter, I really did.......
the 190 is juuuust fine as a fighter ;)
-
It is highly perked, and therefore pretty rare. If a 262 shoots you down in a fighter, you weren't paying attention because any sort of break turn pretty much leaves them shooting by you with no hope of a shot.
-
Honestly, I think the perk price should be lower.
It is fine where it is at. Reducing the the 262 perk price would increase the frequency of 262s flying in game. With an increase of 262s, there could be some gameplay balance issues.
-
It is fine where it is at. Reducing the the 262 perk price would increase the frequency of 262s flying in game. With an increase of 262s, there could be some gameplay balance issues.
Yes. 262s were very rare even in late '44. Its all good how it is.
-
:rofl :rofl
-
The 262 was operated in WWII and also met inclusion requirements. Also, then we'll use the 163 instead.
-1
:rofl
-
(http://lolpics.se/pics/482.jpg)
no need for explanation
-
The learning cure is quite long on the Me262. It is not easy to fly.
-
The learning cure is quite long on the Me262. It is not easy to fly.
No, it definitely takes some getting used to. I usually find that the first-time pilots will lose one in 1 of 3 ways:
1. Dive until compression makes it a lawn dart.
2. Jerk a fully fuel loaded 262 around until a wingtip shreds off in some impossibly high-G maneuver.
3. Land one at too high a speed and run off the end of the runway.
Just as an FYI - I've been flying a long time and have lost one ALL 3 WAYS! I call that PILOT ERROR 0 - Monkey too stupid to fly correctly.
-
This is one of the more silly ideas I'v heard.
-
Just took one up for a few runs. Please try one for a while before you say it needs to go. I wish they had a jet arena open for a couple nights a week.
-
Just took one up for a few runs. Please try one for a while before you say it needs to go. I wish they had a jet arena open for a couple nights a week.
Ask and you shall recieve!
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,312850.0.html
-
I've seen that and will have to miss that one as well unfortunately.
I'll be moving to Virginia during that time frame. A Korean war
era arena would be awsome. I know the ww1 arena is empty lately
saw the space ship arena fill up though when they put it up.
I'll try doing some cm work after my move and try some ideas though.
-
No, the 163 needs to be removed from the game, with only 8 kills during the war it really had no impact on the war at all. The 262 in AH needs to be only at bases near the HQ/strats and min perk of 500. :salute
-
No, the 163 needs to be removed from the game, with only 8 kills during the war it really had no impact on the war at all. The 262 in AH needs to be only at bases near the HQ/strats and min perk of 500. :salute
:rofl :rofl :rofl
-
Keep the 262 :rock
-
i have very rare encounters with 262s. shot down 1, and been shot down by 2. (second time was today by bigamer)
i have a rather funny tale involving the 163&262.
took off in a b25, was heading to bomb the rook city.
got bounced halfway there by a nikki (believe it was snailman, ik it was someone who comes on the forums)
fought the nikki off, ended up getting a kill on it.
once i was over the city, i got bounced by 2 163's.
i spent maybe 10 mins kicking hard rudder turns, dodging there Bnz attempts,
i went into a shallow dive to get away from them, and i get lucky. ether they lost sight of me, or ran out of gas, but i got away.
i went NOE to the water, maybe only 60ft above it? pretty darn low.
was trying to make it home, had some bad damage (top turret shot out, elevator shot off).
i ended up flying straight into a furball happening in the middle of the sea between 2 bases.
i was trying to sneak below it, then i spotted a 190 coming straight at me, but a little above.(i dont think he saw me)
i being the impulsive person i am, lifted the nose up, exposing myself, and took the shot, downing the 190.
only problem is that while i was shooting the 190 down, a 262 was coming up on my tail fast.
ended with me having to ditch in the water :(
the 262 is pretty devestating in the right hands, but its rare to come across.
-
remove 262?
no.
-
Don't remove the 163 until I've bagged one with every non-uber plane in the planeset.
This tour, I've bagged 6 of them with c202, a6m5, and a6m3.
-
Fly Midwar, Earlywar or AvA if you want to avoid the uber tard planes looking for the mega vluchfest...
~SOLVED~
-
Remove the b-29 now!
pitting this well armed a bomber that came so late in the war, against fighters is ridiculous!
-
Remove the b-29 now!
pitting this well armed a bomber that came so late in the war, against fighters is ridiculous!
but it happened.
-
exactly. the me 262 happened. we're not going to remove it now, are we?
-
exactly. the me 262 happened. we're not going to remove it now, are we?
no,
the 262 was a lie created by high command to scare buff pilots so they would stop falling asleep in there gunner positions :noid
-
I would be against removing the 262 or the 163. These planes are excellent cannon fodder for my 29's.
-
The 262 adds a whole new dimension to WW2 or Aces High,, I've flown it once and feel it definitely has its place... :rock
-
One day in the MA I organized a Stuka mission escorted by Bf-109E4's and F4's. On the way to our target we were attacked by a 262. After three passes Bruv finally got me. All the while I was still lugging my 1800 kg bomb.
So I re-upped and soon I had another 262 bothering me. He tried for a sector or a sector and a half to kill me before he finally left. I then made it to my target and dropped my 1800 Kg bomb.
I mean really, a fighter that can't kill a heavy Stuka should be removed from the game?
-
Honestly... removing the 262 is pointless. same with removing the 163. i believe there should be a limited number of 163s allowed to be up at once though. say 5?
-
Honestly... removing the 262 is pointless. same with removing the 163. i believe there should be a limited number of 163s allowed to be up at once though. say 5?
id bump it up to more than 5, maybe 7 or 8.
make it reasonable because 150+ bombers against 8 163's is just rediculous.
-
150 bombers is ridiculous...
-
I love the jet, as long as no green guys get in my line of fire when im shootin. :mad:
-
Leave it the way it is. Do not limit the #'s. Fight the horde! Kill the Horde! Fly 262!
-
I love the jet, as long as no green guys get in my line of fire when im shootin. :mad:
:aok
-
Leave it the way it is. Do not limit the #'s. Fight the horde! Kill the Horde! Fly 262!
QFT in its troofiest form :aok
-
150 bombers is ridiculous...
been there done that :D
most bombers i've seen in a raid was upwards of 50 or so
-
A secret report to President Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1960 (Regarding the German ME262):
"During that time the German's Literally flew rings around our fighters and bored holes in our bomber formations with complete impunity....For example, 14 fighter groups escorted the 1,250 B-17 raid on Berlin March 18 [1945]--almost a one-for-one escort ration. They were set upon by a single squadron ofME-262's which knocked down 25 bombers and 5 fighters, although outnumbered roughly 100 to 1. The German's lost not a single Plane."
Also, was noted that had the German' been able to get them deployed in force to the French coast they could have denied us (Allies) air superiority and frustrated the Normandy Landings and might even have compelled us (Allies) to work our way up into Europe via the Italian Route.
Stephan Ambrose-D-Day (Pgs 11-12)
The ME262, regardless of how I NEVER have enough perks to fly em anymore lol, belongs in AH.
-
150 bombers is ridiculous...
im talking the pilot+2 drones.
-
im talking the pilot+2 drones.
Which is still 50 pilots...
and still ridiculous.