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Title: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 16, 2011, 11:51:15 AM
all i want for christmas is:

a PBY with 2 torps...and no need to make it land in water anytime soon.

a king tiger

a battleship/s

some kinda torp cam...i just wanna see booms

and more skins for panther

please santa ive been good this year so far...my CC hasnt even bounced once yet this year :)
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 11:54:51 AM
PBY has been discussed thousands of times and I don't think were getting it any time soon.

The King Tiger was also discussed but since I don't GV I have no idea what was the result. Might want to try searching for it.

+1 on the Battleships

What's a torp cam?

HTC does not make the Skins, you can submit a request to the Custom Sounds and Skins section or try to make it your self.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: JOACH1M on May 16, 2011, 11:55:16 AM
gloster :noid
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 16, 2011, 12:05:32 PM
PBY has been discussed thousands of times and I don't think were getting it any time soon.

The King Tiger was also discussed but since I don't GV I have no idea what was the result. Might want to try searching for it.

+1 on the Battleships

HTC does not make the Skins, you can submit a request to the Custom Sounds and Skins section or try to make it your self.

i did say christmas....
and make my own skins hmmmm...design submitted
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9131/orangetank.jpg)
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 12:07:51 PM
i did say christmas....
and make my own skins hmmmm...design submitted
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9131/orangetank.jpg)


Now that you mention it...

(http://s3files.core77.com/blog/images/Balloon-Tank.jpg)
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: DemonFox on May 16, 2011, 01:02:47 PM
Hehe +1000 for the PBY  :banana:
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 01:05:24 PM
Hehe +1000 for the PBY  :banana:

 :bhead
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 16, 2011, 01:46:25 PM
A Ju88 is a PBY with two torpedoes.

 :banana:


wrongway
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Karnak on May 16, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
A Ju88 is a PBY with two torpedoes.

 :banana:


wrongway
Nah, Ju88 is about 100mph too fast....
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: iron650 on May 16, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
Nah, Ju88 is about 100mph too fast....


No the PBY is 100mph too slow...
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 16, 2011, 03:29:51 PM
A Ju88 is a PBY with two torpedoes.

 :banana:


wrongway
you know the 2 torps from a ju88 will not sink a cv... the two torps from a pby would. 3200lb damage per ju88 torp verse 4000lb damage from pby torp.

so u dont need a formation to sink a cv and the pby torp has longer range so it can stay out of 40mm guns reach.
+1 +1 = PBY
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 03:44:10 PM
For all of you who want the PBY because of it's torpedoes:

How many times have you sunk a CV with a torpedo?
What is the percentage of your time spend in AH with a torpedo hunting a CV?



Don't get me wrong I'm all for having a PBY, for ones we'll have something easier than a C-47 to shoot down. But there are so many more things that take priority over a hangar queen.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: StokesAk on May 16, 2011, 03:47:20 PM
How many times have you sunk a CV with a torpedo?

Damage under the waterline is doubles, therefore one of the 2k torps a PBY carries does 4k damage on the CV.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 03:48:27 PM
Damage under the waterline is doubles, therefore one of the 2k torps a PBY carries does 4k damage on the CV.

Roger...
I never said it's impossible, I just asked how many times you've done it.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 16, 2011, 05:11:48 PM
Damage under the waterline is doubles, therefore one of the 2k torps a PBY carries does 4k damage on the CV.

Then the same would be the same for the TBM.


ack-ack
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 05:18:16 PM
Then the same would be for the TBM.


ack-ack

and Ju-88
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: gyrene81 on May 16, 2011, 05:21:18 PM
wasn't the explosive used in the german aerial torpedoes more potent than the tnt that was used in the u.s. aerial torpedoes?

*edit* i guess it depends on which model of torpedo is being used in ah...mark13 mod (?) for the u.s. and f5b 1600 or 1800 lbs (?) for germany...type 91 mod (?) for the japanese.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: DemonFox on May 16, 2011, 08:22:36 PM
Hehe I found a PBY for sale in Illinois. It's been upgraded with 1700 hp engines. I want that one in the game!  :x
And it is only 299,000$  :bolt:
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 16, 2011, 10:30:10 PM
Then the same would be the same for the TBM.


ack-ack

o it is true sir...but  tbm carries one torp while the hot n sexy manifistation of a goddess called the PBY carries 2 torps. capable of delivering 8000lb damage. and no other torp plane can do that kinda damage. it may be slower then others but its dual MADE IN THE USA torps make up for it in spades.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 10:31:29 PM
Hehe I found a PBY for sale in Illinois. It's been upgraded with 1700 hp engines. I want that one in the game!  :x
And it is only 299,000$  :bolt:

Problem solved! Get that one and you'll have no need for AH.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: gyrene81 on May 16, 2011, 10:36:23 PM
o it is true sir...but  tbm carries one torp while the hot n sexy manifistation of a goddess called the PBY carries 2 torps. capable of delivering 8000lb damage. and no other torp plane can do that kinda damage. it may be slower then others but its dual MADE IN THE USA torps make up for it in spades.
how did the damage go from 4000 to 8000 lbs damage with the same plane and same payload?  :headscratch: you should study more...
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 12:24:24 AM
how did the damage go from 4000 to 8000 lbs damage with the same plane and same payload?  :headscratch: you should study more...

ok ill im only going to explain this once

1 U.S. torp is 2000lb...ok

torps do 2x damage

hence 1 U.S. torp does 4000 damage

2000 x 2 = 4000
ok if your still with me this is going to blow your mind

the PBY can carry 2 U.S. torp

2 U.S. torps can do 8000 damage
that is 4000 damage + 4000 damage = 8000 damage and one cv sunk
 :banana: u should work on reading comprehension and some simple math...j/k
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Guppy35 on May 17, 2011, 01:21:08 AM
And a PBY dropped torps at a carrier fleet when?

Find a good reason for a slow cumbersome patrol plane in AH and I'm all for the PBY.  Until then, I'm hard pressed to see the point.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 01:48:45 AM
And a PBY dropped torps at a carrier fleet when?

Find a good reason for a slow cumbersome patrol plane in AH and I'm all for the PBY.  Until then, I'm hard pressed to see the point.

they torped plenty of other stuff...
a so your not upset about it heres a dancing banana
 :banana:
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 17, 2011, 05:22:24 AM
And a PBY dropped torps at a carrier fleet when?

Find a good reason for a slow cumbersome patrol plane in AH and I'm all for the PBY.  Until then, I'm hard pressed to see the point.

The night of June 3, 1942 during the Battle of Midway.  Four amphibious PBYs were dispatched to attack was what thought to be the main fleet made up of cruisers, destroyers, transports and at least one aircraft carrier.  The lead PBY dropped his torpedoes on what the pilot thought to be an aircraft carrier but actually turned out to be the large transport ship Akebono Maru, which was hit but not sunk.

ack-ack 
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: iron650 on May 17, 2011, 06:27:05 AM
The night of June 3, 1942 during the Battle of Midway.  Four amphibious PBYs were dispatched to attack was what thought to be the main fleet made up of cruisers, destroyers, transports and at least one aircraft carrier.  The lead PBY dropped his torpedoes on what the pilot thought to be an aircraft carrier but actually turned out to be the large transport ship Akebono Maru, which was hit but not sunk.

ack-ack 

Devestators, B17s, and SBDs later came. B17s did nothing to the enemy fleet.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: gyrene81 on May 17, 2011, 07:18:17 AM
ok ill im only going to explain this once

1 U.S. torp is 2000lb...ok

torps do 2x damage

hence 1 U.S. torp does 4000 damage

2000 x 2 = 4000
ok if your still with me this is going to blow your mind

the PBY can carry 2 U.S. torp

2 U.S. torps can do 8000 damage
that is 4000 damage + 4000 damage = 8000 damage and one cv sunk
 :banana: u should work on reading comprehension and some simple math...j/k
my reading comprehension is fine...the error was attributing bangsbox's comments to you.   :neener:



Devestators, B17s, and SBDs later came. B17s did nothing to the enemy fleet.
neither did pby's in the grand scheme of things...damage to a single tanker that continued with the rest of the transport fleet...meh

you know why the pby's did a majority of their attacks at night right? they were too slow to risk in daylight.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 17, 2011, 07:19:02 AM
o it is true sir...but  tbm carries one torp while the hot n sexy manifistation of a goddess called the PBY carries 2 torps. capable of delivering 8000lb damage. and no other torp plane can do that kinda damage. it may be slower then others but its dual MADE IN THE USA torps make up for it in spades.

Too bad we don't have a statistical reliability model for those torps, for the early-war us torps were ker-rap and frequently did not detonate.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: 321BAR on May 17, 2011, 09:15:39 AM
you know the 2 torps from a ju88 will not sink a cv...
no...
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 11:42:23 AM
no...
....yes
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 11:49:36 AM

cough...cough. dancing banana  :banana:



Torpedoes (Air Attack)
by Rolex

torpedo damage is double ordnance weight to account for damage under the water line.

One slow torpedo does 4,000 lbs. of damage.
One fast torpedo does 3,520 lbs. of damage.

Sinking cruisers and destroyers requires 2,000 lbs. of damage, so one torpedo of any type will sink an undamaged cruiser or destroyer.
Sinking a CV requires 8,000 lbs., so two slow torpedoes will sink an undamaged CV. Three fast torpedoes will sink an undamaged CV.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 17, 2011, 12:04:00 PM
Devestators, B17s, and SBDs later came. B17s did nothing to the enemy fleet.

The B-17s did not come later.  The B-17s attacked the Japanese ships on the day of June 3rd, the same group of ships that were misidentified earlier as the main fleet. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: 321BAR on May 17, 2011, 12:29:30 PM
....yes
hah... no
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 12:52:05 PM
no...

...yes

the 2 torps from from a ju88 will not sink a CV  :banana:
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: 321BAR on May 17, 2011, 12:55:56 PM
...yes

the 2 torps from from a ju88 will not sink a CV  :banana:
double check that. ive sank CVs with two :aok
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
double check that. ive sank CVs with two :aok

it had damage on it then before you torped it

only 2 U.S. torps can sink a undamaged CV
it takes 3 jap or german
 this is as per the aces high help/training page

Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Krusty on May 17, 2011, 01:13:39 PM
That AH page is woefully out of date. They have tweaked the CV damage a number of times, I believe.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 02:05:22 PM
That AH page is woefully out of date. They have tweaked the CV damage a number of times, I believe.


where is ACK-ACk and lusche when you need them.... they are the guru's
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: iron650 on May 17, 2011, 06:32:12 PM
you know why the pby's did a majority of their attacks at night right? they were too slow to risk in daylight.

In the day it would be like "what's that slow glint? It's not friendly." and Bang! The PBY pilot would be like  :O.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: 321BAR on May 17, 2011, 08:00:33 PM
it had damage on it then before you torped it

only 2 U.S. torps can sink a undamaged CV
it takes 3 jap or german
 this is as per the aces high help/training page


CVs require 4,000lbs of damage. All other ships i believe require 1K. could be 2K but i remember taking out a CA with 6 HVARs once
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: iron650 on May 18, 2011, 06:32:57 AM
...yes

the 2 torps from from a ju88 will not sink a CV  :banana:


Then bring a formation of Ju88s.
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 18, 2011, 10:24:31 AM
CVs require 4,000lbs of damage. All other ships i believe require 1K. could be 2K but i remember taking out a CA with 6 HVARs once

that's just wrong
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Plawranc on May 18, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
I could prob throw rocks at a CV and sink it. incidently.

(http://theballast.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/water-balloon-slingshot-1.jpg)

I need to get back to the RockNRoll volleyball guys.  :devil
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Tyrannis on May 18, 2011, 05:54:37 PM
if the King Tiger gets put in, then the Pershing deserves to be put in too. :pray
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 19, 2011, 02:28:37 AM
if the King Tiger gets put in, then the Pershing deserves to be put in too. :pray

king tigers saw alot more action...alot more then pershing. if anything IS1 should be added with king tiger
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Tyrannis on May 19, 2011, 03:03:04 AM
king tigers saw alot more action...alot more then pershing. if anything IS1 should be added with king tiger
you point?

the pershing saw enough action to qualify to be in the game.

it was a medium tank made with the specific purpose of engaging heavies.


if i remember correctly, there was a famous showdown between a super pershing vs king tiger. (one of the tank guys prob know what im talking about)

king tiger got the first shot in, but the pershing ended up winning the shoot out.


im still wanting my 105mm sherman tho.  :pray
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: 7super61 on May 20, 2011, 12:11:29 PM
my grand father helped designed the PBY
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: B-17 on May 21, 2011, 05:10:10 PM
eeehh...not a torpedo bomber...how about the sunderland?  :bolt:
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on May 22, 2011, 01:30:25 PM
For all of you who want the PBY because of it's torpedoes:

How many times have you sunk a CV with a torpedo?

+10
Title: Re: dear: santa..cough...cough Hitech
Post by: bangsbox on May 28, 2011, 12:50:10 AM
i torp all the time and for the first time ever i recorded it/ lived and it hit when i remembered to record it :cool: