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Title: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: icepac on May 16, 2011, 05:26:59 PM
Hmmm.....maybe cv enabled?

(http://www.ahoy.tk-jk.net/ImagesJan20_2007/FaireyFirefly.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 05:28:20 PM
 :O That is one ugly plane    :devil

As far as I know if was a heavy fighter who's main mission was hunting for subs. Since we don't have subs we have no use for that feature, and I don't think it would make a good fighter. I'd prefer to have a Seafire mk III.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: iron650 on May 16, 2011, 08:09:46 PM
The Firefly was used in anti-shipping raids and also, provided air cover for the sinking of the Tirpitz.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: DemonFox on May 16, 2011, 08:23:53 PM
Hehe I'd prefer the SwordFish  :aok
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: olds442 on May 16, 2011, 08:30:20 PM
Hehe I'd prefer the SwordFish  :aok
*falls out of chair shocked that demon fox did not say PBY*
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 09:00:08 PM
*falls out of chair shocked that demon fox did not say PBY*


:rofl
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Guppy35 on May 16, 2011, 09:19:00 PM
Problem is you are posting a pic of the Korean war version.  The WW2 version is not nearly that nice.  Think Spit I vs Spit 16

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/firefly_i_459.jpg)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: JUGgler on May 16, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
Problem is you are posting a pic of the Korean war version.  The WW2 version is not nearly that nice.  Think Spit I vs Spit 16

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/firefly_i_459.jpg)

Are those hispanos though?   :O



JUGgler
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 09:24:53 PM
Problem is you are posting a pic of the Korean war version.  The WW2 version is not nearly that nice.  Think Spit I vs Spit 16

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/firefly_i_459.jpg)

Still -1
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Karnak on May 16, 2011, 09:41:40 PM
Saw significant use in WWII and was the first British aircraft to fly over Tokyo. It has a place in AH for sure, but not a really high priority.

Post war, with the radiators in the wing roots, it is quite an attractive aircraft.  WWII version with the radiator under the nose, hideously ugly.

And yes, it was armed with four Hispano Mk IIs.  Ordnance was two 1000lb bombs or eight 60lb rockets.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 09:44:55 PM
Post war, with the radiators in the wing roots, it is quite an attractive aircraft.

You should really like that Spitfire than...
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Karnak on May 16, 2011, 09:50:37 PM
You should really like that Spitfire than...
???

Spitfires are one of my favorite aircraft.  I signed up to WarBirds, and later Aces High, just to fly simulated Spitfires.  I was one of the biggest advocates for the Spitfire Mk XIV to be added and posted my thoughts on what the Spitfire lineup should be in AH, a lineup that was very similar to what we ended up with.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: MachFly on May 16, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
???

Spitfires are one of my favorite aircraft.  I signed up to WarBirds, and later Aces High, just to fly simulated Spitfires.  I was one of the biggest advocates for the Spitfire Mk XIV to be added and posted my thoughts on what the Spitfire lineup should be in AH, a lineup that was very similar to what we ended up with.

Ah, did not know that.

Well I'm glad to know that I'm not the only ones who loves the Spit14  :aok
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: icepac on May 17, 2011, 12:34:18 AM
???

Spitfires are one of my favorite aircraft.  I signed up to WarBirds, and later Aces High, just to fly simulated Spitfires.  I was one of the biggest advocates for the Spitfire Mk XIV to be added and posted my thoughts on what the Spitfire lineup should be in AH, a lineup that was very similar to what we ended up with.


That's similar to my motivation for Warbirds and Aces High except I signed up to shoot down the spitfire using planes thought inferior and rarely flown...............well..... actually....I signed up to shoot down spits, f4u, la7, p51, tempests, 163s and the new b29.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 12:49:58 AM
defiant first
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Guppy35 on May 17, 2011, 01:17:45 AM
defiant first

Why?
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: iron650 on May 17, 2011, 06:34:11 AM
Hmmm.....maybe cv enabled?

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I believe they were CV launched.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Noir on May 17, 2011, 06:40:47 AM
P40 and spitfire made a kid...some chromosome went wrong tho  :lol
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 17, 2011, 07:14:44 AM
Why?

Why not?

I like it but really, in order to foster the kind of action in which this a/c would be most useful AND to foster a useful place for torp-pigs like the Beau, Barracuda, Swordfish, Ventura, etc. we need convoys and convoy raiders (subs and surface bruisers like Eugen, Scharnhorst, Bis/Tirp). Imagine the possibilities: recreating Taranto, pounding Tirp in the fjords, ravaging a Japanese gaggle of Marus, hammering the Repulse, PW/Hood vs. Eugen/Bis... What could be wrong with any of it?
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 17, 2011, 11:57:51 AM
It would be nice to have.  Thing is though, I cant tell if the Firefly was able to carry 2 bombs and 8 rockets, or if it was limited to 1 loading at a time?

If it were limited to rockets OR bombs, it really is just a slower (by 50mph) Typhoon.  If it could carry both the 2/1k bombs and 8 rockets at the same time that would be 1 nasty carrier based attack plane.  Wow. 

I vote the carrier based Mossi first!!!   :)
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: bangsbox on May 17, 2011, 02:17:56 PM
Why?
not
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Guppy35 on May 17, 2011, 02:53:40 PM
Again, there is a reason the Defiant didn't work.  Too heavy, too slow, no forward firing guns etc.  those guys who took them into combat for that short time until they were wiped out were essentially sent to their deaths.  The Defiant was a disaster.

The why not answer from two of ya, clearly shows you know this, or have not clue as to the history of the Defiant.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 17, 2011, 03:08:31 PM
It's kewl to send a cartoon pilot out in a substandard piece of crap.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: waystin2 on May 17, 2011, 03:11:59 PM
+1 to the Fairey.  +1 to letting HTC decide it's priority for inclusion.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Guppy35 on May 17, 2011, 03:23:34 PM
It's kewl to send a cartoon pilot out in a substandard piece of crap.

I won't disagree with you there.  And there are plenty of birds available that fill that role quite nicely in AH :)

In terms of adding another that has no particular use in the game either MA or special events, I don't much see the point.  And no, don't say Battle of Britain.  It was up and gone from that fight in a hurry.  I'd doubt many folks would sign up to fly a Defiant in a limited life event knowing how fast those lives would be gone, and their chance of any kind of success very limited.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 17, 2011, 04:45:23 PM
I won't disagree with you there.  And there are plenty of birds available that fill that role quite nicely in AH :)

In terms of adding another that has no particular use in the game either MA or special events, I don't much see the point.  And no, don't say Battle of Britain.  It was up and gone from that fight in a hurry.  I'd doubt many folks would sign up to fly a Defiant in a limited life event knowing how fast those lives would be gone, and their chance of any kind of success very limited.

I agree with you more or less, which is why I conditioned the addition on prior development of convoys/shipping. As for the Defiant, though, first thing I'd try to do were I put in one of those deathtraps is try to find some Hurris to hang around with. Mixed like so, you'd have a prayer, espcially if you could stay on a Hurri's six.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: bangsbox on May 18, 2011, 12:50:03 PM
Again, there is a reason the Defiant didn't work.  Too heavy, too slow, no forward firing guns etc.  those guys who took them into combat for that short time until they were wiped out were essentially sent to their deaths.  The Defiant was a disaster.

The why not answer from two of ya, clearly shows you know this, or have not clue as to the history of the Defiant.

we need more suicide fighters....and hey it could be my new perk farmer
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Karnak on May 18, 2011, 02:14:54 PM
we need more suicide fighters....and hey it could be my new perk farmer
"and hey it could be my new perk farmer " implies that it could be a successful fighter, if flown with skill.  I do not believe that to be true.  The Defiant has little to nothing going for it, being slow, underpowered, under gunned and awkward in the extreme.
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Martyn on May 19, 2011, 07:43:32 AM
Fairey Battle!

That was cooooool  :aok

It had a machine gun ... :rock      :huh
Title: Re: Fairey Firefly?
Post by: Vudu15 on May 20, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307658.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,307658.0.html)

from a few months ago.