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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: Kovel on May 17, 2011, 04:59:17 PM
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I checked out that i was flying with any auto-X OFF. Stall limiter enabled was checked...but it is still working while I fly...
I filmed it.
Please help me!
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Stall limiter enabled was checked...but it is still working while I fly...
Yep, it says "Enable Stall Limiter"...and if you have it checked, it is enabled. :headscratch:
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I think what he found was that if you launch an aircraft and change options like the stall limiter, they don't take immediate effect.
The launch you make loads the options made before any changes. So if you are in an aircraft ready to take off and decide to make changes you need to land again before those changes take effect.
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Sorry.
I made a mistake explaining the problem, due to the fact that I'm not english mother-tounge.
I meant the "Enable stall limiter" was uncheked. So the problem is actually there.
And... I didn't change the set-up while in flight. This have been unchecked for a long time.
:frown:
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You should not have a problem with the stall limiter. You have started another thread because of some other software you are using that is causing a problem
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,312609.msg4048581.html#msg4048581 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,312609.msg4048581.html#msg4048581)
I think you should continue to resolve any problems with your other software first. Keep an eye on the Bug Report forum in case other people have a similar problem with the stall limiter.
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You should not have a problem with the stall limiter. You have started another thread because of some other software you are using that is causing a problem
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,312609.msg4048581.html#msg4048581 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,312609.msg4048581.html#msg4048581)
I think you should continue to resolve any problems with your other software first. Keep an eye on the Bug Report forum in case other people have a similar problem with the stall limiter.
"Shane" had the same problem in 2007.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,98888.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,98888.0.html)
I didn't say "it's a problem with another software". I just was wondering if this bug could be caused by another software. But Shane had the same problem in 2007, so I guess It's not linked to TracknoIR software.
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I have just tried it myself - (Since the last patch) and find it is working normally on my pc.
There is a major difference with it enabled in the Spit16. With the stick held back fully (From low speeds), I find the worse the aircraft does with it enabled is a spiral dive, which it pulls out of easily. With it off I can get into a Spin easily and snap roll type effects.
You seem pretty sure it has nothing to do with your other software so, assuming you have checked it yourself with stall limiter checked and unchecked, I would be inclined to give as much detail as you can and report it in the Bug Forum.
Your link to Shane's problem is a thread in 2003 - Somehow I think whatever the problem was then, it got fixed.
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Blagard,
Thank you very much for trying
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Kovel, how do you know it is not off? How are you testing it and what are your results?
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Kovel, how do you know it is not off? How are you testing it and what are your results?
I can upload the film here if it helps....
I tested it flying a Dora, zooming with it nose up until speed is below 100 mph, then nose can't go higher anymore, I try to keep it high but gravity wins and it falls without any spin or stall. Second time I tried it, when the speed is under 100 I pull stick hard....plane make a tiny spin but it recovers for itself in 2-3 seconds...
When stall limiter is off....well, I can't get under 100 without losing control of the plane...and in order to recover, I need to push stick, chop throttle and give opposite rudder.....and pray...
There's a big difference in behaviour
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Combat trim will also ease stalls and spins in some planes. Are running with it on now, when you may have had it off before?
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Combat trim will also ease stalls and spins in some planes. Are running with it on now, when you may have had it off before?
No Sir.... checked it was off. Anyway....after what you've just said....there's also a chance that what is working is the combat trim, even though It is off....
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No Sir.... checked it was off. Anyway....after what you've just said....there's also a chance that what is working is the combat trim, even though It is off....
Very easy to check combat trim. If your trim indicators in the cockpit are moving around on their own while you manouvre, it's on. If its off they will remain fixed. If you have any auto trim turned on, your manouvres will disengage it.
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Very easy to check combat trim. If your trim indicators in the cockpit are moving around on their own while you manouvre, it's on. If its off they will remain fixed. If you have any auto trim turned on, your manouvres will disengage it.
There is also a light in the cockpit, usually with "CT" next to it. This indicates whether
or not combat trim (CT) is on on (light on) or off (light off).
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There is also a light in the cockpit, usually with "CT" next to it. This indicates whether
or not combat trim (CT) is on on (light on) or off (light off).
True, but his query was
...there's also a chance that what is working is the combat trim, even though It is off....
So if he switches it off and gets his text buffer message and the light goes out. The moving trims will check if it is truely off or not. - Unless of course his trims are also messed up.
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My trims indicators are fixed...so combat trim is off when it shopuld be off.
So...the issue has to do with stall limiter.
Maybe I should upload the film in order you could check wether the movements there can be done with stall limiter off or not.
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Why not film two shorts flights in one film. The first with stall limiter unchecked off, the second with it checked on. Try the same high G manouvres at lowish speeds.
Use your normal ride.
That way you have the comparison for yourself to review and anybody else.
Confirm the Stall limiter condition in the text buffer before you launch each flight.
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Interesting suggest.....I'll do it.
Anyway.....I can't see any buffer text about switching off/on stall limiter :uhoh
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Anyway.....I can't see any buffer text about switching off/on stall limiter :uhoh
You won't on the stall limiter. You have to type it in as a text radio message to get it in the buffer .... It will show on the film what condition you have set before take off.
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I have to apologize.....
While I was making the film I noticed that 190D9 DOESN'T stall if "stall limiter" is ON. No matter the speed you go and the G's you pull. It never stalls.
When stall limiter is OFF, at speeds near 0 and high joystick pull, 190D9 STALLS, and I recover control in less than a second.
So, there is a difference.
The problem is that it is so difficult to lose control of Dora at speeds near zero that I thought stall limiter had a bug.
Thanks a lot for your time and help.....and guiding me to the right way.
Salute!