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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: badhorse on May 22, 2011, 01:45:59 PM
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BaldEagl's post was locked for a violation of rule 4. Not sure why, he was stating an opinion many share. This one will probably get locked too because I agree with it.
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It wasn't the opinion as much as HOW that opinion was stated. It sounded a bit of a flame and certainly sounded disrespectful.
A couple of things from the other thread that can be addressed:
"Now when I launch to a spawn I'm not even sure which direction I need to go until I get moving." - This has not changed; you always face the direction of the spawn. If the spawn is SW, you'll spawn in facing SW. If that spawn puts you NW of a base, you'd have to turn approx. 90 degrees left to the SE to face the base. If that spawn puts you SW of a base, you'd have to turn approx 180 degrees to the NE to face the base. You seldom spawn in facing the enemy.
"I hope a revamp of strat is coming up. I'd like to see maps with trains running all over the map, not just 100s of miles deep into enemy territory." - We'll probably not see a major change to the strats for some time to come. When terrains are built, trains are the supply line for strat targets and truck convoys are used for bases. You can't just put train tracks all over the place, but I suppose there's no real reason you can't make trains supply bases too. But, it's all up to the map makers and HTC's approval of them once submitted.
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badhorse: Your post is no problem, it is stated in a simple direct manner. Do you really think BaldEagl's was?
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The delivery of the fact, opinion, or observation is just as important as the data itself.
I was going to point out the W/S and speed/cornering issues, compass bearings, etc. I was in the middle of responding to that thread when it got locked. :furious ;)
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because I agree with it.
Give it a year, maybe even 6 months and no one will remember what it used to be like anyway. Thats just the way we roll around here.
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Hitech I didn't see what BaldEagle posted....but what I know of him ..is that he is a class act and welcome at my door anytime. 999000 <S>
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Hitech I didn't see what BaldEagle posted....but what I know of him ..is that he is a class act and welcome at my door anytime. 999000 <S>
HiTech didn't delete it. It is the locked thread down below about not liking the new GV system.
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Let's face it, it WAS disrespectful of the work all the staff at HTC do. If someone comes to me and tell me I don't know how to work and/or my work is a load of crap(sic), I'll find him quite insulting. It was a whine thread until the last part. That's when it got disrespectful. And besides, he claims things doesn't work as advertised when they clearly do. How they do NOT work, is the old way.
setting a desired speed with 'w' will do the same than fiddling needlessly with gears
My old car didn't do dis!
uh...yeah but it's your NEW car...not the old one...
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Let's face it, it WAS disrespectful of the work all the staff at HTC do. If someone comes to me and tell me I don't know how to work and/or my work is a load of crap(sic), I'll find him quite insulting. It was a whine thread until the last part. That's when it got disrespectful. And besides, he claims things doesn't work as advertised when they clearly do. How they do NOT work, is the old way.
setting a desired speed with 'w' will do the same than fiddling needlessly with gears
My old car didn't do dis!
uh...yeah but it's your NEW car...not the old one...
That makes sense to me :aok
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The delivery of the fact, opinion, or observation is just as important as the data itself.
I was going to point out the W/S and speed/cornering issues, compass bearings, etc. I was in the middle of responding to that thread when it got locked. :furious ;)
I don't think there was or ever has been an issue with a player voicing an opinion. Like most things there is a right way and a wrong way to do it.
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I don't think there was or ever has been an issue with a player voicing an opinion. Like most things there is a right way and a wrong way to do it.
Was than an echo I heard??? ;)
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It's entirely possible, I'm running a little slow today. Well, slower than usual.
:)
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im sorry too hitech, but i gotta agree. i mean, i like the commander position, and i like the new gunsights for tanks, but why make it more like world of tanks? i gave up WoT for AH ground war, and then i find out that its been made to be just like WoT's? :uhoh
and alos buff gunning, please hitech, im begging you, take it back to what it was. it feels like mouse users got screwed over so bad with this setup. this turrets dont move as smoothly as they used too. its all spontaniously, and jumpy. it was so much better with the old gunning mechanics.
or atleast maybe create a way to choose which type of mechanics we want to use? :salute
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Clearly I regret the wording of last part of my post. I don't always agree with the changes that HT makes but I could have worded that much differently. On balance HT and staff do more good work than bad. I guess it's just the parts you don't like that get to you and as I typed I got a bit worked up over it. On a related note I also have to refrain from posting after I've been drinking a little too much. It gets me in trouble on occasion.
I still don't like the GV changes very much. I wish I could keep my clipboard open, that I could steer with my joystick (x/y axis) and that I had manual gear selection. On the joystick part how about a mode switch to use it either for steering with x/y or gunning with x/y with rudder steering enabled. I also don't like the mouse look thing. Last night I was trying to load GV suppies and my turret was swinging to the top left of my screen as I moved the mouse up there to click on load supplies. I also noticed that you can't calibrate the new gunsights with your clipboard up and, as mentioned in my other post you can't get out of first gear until you close your clipbaord. You also can no longer use your cursor to set a sight in a flak gun so for the most part your shooting either blind or without a sight. I know there's more but these are a few examples of what I'm not too excited about.
I don't think these are whines. I think they are fundamental problems with the new system that make it less fun to GV.
[EDIT] I wasn't going to post this but then decided to anyway.
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rudder control for steering and joystick for aiming is in place now baldeagle....as for the as for the mouse cursor and collecting sups yeah that is a little crazy...I just up the clipboard and put it to the side of screen....lets mouse cursor do what you want then and can still drive around.
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For me using rudders for steering is worse than wasd mapped to my jstick. But I guess for the current commanders view there is no other way.
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On balance HT and staff do more good work than bad.
jeeze man. Do you know how insulting this is? Quit after the first beat down :lol
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im sorry too hitech, but i gotta agree. i mean, i like the commander position, and i like the new gunsights for tanks, but why make it more like world of tanks? i gave up WoT for AH ground war, and then i find out that its been made to be just like WoT's? :uhoh
and alos buff gunning, please hitech, im begging you, take it back to what it was. it feels like mouse users got screwed over so bad with this setup. this turrets dont move as smoothly as they used too. its all spontaniously, and jumpy. it was so much better with the old gunning mechanics.
or atleast maybe create a way to choose which type of mechanics we want to use? :salute
:bhead Please tell the entire thread you seriously do not mean what you wrote.
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For me using rudders for steering is worse than wasd mapped to my jstick. But I guess for the current commanders view there is no other way.
this is how I used to drive them so it isn't much of a change for me other than I get a better view and when I jump into my turret it is pointed in the direction I was looking (from the commanders position)....aiming is still something I am working on with the new set up but I'll get there...was never a great GV'er but a little better than I am at present....I do like the ability to control the speed...that was the only issue I used to have with the old system..going ful speed, head out the top looking around and if I didn't drop a gear or two before I jumped into the turret by the time I traversed the turret into position.....I would be going too fast to get a good bead on them...but on the upside....they had to allow for my speed too.
after some more time it wil be like it has been this way since the start.....just takes some time to adapt and overcome....got to have the attitude of ..she'll be right mate to get through sometimes. Something I have forgotten to do lately..as some would have noticed with all my crying
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I still don't like the GV changes very much. I wish I could keep my clipboard open, that I could steer with my joystick (x/y axis) and that I had manual gear selection.
You can still control what gear your tanks is in with the W and S key's just tap a few times till you're in the gear you want to be in then leave it along and it will continue to chug along in that gear.
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:bhead Please tell the entire thread you seriously do not mean what you wrote.
i do,
ive spent 6 yrs flying AH with a mouse, got it down to atleast stand a chance against some of the uber sticks.
and buff gunning with a mouse was so smooth. now the turret mechanics just dont feel the same. i dont like it.
so yea, i do mean it, and i'll say it again, mouse users got screwed over in this update.
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I love the changes. Of course I never spent much time gving because I had trouble spotting tanks at the distances that you HAD to shot at. My aim also sucked. Now the firing ranges are closer, I can see better, and with the control as they are it is MUCH easier to run and gun!
I of all people know how much "change" sucks :devil but if I can learn to get use to hordes and HOs and skilless fights, a few changes in how the GV world works should be a piece of cake!
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i do,
ive spent 6 yrs flying AH with a mouse, got it down to atleast stand a chance against some of the uber sticks.
and buff gunning with a mouse was so smooth. now the turret mechanics just dont feel the same. i dont like it.
so yea, i do mean it, and i'll say it again, mouse users got screwed over in this update.
I'm fairly certain you can gun bomber EXACTLY as before with a mouse. As before you have to activate it and not use the combo mode of JS and mouse. I.E. you must make your mouse look like it is being used as a JS just like flying.
BaldEagle the clip board will not effect the W. You can leave it the entire time all controls will work as normal except the mouse.
Also the vehicles DO down shift when going up hill if they need to. If you don't like them shifting up and then down simply tap w or s when at the RPM and gear you wish.
HiTech
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Last night I was trying to load GV suppies and my turret was swinging to the top left of my screen as I moved the mouse up there to click on load supplies.
Just tap the "Enter" button and gv supplies magically load.
wrongway
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i stopped using the GV's altogether after the asdw thing came out. but now that they re-enabled using the rudder and joystick again, for me its been a great addition. we were using the tanks the other night and it was alot of fun. the new aspects of the controls bring a fun change to the game.
i like what they have done, and will try to utilize it by having some sort of tank battle in the near future in the AVA!