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General Forums => Films and Screenshots => Topic started by: LCADolby on May 23, 2011, 12:17:04 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UP9IF6RoR0
As you requested Banshee5 I have posted the video you requested in pm and on 200
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perfect 262 takedown :D
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May not have intended to collide just get a shot as you pass.
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perfect 262 takedown :D
You'd've thrown a spatula or a whisk at it :old:
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He was probably trying to correct for the missing wing he was just inflicted, if you don't want to be rammed, don't go head on with people. :bolt:
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You'd've thrown a spatula or a whisk at it :old:
Yep...they can cause great damage when they go through a jet intake....mind you...getting them in there is another story.
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if you don't want to be rammed, don't go head on with people.
:joystick:
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looked like a good tackle.
when your flying a 262 you can't take a head on pass and expect to get away with it. It looked like you were going so fast in the dive there was very little time to take the shot and get out of the way. intentional or not I would do anything in my power to bring down an enemy 262 and laugh at you afterwards.
You take off knowing the risks so you can't give crap to good pilots like banshee for making any attempt for a shot.
ACM is about getting clean 6 shots not a game of chicken.
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Are you saying you actively support ramming planes out of the sky Bruv? (If they are 262s)
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Are you saying you actively support ramming planes out of the sky Bruv?
yes when they are in a 262. I know when I fly it I am practically untouchable so any chance the 262 pilot gives you, you have to take it.
to be fair to banshee he turned around and opened fire before the ram so that suggests to me you either didn't see him change direction because you were closing at a rate of knots or if you did see him turn it around, you could have rolled out and not proceeded to line up the shot (playing chicken)
You also appear to hold fire well into his gun solution. I think you could have lobbed the 30mm high and still hit him with enough room to move out of the way.
Look at it this way your doing what 500? banshee has looped and would be close to stall, you are the one that has to give way or risk it for a chocolate biscuit. If anything you collided with him. :D
the kick of the rudder may have been another mistake it does nothing to change the direction of travel except skid sideways into him at the last second. A little shove forward or pull up, roll, duck whatever would have been better.
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I didn't fathom that his chocolate biscuit was going to use it's nose as a ramming device to shatter my pastry.
It wasn't until I was rammed did I hear on local it was his second 262 ram. Had I heard pre-dive, I would've pulled up at 1000 yards.
This HOing to ram, as a defence is on the increase. 262 or not, I find it dispiseable that pilots are using it as a shortcut to score kills.
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I didn't fathom that his chocolate biscuit was going to use it's nose as a ramming device to shatter my pastry.
It wasn't until I was rammed did I hear on local it was his second 262 ram. Had I heard pre-dive, I would've pulled up at 1000 yards.
This HOing to ram, as a defence is on the increase. 262 or not, I find it dispiseable that pilots are using it as a shortcut to score kills.
Its not a shortcut to score kills. Its a short cut to piss in your cheerios.
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good on him then, nothing more annoying than jet dweebs spoiling a good fight.
HO-rams have happened since day one, two coksure fighter pilots point their guns at each other, neither breaks what do you get ;)
People sometimes accuse me of head ons, in reality i'm zoomed in on them from way out, if they turn to meet me then I will side step them, pass the shot up, reverse and kill. If they think they are about to merge and I kick the rudder and kill them before they can say "chit i just lost my 262" then more fool them. A Front quarter that they didn't prepare for. I'm a firm believer in the "it takes two to HO" philosophy.
Sometimes I get burn't because of lag or the fact they just about manage to close their turn when i'm about to fire but it looked like you chose to play chicken. You tell us? did you see him complete his loop or not?
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Contemptible nonsense.
But in answer to your question I dont remember seeing him looping up to HO me. I was more than likely checking fuel and the clipboard briefly
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As i see it, ;ack of SA to see the oncoming craft until it was to late to move resulted in a headon which Ended both pilots sorties. In the case that Banshee is at fault, he is not. It was clearly an attempt to get a shot on a high E 262. The only 2 ways to kill a 262 in this state is get a snapshot from a deflection, or go head on and hope for the best. Once the 262's tater impacted the wing of the P38 in this film there is no way he would havebeen able to change flight path even if he wanted too. The 262 on the other hand is only doing 500mph in the dive which is no where near the speed that compression or compression like symptoms start to occur. You also did not fire a shot until he was d400. At the point of impact you attempted to make a rudder adjustment to the left but let go of it just before impact. There was no evidence that you attempted to pull up or roll once you fired in any atempt to avoid the ram.
When flying a 262 you must be able to think faster than the average pilot in order to make your shots, and avoid the enemy at the increased speed.
Case dismissed.
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the P38 in this film there is no way he would have been able to change flight path even if he wanted too.
The P38 wanted to, and did so..
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It's a game...get over it. Does anyone really care? You dove, he climbed. You waited until you were too close to move yourself out of the way before firing on him. Bad move; learn from it and move on. Making the movie, posting it here, and expecting sympathy was a waste of your time...and now a waste of mine. :cry
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only took 5 mins, and my TV dinner was cooking
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Fair enough...it took 5 minutes to read this thread and watch the video. :D
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The P38 wanted to, and did so..
I have flown many a P38, and it is quite difficult to change direction when you are missing a wing.
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That doesnt look intentional at all...it looks like hes trying to drop to get our of your LOF.....dont cherry pick nub. (Haven't played in like a year, but I still played like 6 years so I win)
-BigBOBCH
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killed him and green in 1 burst today over TT.nice job flying into my stream of 20mm
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In my own opinion anyway, it looked like an untentional ram. I know when I am upside down and hear damage to my plane, I usually have habit of pulling up and try to get control of my plane.
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I didn't fathom that his chocolate biscuit was going to use it's nose as a ramming device to shatter my pastry.
It wasn't until I was rammed did I hear on local it was his second 262 ram. Had I heard pre-dive, I would've pulled up at 1000 yards.
This HOing to ram, as a defence is on the increase. 262 or not, I find it dispiseable that pilots are using it as a shortcut to score kills.
Quick, look in the mirror, are you maintaining a straight face?
Just wondering :headscratch:
262s deserve all the dispicable treatment available :aok
JUGgler
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:O This thread again shows the great wisdom of the founding member of The Few, my FPH. :)
One day I hope to have such wisdom. :salute :D
Twintail makes a great point as well, hard to control an aircraft with part of it's wing missing.
:old: Banshee is the good guy :angel: in this one. No purposeful ram on his part.
How many more posts before I graduate from Zinc status? :headscratch:
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what the hell man
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:O This thread again shows the great wisdom of the founding member of The Few, my FPH. :)
One day I hope to have such wisdom. :salute :D
Twintail makes a great point as well, hard to control an aircraft with part of it's wing missing.
:old: Banshee is the good guy :angel: in this one. No purposeful ram on his part.
How many more posts before I graduate from Zinc status? :headscratch:
Hundred more...
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Dolby, you don't quite understand a lot of the complexities of online MMO gaming. You can't say he rammed unless you look at HIS front end... He may have been in a suicidal HO-tard mode (no denying that) with no care of whether he lived or not, but intentionally ramming you?
No, you can't tell that from your film. Why? Because on HIS film he may have had 100 extra yards to avoid you. You were already further ahead on your end than he was, and he was already further ahead than where you saw it. Maybe by a lot, maybe by a little, but it still remains that he and you saw 2 different things and that will screw up almost all ram attempts.
I vote for "I'm dying might as well HO the bastage!" instead of "I'm going to ram him now!"....
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I vote for "I'm dying might as well HO the bastage!" instead of "I'm going to ram him now!"....
I'm more for the "He's in a 262, I can't catch him, he's not gonna dogfight, and if he's gonna be in my gunsight I'm pulling the trigger till he or I am dead!"
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I'm more for the "He's in a 262, I can't catch him, he's not gonna dogfight, and if he's gonna be in my gunsight I'm pulling the trigger till he or I am dead!"
Keep in mind Canacka he's nose high, inverted because he's lost his wingtip and rolled over. Might not even have been able to fire the trigger :P
It's like when I lose a wingtip and the guy that did it swings around in front of me 2 seconds later... I'm gonna lay on the trigger hoping to get revenge! :airplane:
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Oh I wasn't disagreeing at all bro! Just thought I'd add a third option in there! At least for me whenever a 262 is in the area, that's whats going through my mind!
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They often never come down to my alts so I just ignore 'em. Dodge a weak pick attempt here and keep going on with my bidness of killin' their buds.
Dang... this makes me want to up a 262 now! Just to screw with peoples' minds! I might try flying an entire combat sortie without ever firing my guns! :neener:
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Just whatched the film.
Banshee pulled up to head on the altmunky, 500mph 262. He lost the HO, but Dolby epicly failed to avoid his wreck. Banshee could do NOTHING in that situations. He had no control over that wingless wreckage what was spinning over.
Plus he lost the outer wing after the collision, the one what was farther from the 262s path... so?? Was he trying to directly ramm? Nope. "lag effects on gameplay"
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What exactly is wrong with bashing ones face into a 262 anyway?
Jets deserve all forms of disdain and malice, If Banshee had not turned nose on you'd have shot him regardless, hell it looks as if you were intent on HOing anyway. I will do anything I can to pull my nose to face a jet! :devil It is the jet drivers responsibility to avoid all forms of death.
The moral here is, Banshee felt much better than you after your Ho attempt. Trade a 38 for a jet? I say "lawz yes" :rock
JUGgler