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Title: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: BMathis on May 27, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
Wondered if any of you arm chair pilots have constructed one of these for AH yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBt77mGnyfI&feature=player_embedded

It would be so fun right?!!!

Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: lyric1 on May 27, 2011, 10:32:29 AM
I have seen this before. How ever I have a hard time believing a GP vehicle would be pulling that much of a degree change on a flat race track just from breaking & accelerating.

In AHII I would imagine a lot of motion sickness is in the cards with that unit. :D
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: jd on May 27, 2011, 10:34:07 AM
Set it up to go inverted like Tommy Lee's drumset, barrel rolls etc, OMG :x
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: PFactorDave on May 27, 2011, 10:39:43 AM
I have seen this before. How ever I have a hard time believing a GP vehicle would be pulling that much of a degree change on a flat race track just from breaking & accelerating.


The big movements are how they simulate the "push you back into your seat" effect when accelerating.  For it to work best, I think it needs to be enclosed so the user doesn't have the visual reference of being able to see the rest of the room.
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Scca on May 27, 2011, 10:40:05 AM
I have seen this before. How ever I have a hard time believing a GP vehicle would be pulling that much of a degree change on a flat race track just from breaking & accelerating.

I think the change is more to simulate G forces..  F1 cars produce 5+ G's in a turn, 4 braking, and 1,5 on acceleration.  Of course this chair would only produce a max < 1.....   :D
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Scca on May 27, 2011, 10:40:52 AM
For it to work best, I think it needs to be enclosed so the user doesn't have the visual reference of being able to see the rest of the room.
Now THAT would increase the barf factor....
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Lepape2 on May 27, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
With virtual reality googles... this would be  :O
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: VonMessa on May 27, 2011, 11:19:08 AM
Wondered if any of you arm chair pilots have constructed one of these for AH yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBt77mGnyfI&feature=player_embedded

It would be so fun right?!!!



I'm too busy building a real airplane  :P
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: morfiend on May 27, 2011, 11:22:25 AM
I'm too busy building a real airplane  :P



   I'd have thought you'd be worried that the simpit would spill your beer,we cant have that now can we!


    :lol




    :salute
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: VonMessa on May 27, 2011, 11:27:59 AM


   I'd have thought you'd be worried that the simpit would spill your beer,we cant have that now can we!


    :lol




    :salute

You can't spill an I.V. drip.    :devil
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: morfiend on May 27, 2011, 11:30:10 AM
You can't spill an I.V. drip.    :devil



   :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Seanaldinho on May 27, 2011, 12:23:37 PM
I've flown in a simlike this before where it was enclosed and they called it a "3 axis simulator".
During the flight you had full control of a corsair and had enemy zeros to shoot at.  :devil

Was pretty beast for the 5 minutes you get in it.  :airplane:
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: MachFly on May 27, 2011, 12:33:06 PM
Most people have it programmed unrealistic, and it's going to be very difficult programming it to give you the real feel. Most of the time you see that the chair banks as aircraft banks, that is not right the chair should remain in the same spot, but as the aircraft accelerates the chair should pitch up to give you that feel. Now you need to make sure the chair will pitch up the right amount of degrees to give you the right feel for acceleration and so on.

I used a realistic one before (FAA designation: class D sim), but it was a few million dollars so they did not let me take it home  :cry.
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: kilz on May 27, 2011, 12:39:10 PM
now lets look at the price tag on something like this
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: VAMPIRE 2? on May 27, 2011, 01:17:42 PM
yeah I saw this on crazy toejam website and thought to myself, "I wonder when that contraption is going to LAUNCH that guy out the window"! lol  looks like fun
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: muzik on May 27, 2011, 02:32:18 PM
Sweet. And economical too.

I used a single seat, F-16 simulator version of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1t5fYlwhe0&feature=related  years ago. Shame I dont see them around anymore.
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Reaper90 on May 27, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
I think the change is more to simulate G forces..  F1 cars produce 5+ G's in a turn, 4 braking, and 1,5 on acceleration.  Of course this chair would only produce a max < 1.....   :D

This. To accurately impart the true g-forces exerted on the driver of a GP car, the machine would have to brutalize the driver way more than this device is even capable of.

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For it to work best, I think it needs to be enclosed so the user doesn't have the visual reference of being able to see the rest of the room.

Like this?  :)

(http://www.acesim.com/stevejoyrider.jpg)

(http://www.acesim.com/stevejoyrider2.jpg)

http://www.acesim.com/ready.html

I'd love to spend a few hours in that thing!
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: ink on May 27, 2011, 03:37:16 PM
This. To accurately impart the true g-forces exerted on the driver of a GP car, the machine would have to brutalize the driver way more than this device is even capable of.

Like this?  :)

(http://www.acesim.com/stevejoyrider.jpg)

(http://www.acesim.com/stevejoyrider2.jpg)

http://www.acesim.com/ready.html

I'd love to spend a few hours in that thing!

I have wanted one of these since the first I saw it....looks awesome
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: VAMPIRE 2? on May 27, 2011, 05:07:53 PM
you know.... the idea of a sim pit would be to be cheaper than the real thing....  the further people get into it, they might as well buy an old cessna... well i guess youll still be lacking the COMBAT experience...
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: GNucks on May 27, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
you know.... the idea of a sim pit would be to be cheaper than the real thing....  the further people get into it, they might as well buy an old cessna... well i guess youll still be lacking the COMBAT experience...


You also don't get to spawn on the runway with a fresh new Cessna if you wreck it.
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Devil 505 on May 27, 2011, 07:13:24 PM
You also don't get to spawn on the runway with a fresh new Cessna if you wreck it.

But you can respawn on the couch if you crash the simchair.  :devil
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 27, 2011, 07:21:56 PM
Wondered if any of you arm chair pilots have constructed one of these for AH yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBt77mGnyfI&feature=player_embedded

It would be so fun right?!!!



At the '98 WB Con, there was a guy that made custom motion simulators that brought one along.  Wolfala may remember him, the guy was from Alaska and the one he brought was a mock up of either a Wildcat or a Hellcat.  It had a far greater range of motion than what was shown on that video and it really did give the sensation of rolls and loops. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: W7LPNRICK on May 27, 2011, 07:47:47 PM
I have seen this before. How ever I have a hard time believing a GP vehicle would be pulling that much of a degree change on a flat race track just from breaking & accelerating.

In AHII I would imagine a lot of motion sickness is in the cards with that unit. :D

It's not to simulate the angle but the G's or to a much lesser extend the pull on the body.
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: PFactorDave on May 27, 2011, 08:23:31 PM
At the '98 WB Con, there was a guy that made custom motion simulators that brought one along.  Wolfala may remember him, the guy was from Alaska and the one he brought was a mock up of either a Wildcat or a Hellcat.  It had a far greater range of motion than what was shown on that video and it really did give the sensation of rolls and loops. 

ack-ack

I don't suppose you remember what he was charging for one?  If I could get one that would work with AH, and wasn't hugely expensive, I might just buy one.
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 27, 2011, 08:47:29 PM
I don't suppose you remember what he was charging for one?  If I could get one that would work with AH, and wasn't hugely expensive, I might just buy one.

This was back in '98 and I think he said somewhere around $10k for that particular motion simulator.  What made it really cools is that the main guts were an Epic Gamecard and a CH Force FX.  For some reason, when I try and remember teh guy's name, "Lord Frog" or something similiar to that always comes to mind.  Very cool guy from Alaska.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Anyone have this yet?
Post by: Bear76 on May 28, 2011, 12:59:10 PM
Hmm, think I'll file a patent for a "Vomit Wiper" attachment for monitors  :D