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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: oboe on June 01, 2011, 06:44:57 AM
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There was a lot more to you than most people know.
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Marilyn-at-home-LIFE-color-.jpg)
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Agreed. :cheers:
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yup...
Did you know she was a Rosie the Riveter (sort of) before she became a model? She made drones for target practice and thats where she met the guy who told her to try out for modeling.
We have one of the drones she might have possibly made, but they didnt put serial numbers on them, so we cant proove she actually worked on ours.
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd320/flightsimer/Air%20Heritage/MMdrone.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MarilynMonroe_-_YankArmyWeekly.jpg
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yup...
Did you know she was a Rosie the Riveter (sort of) before she became a model? She made drones for target practice and thats where she met the guy who told her to try out for modeling.
We have one of the drones she might have possibly made, but they didnt put serial numbers on them, so we cant proove she actually worked on ours.
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd320/flightsimer/Air%20Heritage/MMdrone.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MarilynMonroe_-_YankArmyWeekly.jpg
Such a thing could never fly :rofl Unless you just put a ton of power to it. Looks like gliding characteristics would be anything short of a joke, but hey what do I know.
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They never really were intended to fly, maybe blow up, but primarily - to fall out of it.
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There was a lot more to you than most people know.
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Marilyn-at-home-LIFE-color-.jpg)
Taylor swift will always have my heart! :cool: :bolt:
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Meh ... Was never into her. Way too much of the 'cutie cutie baby baby' attitude, plus she had ' I m going to be fat' fingers. Don't hate, just what I think. :salute
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Such a thing could never fly :rofl Unless you just put a ton of power to it. Looks like gliding characteristics would be anything short of a joke, but hey what do I know.
it flew, it was remote controlled too. Its pretty light though. Its pretty much just a thin sheet metal shell with a little internal support. plus that engine is a 4 cylinder engine.
Thats what it looked like after being restored. We got it all shot up. When that happened in RW, they just re-skinned it and flew it again.
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There was a lot more to you than most people know.
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tjlaven/Marilyn-at-home-LIFE-color-.jpg)
+1
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Such a thing could never fly :rofl Unless you just put a ton of power to it. Looks like gliding characteristics would be anything short of a joke, but hey what do I know.
Again, spoken from the bottom of an empty clue bag. :uhoh. Might be a good idea to do some googling......
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Again, spoken from the bottom of an empty clue bag. :uhoh. Might be a good idea to do some googling......
May I add the fact that the wings are a little short, what makes it fly is that huge engine, not sayings its crap i said Flying Characteristics were a joke, I never doubted its flying ability.
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May I add the fact that the wings are a little short, what makes it fly is that huge engine, not sayings its crap i said Flying Characteristics were a joke, I never doubted its flying ability.
So, you or someone you know has actual experience flying one? In other words, you have verifiable knowledge of it's flight characteristics vs making an off hand comment based on a picture?
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So, you or someone you know has actual experience flying one? In other words, you have verifiable knowledge of it's flight characteristics vs making an off hand comment based on a picture?
Taking a good look at it can make a person assume, you don't need insult a person who's wrong, makes you look like a troll. Just saying.
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Those things flew and were flown every where they had a gunnery training area.
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It's a circa-1940s flying target drone used for circa-1940s weapons training, a single component to combat training and not for practicing maneuvers with. It didn't need any other characteristics other than to be able to fit under the wing/fueselage of the towing plane that took it up, fly straight and level for X-amount of time when released, and fall out of the sky when it got shot.
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May I add the fact that the wings are a little short, what makes it fly is that huge engine, not sayings its crap i said Flying Characteristics were a joke, I never doubted its flying ability.
Really?
Such a thing could never fly :rofl Unless you just put a ton of power to it. Looks like gliding characteristics would be anything short of a joke, but hey what do I know.
I guess it was that statement that confused me...
Unless you consider to 20-30 hp of a Righter opposed-twin geared-down 2-stroke a "ton of power" :headscratch:
Oh, yeah. Happy Birthday, Norma Jean Dougherty :banana:
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I never doubted its flying ability.
So, what did you mean by "could never fly?"
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When I used the :rofl Face I was joking. I looked at the wings and saw how small they looked at the camera angle.
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Such a thing could never fly, the wings are too short.
(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3617_24_10_08_9_15_58.PNG)
(http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Lockheed-F104/IMAGES/3View-Color-Lockheed-F-104.jpg)
(http://www.cavok-aviation-photos.net/eggebek04/F104G_2674.jpg)
Nope, wings are too small. That'll never fly. :noid
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Such a thing could never fly, the wings are too short.
(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3617_24_10_08_9_15_58.PNG)
(http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Lockheed-F104/IMAGES/3View-Color-Lockheed-F-104.jpg)
(http://www.cavok-aviation-photos.net/eggebek04/F104G_2674.jpg)
Nope, wings are too small. That'll never fly. :noid
You know the Ironic thing is I knew that would be brought up, and even more ironic i'm watching a show about it. :uhoh
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get rid of the badger and change it to a short bus
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Taking a good look at it can make a person assume, you don't need insult a person who's wrong, makes you look like a troll. Just saying.
Ahhhh, there's no insult here, just asking a couple of questions, that you still haven't answered. Just asking.
You seem to have a genuine interest in things that fly. There is a wealth of knowledge in here about most anything one could want to know about concerning aviation, and more. If you spent a little time researching versus making off the cuff statements that demonstrate nothing more than ignorance, you might gain some credibility and learn something in the process. Just observing. :salute
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Such a thing could never fly, the wings are too short.
(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3617_24_10_08_9_15_58.PNG)
(http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Lockheed-F104/IMAGES/3View-Color-Lockheed-F-104.jpg)
(http://www.cavok-aviation-photos.net/eggebek04/F104G_2674.jpg)
Nope, wings are too small. That'll never fly. :noid
i was watching the Military channel's "top ten" episode about fighters. and they had the f4 phantom on there.
they had an old phantom pilot. who said because of the shape of the phantom(especially its wing) it was technically aerodynamically impossible to fly due to how much drag the shape of its body created.
and its only because of the 2 giant engines pushing it through the sky that it was ever able to actually sustain flight.
(bsically they said it was nothing more than a giant greyhound bus with 2 big engines strapped to the back that made it go very fast).
point is, apparently it doesnt matter about the shape of the aircraft. if you got a strong enough engine on it to push it through the sky, it can sustain flight. least i think that was the point :headscratch:
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they had an old phantom pilot. who said because of the shape of the phantom(especially its wing) it was technically aerodynamically impossible to fly due to how much drag the shape of its body created.
Not true, the wings were not "aerodynamically impossible to fly". The plane was big and heavy, that's why it needed those two powerful engines to push it through sky and not because the wings were not able to get any lift due to their design.
ack-ack
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Such a thing could never fly, the wings are too short.
(http://www.whatifmodelers.com/gallery/3617_24_10_08_9_15_58.PNG)
(http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Lockheed-F104/IMAGES/3View-Color-Lockheed-F-104.jpg)
(http://www.cavok-aviation-photos.net/eggebek04/F104G_2674.jpg)
Nope, wings are too small. That'll never fly. :noid
It did have a tendency to fall out of the sky. Didn't the F104 almost kill Chuck Yeager?
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i was watching the Military channel's "top ten" episode about fighters. and they had the f4 phantom on there.
they had an old phantom pilot. who said because of the shape of the phantom(especially its wing) it was technically aerodynamically impossible to fly due to how much drag the shape of its body created.
and its only because of the 2 giant engines pushing it through the sky that it was ever able to actually sustain flight.
(bsically they said it was nothing more than a giant greyhound bus with 2 big engines strapped to the back that made it go very fast).
point is, apparently it doesnt matter about the shape of the aircraft. if you got a strong enough engine on it to push it through the sky, it can sustain flight. least i think that was the point :headscratch:
That's why it has both dihedral and anhedral in the wings and stabilator, aerodynamic stability. A demonstration that with enough horsepower, even a refrigerator can go supersonic. :O
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May I add the fact that the wings are a little short, what makes it fly is that huge engine, not sayings its crap i said Flying Characteristics were a joke, I never doubted its flying ability.
dont always believe what a picture is showing you. thats a ~12ft wingspan
It didn't need any other characteristics other than to be able to fit under the wing/fueselage of the towing plane that took it up, fly straight and level for X-amount of time when released, and fall out of the sky when it got shot.
thats not true for this model. It was fully remote controlled.
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get rid of the badger and change it to a short bus
Hey, leave him alone.
-Penguin
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It did have a tendency to fall out of the sky. Didn't the F104 almost kill Chuck Yeager?
It had really twitchy low speed handling characteristics, a trade off made in its time to gain the speed that fighter pilots demanded. Jet engines were still very new, and not very efficient, so in order to get the desired speed, the plane was made like a missile. It remained in service as a front line fighter for around 30 years. Not a bad record, actually. Fighter pilots of the time asked for speed and acceleration, Kelly Johnson gave it to them.
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From what I understand shorter wings are more desirable the faster and higher you want to go, terribly inefficient in thicker atmosphere though, Mach 3+ and you start to be riding in a rocket that happens to have wings [ex: X15] more than you're riding in an airplane.
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If I may rant...
It was not just American figher pilots demanding increased speed and acceleration, it was a general trend toward rocket-like fighters. You see, ever since there have been bombers, there have been interceptors. These planes sacrificed long range capability for short range performance. As bombers went higher and faster, so did the interceptors.
Eventually, bombers became so high and so fast that the concept of the point-defense interceptor came into being. Examples include the Me-163b Komet and the Bachem Ba 349 Natter. After World War II, the Cold War began, and the threat of nuclear bombers arose. With the designs of the Germans, the allies became more interested in developing higher, faster interceptors.
As jet engines became cheap to the point of being disposable, missles came into being. New designs focused heavinly on carrying the maximum number of missles to the highest altitude in the shortest amount of time. They became more and more like missles themselves, with huge engines and high fuel consumption.
Eventually, the SAM was born. It was the embodiment of the point-defense interceptor role: fast, hard-hitting and replaceable. It, however, was phased out as well when the ICBM came on the scene (this also increased the threat of unpreventable nuclear annihalation if the world went to war).
-Penguin
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Putting this thread, back on it's tracks.
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It did have a tendency to fall out of the sky. Didn't the F104 almost kill Chuck Yeager?
No, Yeager almost killed himself in an NF-104.
http://www.kalimera.org/nf104/stories/stories_13.html
Any aircraft will fall out of the sky if mishandled. :salute