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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CAP1 on June 06, 2011, 08:17:49 PM
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ok.....mondays are generally hell for me. all of my tool suppliers, parts reps, etc. stop in on mondays.
so i'm standing in the parking lot talking to one of the independent suppliers, and hear the "lope" of something hot. i look over to the side driveway of the parking lot, and there's a cobra pulling in. black with white racing stripes. friggin BEAUTIFUL. unfortunatly, i didn't have my camera handy.
anyway, as we're walking over to the pumps to check it out, in pulls an 09 corvette.....bright yellow. even with that flaw, it was still a beautiful car.
the problem? everyone walked over to the cobra. not a single person looked at the vette, nor did they notice the hot blonde in the passengers seat. eventually, the vette owner even came over, like he was "sizing up" the cobra.
the dood looked like he stayed consertive with the build. only had a 347, which he says was dyno'd to 500hp. not much, but more than enough for a car weighing under 3,000 pounds.
it was a factory five racing kit. i asked him a bunch of questions. he said that the build wasn't as easy as they make it out to be. they sent him the wrong rims with it. he had trouble finding the spindles. he had trouble with the wiring harness to install the FI engine. he had it painted in Connecticut. the interior was friggin PERFECT. he had installed the heater vents, and defrosters, and has the soft top for it, and did put wiper on it.
he said it took him about 400 hours total working time to build, and a little over 50k. all in all, not too bad. when he mentioned money, the vette dood asked him " that;s not including your labor, right?" as if he was trying to justify something.
when i asked him if it was worth all of the time, money, and headaches, he just smiled like a 10 year old. he's only got 200 miles on it, and not had it to any tracks yet. he's local i think, as his face looked familiar from being in the station before. next time he pulls in, i'll get some pics.......but.....seeing and hearing that beautiful beast made my monday. :aok
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not a big ford fan...but anyman who has the time and patience to build a car has my respect.
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The word I'd use for the Vette owner's bruised ego is "karma". :devil
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The word I'd use for the Vette owner's bruised ego is "karma". :devil
quite maybe. it was a beautiful car, 'cept for being yellow.
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ok.....mondays are generally hell for me. all of my tool suppliers, parts reps, etc. stop in on mondays.
so i'm standing in the parking lot talking to one of the independent suppliers, and hear the "lope" of something hot. i look over to the side driveway of the parking lot, and there's a cobra pulling in. black with white racing stripes. friggin BEAUTIFUL. unfortunatly, i didn't have my camera handy.
anyway, as we're walking over to the pumps to check it out, in pulls an 09 corvette.....bright yellow. even with that flaw, it was still a beautiful car.
the problem? everyone walked over to the cobra. not a single person looked at the vette, nor did they notice the hot blonde in the passengers seat. eventually, the vette owner even came over, like he was "sizing up" the cobra.
the dood looked like he stayed consertive with the build. only had a 347, which he says was dyno'd to 500hp. not much, but more than enough for a car weighing under 3,000 pounds.
it was a factory five racing kit. i asked him a bunch of questions. he said that the build wasn't as easy as they make it out to be. they sent him the wrong rims with it. he had trouble finding the spindles. he had trouble with the wiring harness to install the FI engine. he had it painted in Connecticut. the interior was friggin PERFECT. he had installed the heater vents, and defrosters, and has the soft top for it, and did put wiper on it.
he said it took him about 400 hours total working time to build, and a little over 50k. all in all, not too bad. when he mentioned money, the vette dood asked him " that;s not including your labor, right?" as if he was trying to justify something.
when i asked him if it was worth all of the time, money, and headaches, he just smiled like a 10 year old. he's only got 200 miles on it, and not had it to any tracks yet. he's local i think, as his face looked familiar from being in the station before. next time he pulls in, i'll get some pics.......but.....seeing and hearing that beautiful beast made my monday. :aok
NOOB!
VET will kick any fords butt on a race i have watched a lot of vet vs cobra/mustang races i say bout 3/5 times vet wins
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NOOB!
VET will kick any fords butt on a race i have watched a lot of vet vs cobra/mustang races i say bout 3/5 times vet wins
Who wins is usually based on 2 things: First, the length of the race track. Meaning that Fords do better on the long straight lanes and GM on the shorter lanes with more turns. Dodge is somewhere in the middle. Secondly: the driver. if the driver is good enough and is in tune with the car enough, he/she can make it do things it isnt supposed to be able to do.
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Who wins is usually based on 2 things: First, the length of the race track. Meaning that Fords do better on the long straight lanes and GM on the shorter lanes with more turns. Dodge is somewhere in the middle. Secondly: the driver. if the driver is good enough and is in tune with the car enough, he/she can make it do things it isnt supposed to be able to do.
this....except for the part about dodge.
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Who wins is usually based on 2 things: First, the length of the race track. Meaning that Fords do better on the long straight lanes and GM on the shorter lanes with more turns. Dodge is somewhere in the middle. Secondly: the driver. if the driver is good enough and is in tune with the car enough, he/she can make it do things it isnt supposed to be able to do.
Oh my God :bhead
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What's all this talk of Fords and Mustangs??????
CAP clearly stated that this was a FFR kit. You know one of these beauties.
(http://image.automotive.com/f/images/10891512+pheader/0803kc_01_z+ffr_mk3_roadster+front_passenger_side.jpg)
Ford had nothing to do with it, and the only thing Ford had to do with the original Cobra was as engine supplier and distributor. Same kind of deal they did with the De Tomosa Pantera later. It was a British car ( AC ) adapted to the Ford driveline by Shelby.
BTW, speaking of Factory Five, went and looked their website the other day, and was pleasantly surprised to see that they now have updated the kit to MK4. The body looks better, much closer lines (especially rear end) to the original, all rolled edges on the interior now, and they fixed the front spindle to better angle so it handles better.
PS. Didn't Skuzzy reveal a while back that he was working on a Cobra kit? I'd love to build one myself someday, maybe for my midlife crisis.
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I felt sorry for a guy driving an SS yesterday, why you ask? Because the idiot destroyed it by painting it neon green and like 30 inch rims.....
-BigBOBCH
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I felt sorry for a guy driving an SS yesterday, why you ask? Because the idiot destroyed it by painting it neon green and like 30 inch rims.....
-BigBOBCH
ok.....HIM you shoulda dragged outta the car, and slapped the poop outta him.
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We feel bad for lots of corvette drivers but we still do superchargers and twin turbo installs on them.
I grew up with my best friend's father owning a 289 cobra which he regularly autocrossed and credit hanging out with him for much of my automotive mojo.
That said, a vette hasn't come close to beating our ford.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMuPknhk67I
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I felt sorry for a guy driving an SS yesterday, why you ask? Because the idiot destroyed it by painting it neon green and like 30 inch rims.....
-BigBOBCH
when you say SS are you refering to one of those New SS Camaro's? like 2010/2011? Chevy are actually putting them out from the factory in a neon green kind of color .... looks sickening really........ not as good as the old plum crazy purple or banana yellow color days of the MOPARS
what would be funny CAP, is if Grandma pulled up in her CTS-V Sport Wagon that is sporting a supercharged 6.2-liter V8 that delivers 556 hp and 551 pound-feet of torque, linked to a Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual transmission and asked them both if they wanted to race for pinks....... lol
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when you say SS are you refering to one of those New SS Camaro's? like 2010/2011? Chevy are actually putting them out from the factory in a neon green kind of color .... looks sickening really........ not as good as the old plum crazy purple or banana yellow color days of the MOPARS
what would be funny CAP, is if Grandma pulled up in her CTS-V Sport Wagon that is sporting a supercharged 6.2-liter V8 that delivers 556 hp and 551 pound-feet of torque, linked to a Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual transmission and asked them both if they wanted to race for pinks....... lol
No im talking the original SS.....I wanted to smack the guy in the face...
-BigBOBCH
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No im talking the original SS.....I wanted to smack the guy in the face...
-BigBOBCH
oh, an older early 60's Super Sport Impala ?
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when you say SS are you refering to one of those New SS Camaro's? like 2010/2011? Chevy are actually putting them out from the factory in a neon green kind of color .... looks sickening really........ not as good as the old plum crazy purple or banana yellow color days of the MOPARS
what would be funny CAP, is if Grandma pulled up in her CTS-V Sport Wagon that is sporting a supercharged 6.2-liter V8 that delivers 556 hp and 551 pound-feet of torque, linked to a Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual transmission and asked them both if they wanted to race for pinks....... lol
when i hear someone say "SS", i think of the 60's chevelles. the only thing i think of when someone references a newer camaro, is an australian car built in canada by a company that took a bailout, and used some of that money to save those 3,000 jobs at the canadian plant that builds the camaros, rather than bringing what was once a great american muscle car back home.
and yea it would......'cause with any sort of traction, the cobra dude would be walking away with a new vette and a new cadi. :aok
those cobras i think weigh in around 2600 to 2800 pounds. that combined with 500hp, and figuring on 4.10 gears......possibly 4.56 gears.....that should put that cobra in the low 11's, high 10's.
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Anyone who would race an "off the shelf" production car against any kind of hot "kit car" is an idiot and deserves to loose. Of course a sub 3000 pound Cobra will whip a Vette, Caddy, etc.
You mentioned FFR, heck, my dream car is to build a GTM....mid engined LSX Chevy motor in under 2300 pound car with Porsche G50 transaxle... it'll murder just about anything you will ever run into on the street.
(http://www.factoryfive.com/gtm/gallery/shanev/images/1.jpg)
(http://www.factoryfive.com/gtm/gallery/shanev/images/2.jpg)
Car and Driver tested an LS7 powered one and got 3.0 sec 0-60 and 6.6 sec 0-100 times. 11.0 sec 1/4 mile @132mph... on street tires.
Sports cars built on an assembly line for sale to the general public are gonna be loaded up with a couple thousand pounds of extra weight just by design... Heck, Honda Civics today weight as much as mid '80's Corvettes. Cars today are bigger, heavier, and have a lot more crap that weighs 'em down... Cobras, GTMs, other kit cars..... bare bones, just a frame, a body, and a big honking engine. What more do you really need? :D
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(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/arnold_dodge_viper.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Dodge_Viper_Cabrio_by_brianspilner.jpg)
all day everyday :)
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CAP, the Factory Five, with a small block Ford and T56 Magnum, and 9" Ford rear end weighs in at about 2250 pounds. The FF is one of the lighter Cobra kits around. The body shell is pretty thin, compared to some other kits. The driver should be about 5'8" tall, or shorter, to be comfortable in one. Smallish feet are also a plus.
The Lonestar I will be building is one of the heavier kits at 2450 pounds wet.
Anyone interested in building a kit needs to find the local club and meet with them. For the most part, the Cobra owners are a pretty laid back group. Happy to give a ride, and some will allow you to drive, once they get comfortable with you.
There are many high quality kits out there today. That is not to say it is easy to build. It can be very frustrating. To reduce those types of issues, always get to know the folks in the local Cobra Clubs. They will always be willing to share the "gotchas" they went through with thier builds.
Always take your time. Be patient. It can take years to complete a car. Be realistic. Do not go into this thinking it is a simple matter of connecting the dots. Far from it. No matter what you think you can build it for, it will end up costing twice that amount. A $20,000 kit will usually end up costing about $45,000.00 to complete. Oh, and they are never completed. :)
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Any opinions on the Everett-Morrison Cobras out of La Porte Texas?
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CAP, the Factory Five, with a small block Ford and T56 Magnum, and 9" Ford rear end weighs in at about 2250 pounds. The FF is one of the lighter Cobra kits around. The body shell is pretty thin, compared to some other kits. The driver should be about 5'8" tall, or shorter, to be comfortable in one. Smallish feet are also a plus.
The Lonestar I will be building is one of the heavier kits at 2450 pounds wet.
Anyone interested in building a kit needs to find the local club and meet with them. For the most part, the Cobra owners are a pretty laid back group. Happy to give a ride, and some will allow you to drive, once they get comfortable with you.
There are many high quality kits out there today. That is not to say it is easy to build. It can be very frustrating. To reduce those types of issues, always get to know the folks in the local Cobra Clubs. They will always be willing to share the "gotchas" they went through with thier builds.
Always take your time. Be patient. It can take years to complete a car. Be realistic. Do not go into this thinking it is a simple matter of connecting the dots. Far from it. No matter what you think you can build it for, it will end up costing twice that amount. A $20,000 kit will usually end up costing about $45,000.00 to complete. Oh, and they are never completed. :)
holy crap!! i didn't think they were that light! that'd put him into the mid/low 10's with 500hp.
when i looked underneatrh, it looked like an 8.8 under there.
i'm gonna get pics when he comes in again.
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Most of the kits will use either the 8.8" or 9". I prefer the 9", even though it is heavier. A lot more options for it.
Any opinions on the Everett-Morrison Cobras out of La Porte Texas?
The EM brand has been around a long time. It has changed hands a couple of times and has recently been purchased, again. The rollers are considered high quality.
Superperformance dominates the roller market today. Hurricane is coming on strong. Backdraft and EM are both quality builds as well.
Again, I stress this, find a local Cobra Club and go sit in the cars. Talk to the owners. No owner will put down thier own car, but they will be honest about any issues they have had.
Also check out http://www.cobracountry.com/ for used Cobras, if you are interested in a roller. Most used Cobras are low mileage cars and the owners tend to take very good care of them. This will get you past, the often troublesome issue of, license and registration for a new build.
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Thomas Magnum would need the viper with the removable roof.
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I felt sorry for a guy driving an SS yesterday, why you ask? Because the idiot destroyed it by painting it neon green and like 30 inch rims.....
-BigBOBCH
Bet the green was Synergy green which you can get on any camaro this year. The SS comes with 21" and can be dropped and fit with up to 24" and look great. The 30" is a wagon wheel on the car and would look stupid.
My Daughter's camaro is the actual Synergy Package that was a limited edition last year and only available for a few months.
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/Shuff_photos/IMAG0152.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/Shuff_photos/IMAG0092.jpg)
Any opinions on the Everett-Morrison Cobras out of La Porte Texas?
I have not heard of them. I am sitting in Deer Park right now. :D
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The people I feel sorry for are the ones who read the original post and thought "mustang?!"
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The people I feel sorry for are the ones who read the original post and thought "mustang?!"
i kinda do too, but can almost understand it, as factory five tends to sell their kits on a basis of being able to take a wrecked fox chassis mustang, and transfer everything over to complete the car.
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I felt bad for the driver of a new edge Roush Mustang a while back.
Guy saw me sitting at a red light as he was taking a left across from me. He decided to lay into it, and it must've been the first time he'd ever done so because he gave it way too much throttle, lost it and it drove itself right over the curbed median.
I cringed a bit when the body kit crunched on the curbs. :uhoh
That little maneuver put him on the other side of the street and he had to drive past me to get away. He looked a little embarrassed to say the least. :aok
I can totally see myself doing that same thing if I'm ever behind the wheel of a Cobra, though. Those things must be a handful.
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You have to respect that throttle pedal in a Cobra. I got an hour of seat time at the last roundup and I did fine. I only slung the rear out a few inches once. Just FYI: Trailing throttle, in a turn, is a huge no-no. :)
I did get a little tunnel vision, during the straight away acceleration run to speed. Man, that was fun.
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We have a factory 5 cobra at work and it is nowhere near half the car the lone star cars are.
I does have a 347 with six speed the rest of the car seems to have been made in china.
It also has the 4 shock rear end from the early fox body mustangs.
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We have a factory 5 cobra at work and it is nowhere near half the car the lone star cars are.
I does have a 347 with six speed the rest of the car seems to have been made in china.
It also has the 4 shock rear end from the early fox body mustangs.
and yet we know they're built right here. you gotta be trolling here. :devil
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I wish I were joking.....or better yet....not going to have to get this car right after two other supposedly top line shops had no luck.
One shop left it hydrolocked for two weeks but I emptied the cooling system and let it run for 30 seconds within half an hour of it getting to us.
I'll check the bores when I get a chance to work on it.
Strange but that reference to the cobra was supposed to end up the "What do the HTC staff drive ?" thread.
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I wish I were joking.....or better yet....not going to have to get this car right after two other supposedly top line shops had no luck.
One shop left it hydrolocked for two weeks but I emptied the cooling system and let it run for 30 seconds within half an hour of it getting to us.
I'll check the bores when I get a chance to work on it.
Strange but that reference to the cobra was supposed to end up the "What do the HTC staff drive ?" thread.
so? a hydro-locked engine is factory five's fault? if it took anyone longer than half a minute to find a hydro-locked engine, then they should go back to school. they couldn't have been top of the line shops.
i've not much experience with the 347's myself, but from everything i've heard....i'd not build one for myself, or a customer.
by the way......just emptying the cooling system doesn't free up a hydro-locked engine. also, depending on the heads used, they probably torqued them incorrectly(which i've seen on other alum. headed ford engines), causing the head gasket to give way. normally this will be an external leak though. but you probably already know that.
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Where most builders make a mistake is in the cooling system. The upper radiator hose connection to the radiator in a Cobra is below the highest point in the coolant system. Without an external fill tank placed higher than the heads, it is almost impossible to get all the air out of the block when you fill it.
The older Factory Five cars were all built from donor Mustangs. It was a requirement. The new MkIV Factory Five car (which looks much better than the MkIII) can be had as a complete build with no donor parts needed. They are very different cars. Overall, the Factory Five kits are pretty good kits.
In the industry, all the companies selling owner built kits have their pluses and minuses. It is up to the owner as to what will fit his/her needs.
As far as quality goes, it is up to the builder. No two Cobras, built by owners, are the same. Everyone has their own requirements for what they want their car to do.
I am not a fan of stroking the Ford small block to its limits. The longer you make the stroke, the more difficult it is to maintain a proper rod length to stroke ratio. The longer stroke also comes at a cost to long term reliabilty. If you are going to stroke a 302 out, the best option is to start with an 9" deck, rather than the stock 8.2" deck block, or jump right into a BOSS351 block (Windsor block, 9.5" deck, with Cleveland mains).
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Whoa! that Factory 5 GTM Supercar is cool as hell looking! I have been considering doing a kit car of some sort.. that baby may be my choice... WOW it is gorgeous is all I got to say!
Cap, know anyone who has done one of those builds? (or anyone else)
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Whoa! that Factory 5 GTM Supercar is cool as hell looking! I have been considering doing a kit car of some sort.. that baby may be my choice... WOW it is gorgeous is all I got to say!
Cap, know anyone who has done one of those builds? (or anyone else)
i had one customer years ago, that was working on a factory five kit. he bought a wrecked 88 mustang gt, to use with it.
he brought us the kit on a rollback, after they had installed seats, dash, engine, trans and rear....suspension too obviously.
they had the wiring routed sort of. they didn't pay enough attention removing the wiring harnesses from the donor car, and made a pretty nasty snakes nest of crap, which they couldn't figure out.
it took me about 2 days to get it all straightened out for them, everything hooked up, and to get her fired up. i'm sure it could have been done faster, but my concern was doing it right the first time, and to be honest, i'm kinda wierd with wiring.....even when i know it's not visible, it has to be neat and pretty looking.
they finished it, but sold it right away, as there was a guy nipping at their heels to sell it through nearly the rest of the build after he heard it fired up..........i dunno what they did after that.
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Where most builders make a mistake is in the cooling system. The upper radiator hose connection to the radiator in a Cobra is below the highest point in the coolant system. Without an external fill tank placed higher than the heads, it is almost impossible to get all the air out of the block when you fill it.
The older Factory Five cars were all built from donor Mustangs. It was a requirement. The new MkIV Factory Five car (which looks much better than the MkIII) can be had as a complete build with no donor parts needed. They are very different cars. Overall, the Factory Five kits are pretty good kits.
In the industry, all the companies selling owner built kits have their pluses and minuses. It is up to the owner as to what will fit his/her needs.
As far as quality goes, it is up to the builder. No two Cobras, built by owners, are the same. Everyone has their own requirements for what they want their car to do.
I am not a fan of stroking the Ford small block to its limits. The longer you make the stroke, the more difficult it is to maintain a proper rod length to stroke ratio. The longer stroke also comes at a cost to long term reliabilty. If you are going to stroke a 302 out, the best option is to start with an 9" deck, rather than the stock 8.2" deck block, or jump right into a BOSS351 block (Windsor block, 9.5" deck, with Cleveland mains).
yea./....that was part of the reason the early 60's galaxy big blocks had that surge tank mounted on the front of the engine.
i was taking his meaning of "hydro-locked" to mean that the engine wouldn't run, as in it had sucked water into the combustion chambers.
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Vette kick a Cobras a@@?
Gee.....I wonder what Enzo said when the Cobras completely made Ferarri a non- factor
which made Enzo cancel his last race of the season....believe it was 65 or 66.
Corvettes were nice......63, 67, 68 and 69....oh and the first in 53 was gorgeous.
Now......they're like Toyotas.....everywhere....go to an auction. See which car
is most often auctioned. You guessed it...vettes.
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ok.....mondays are generally hell for me. all of my tool suppliers, parts reps, etc. stop in on mondays.
so i'm standing in the parking lot talking to one of the independent suppliers, and hear the "lope" of something hot. i look over to the side driveway of the parking lot, and there's a cobra pulling in. black with white racing stripes. friggin BEAUTIFUL. unfortunatly, i didn't have my camera handy.
anyway, as we're walking over to the pumps to check it out, in pulls an 09 corvette.....bright yellow. even with that flaw, it was still a beautiful car.
the problem? everyone walked over to the cobra. not a single person looked at the vette, nor did they notice the hot blonde in the passengers seat. eventually, the vette owner even came over, like he was "sizing up" the cobra.
the dood looked like he stayed consertive with the build. only had a 347, which he says was dyno'd to 500hp. not much, but more than enough for a car weighing under 3,000 pounds.
it was a factory five racing kit. i asked him a bunch of questions. he said that the build wasn't as easy as they make it out to be. they sent him the wrong rims with it. he had trouble finding the spindles. he had trouble with the wiring harness to install the FI engine. he had it painted in Connecticut. the interior was friggin PERFECT. he had installed the heater vents, and defrosters, and has the soft top for it, and did put wiper on it.
he said it took him about 400 hours total working time to build, and a little over 50k. all in all, not too bad. when he mentioned money, the vette dood asked him " that;s not including your labor, right?" as if he was trying to justify something.
when i asked him if it was worth all of the time, money, and headaches, he just smiled like a 10 year old. he's only got 200 miles on it, and not had it to any tracks yet. he's local i think, as his face looked familiar from being in the station before. next time he pulls in, i'll get some pics.......but.....seeing and hearing that beautiful beast made my monday. :aok
My dad's car will out do your dad's car in every way man..... :D :bolt:
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My dad's car will out do your dad's car in every way man..... :D :bolt:
don't matter to me....i gots a camaro that should run high 8's or low 9's.....and a fairmont that'll run 12's.
to be honest, prolly gonna sell the camaro though.
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:angel: 6! A new record ... holly mother of a server burp :salute
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I had the opposite experience CAP, we were cruising on the freeway in my friend's Z06 and came up on 3 Cobras trailing each other. Naturally we 'paused' along side to check them out. The lead one must had took that for a challenge, and gunned it. So w gunned it too, out of 70 mph, supercharged 614 rwhp. we let the guy behind us, rappidly pushed to 150 before the guy was a couple of hundred feet behind and ' rejoined formation'. :ahand I guess gearing and aerodynamics is a squeak ... So are sleepers.
I met so many 40-50 year old, out of shape wearing a mustache/goatee with something to prove, that I swore to myself I ll never own one.:( no offense to Skuzz of course, but I don't even bother checking them out much at carshows or gas stations, they are so common now anyway.
I was in love with the Daytona, even ordered FF assembly manual, but then I learned RCR has a 330 P4 ... One of my doling favorite ever Ill probably go for that if I get in a financial position that allows me to buy a kit car.
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There is always going to be someone who has something to prove. Been that way in every hot rod group I have ever known. Suspect it will always be that way.
The group I hang with is a good lot. They just love their cars. We have had some spirited runs in the back roads of Texas, with the only casualties being an armadillo and a gas tank. Important note: An armadillo is taller than the ground clearance of a Cobra. :)
We have run into our fair share of idiots as well. At least one per run. I promise you the idiot, you ran into in the Cobra, would act the same way if he was in a Z06. It is not the cars fault.
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one of the most fun things to do when someone like that pulls up next to ya.......act like you're gonna run him. when the light goes green, just bump the clutch hard enough to lift your front end, then get off it.
it's fun watching them go balls out for no good reason. :devil
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True dat Skuzz, high profile cars really are a test of self control to drive. Lucky the z06 is not highprofile at all, it's rare when someone goes Ken Block next to you ... It's usually an exotic.
The firebird gets its fair share, but the worst is the Torino. It's because of loud loppy engine, I had grandma s in minivans swirling the tires at the green light :confused:
I quickly learned to love cars for what they were. There's always going to be that guy with deep pocket that had someone build a monster while he can barely know how to change the oil, that mexican kid that will blow your doors off with a $2000 looking car, and the pompous dork that thinks because he put an SS badge on his busted rust bucket his car is worth $xxx,ooo at Barret Jackson. With counting the critics ' you should have put a hemi', your dash pad is not original blahblah my brother blahblah I used to have blahblah.
Get what you want, paint it what you like, trick it how you want knowing it's for a special purpose and she's not going to be A plus everywhere. Go all out 100% you so you enjoy 100%. When dorkface shows up with his selfrageous verbal I'm the cool guy, it just flows above your head while lokking at him with a smile of pity.
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Boy am I all wind up today :bolt: must have been to one too many car show. Sry :D
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See Rule #4
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NOOB!
VET will kick any fords butt on a race i have watched a lot of vet vs cobra/mustang races i say bout 3/5 times vet wins
Cobra
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2007/11/20-racer-x-design-kc-427-concept/AC-Shelby-Cobra-427.jpg)
Not a Mustang with a cobra badge.
I'm not gong to say Ford is always better or faster than Chevrolet, but Ford has done a lot more winning over the years on tracks all over the world.
Check out this 1980's BONE STOCK Escort RS200 drag racing a Lamborghini Murcielago which is top of the Lambo range. I wish Ford still sold compact cars with over 600HP from the factory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-peuYguL8
And for you Chevy guys, check out the new Camaro, as it's been on sale down under for years, with more horsepower as well. (The Aussies sell them as a 4 door or El-Camino & Both tested faster than the SS)
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-season-13-episode-7-full-version_703772.htm
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Cobra
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2007/11/20-racer-x-design-kc-427-concept/AC-Shelby-Cobra-427.jpg)
Not a Mustang with a cobra badge.
I'm not gong to say Ford is always better or faster than Chevrolet, but Ford has done a lot more winning over the years on tracks all over the world.
Check out this 1980's BONE STOCK Escort RS200 drag racing a Lamborghini Murcielago which is top of the Lambo range. I wish Ford still sold compact cars with over 600HP from the factory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-peuYguL8
And for you Chevy guys, check out the new Camaro, as it's been on sale down under for years, with more horsepower as well. (The Aussies sell them as a 4 door or El-Camino & Both tested faster than the SS)
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-season-13-episode-7-full-version_703772.htm
you still CAN buy a ford with over 600hp. it's just not a compact. :aok
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Cobra
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2007/11/20-racer-x-design-kc-427-concept/AC-Shelby-Cobra-427.jpg)
Not a Mustang with a cobra badge.
I'm not gong to say Ford is always better or faster than Chevrolet, but Ford has done a lot more winning over the years on tracks all over the world.
Check out this 1980's BONE STOCK Escort RS200 drag racing a Lamborghini Murcielago which is top of the Lambo range. I wish Ford still sold compact cars with over 600HP from the factory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-peuYguL8
And for you Chevy guys, check out the new Camaro, as it's been on sale down under for years, with more horsepower as well. (The Aussies sell them as a 4 door or El-Camino & Both tested faster than the SS)
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-season-13-episode-7-full-version_703772.htm
That isn't exactly "Bone Stock". The RS200 was/is a legendary Group B Rally Car. Considering the video is from 2007:
RS200 - Standing 1/4-mile: 11.4 sec, 115 mph (185 km/h)
Murcielago (01-05) - 11.7 sec, 122 mph
It's coming down to the driver. But the RS200 is every bit of "exotic" as the Lambo (in the sense of "how often do you see em?").
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Where most builders make a mistake is in the cooling system. The upper radiator hose connection to the radiator in a Cobra is below the highest point in the coolant system. Without an external fill tank placed higher than the heads, it is almost impossible to get all the air out of the block when you fill it.
The older Factory Five cars were all built from donor Mustangs. It was a requirement. The new MkIV Factory Five car (which looks much better than the MkIII) can be had as a complete build with no donor parts needed. They are very different cars. Overall, the Factory Five kits are pretty good kits.
In the industry, all the companies selling owner built kits have their pluses and minuses. It is up to the owner as to what will fit his/her needs.
As far as quality goes, it is up to the builder. No two Cobras, built by owners, are the same. Everyone has their own requirements for what they want their car to do.
I am not a fan of stroking the Ford small block to its limits. The longer you make the stroke, the more difficult it is to maintain a proper rod length to stroke ratio. The longer stroke also comes at a cost to long term reliabilty. If you are going to stroke a 302 out, the best option is to start with an 9" deck, rather than the stock 8.2" deck block, or jump right into a BOSS351 block (Windsor block, 9.5" deck, with Cleveland mains).
I always thought it was the cleveland blocks but I'll confess that I could be mistaken.
Oh and your suppose to stand those fords on their tails,it's the only way to get all the air out....... :devil
the 80's era escorts were terrible for this,until I learned a trick of tipping it on it's side! So just stand the corbra on it's tail.... :rofl :rofl :rofl
:salute
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the other trick to not having air pockets in your cooling system, regardless of design, is to use a vacuum kit.
i've got one. it uses shop air to pull a vacuum in the cooling system. nearly 25" of it. stick the pickup tube in a pail of coolant mix, and open the valve. :aok
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Not sure if the corvette driver that CAP's talking about is a die hard nut.... but last week was the best week for corvette fans :aok
1. 2012 ZR-1 destroys the Viper ACR and Nissan GTR Nurburgring lap times
2. Corvette C6R won Le Man's GTE class just in time for the 100th anniversary of Chevrolet and 10th anniversary factory-backed victory at LeMans.
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Not sure if the corvette driver that CAP's talking about is a die hard nut.... but last week was the best week for corvette fans :aok
1. 2012 ZR-1 destroys the Viper ACR and Nissan GTR Nurburgring lap times
2. Corvette C6R won Le Man's GTE class just in time for the 100th anniversary of Chevrolet and 10th anniversary factory-backed victory at LeMans.
.......and this has to do with a Corvette and a Cobra at a gas station because.......?
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I strutted over to my local favorite station yesterday with gusto, and not because of any mere car, but because it's finaly dropped to $3.85 a gallon! :)
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I strutted over to my local favorite station yesterday with gusto, and not because of any mere car, but because it's finaly dropped to $3.85 a gallon! :)
dam!!
you're gettin screwed out there.
it just dropped to 3.53 here....... :noid
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Eh, death and taxes, death and taxes...
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dam!!
you're gettin screwed out there.
it just dropped to 3.53 here....... :noid
The problem with your gas is it's located in New Jersey. It's worth the extra quarter just to avoid crossing the Delaware River
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The problem with your gas is it's located in New Jersey. It's worth the extra quarter just to avoid crossing the Delaware River
heyyyy!!!!!!
the powers that be int he peoples free republik of new jersey do not like that attitude. please stay where you are......they are sending someone out to re-educate you. :noid :noid :neener: