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Title: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Kazaa on June 11, 2011, 11:06:54 AM
I'm hearing that nobody was hurt! This pretty much makes everyone behind that barrier joint luckest people in the world?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Nb0Ienv6k
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: mbailey on June 11, 2011, 11:28:49 AM
Any news on the driver? 
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Post by: mechanic on June 11, 2011, 11:34:42 AM
he's ok
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 11, 2011, 12:15:23 PM
pretty nasty looking. loked like the audi thought he had a space to make the pass, and went in a lil too deep, whilst the other guy came in on him too......either way....good that no one got hurt.
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Post by: tassos on June 11, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
OMG what Lucky Reporters Look at the wheel with broken axe
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Post by: mbailey on June 11, 2011, 01:03:53 PM
he's ok
Good to hear , thanks
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Tyrannis on June 11, 2011, 03:57:53 PM
wow, im sorry, but what was that? a little bump and it looked like the car's axis bent.

those toy F1 cars make nascars plastic look tough.  :uhoh
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: camnite on June 11, 2011, 04:06:38 PM
audi almost had another fatal crash, but on the rundown from mulsane headed to indianapolis
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Bruv119 on June 11, 2011, 04:19:20 PM
wow, im sorry, but what was that? a little bump and it looked like the car's axis bent.

those toy F1 cars make nascars plastic look tough.  :uhoh

a little bump?   :huh 

those are not F1 cars either...

Amazed to see him walk away from that,  any landing....
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: RTHolmes on June 11, 2011, 04:19:55 PM
wow, im sorry, but what was that? a little bump and it looked like the car's axis bent.

those toy F1 cars make nascars plastic look tough.  :uhoh

little bump? axis? F1? the fail is strong in this one ...
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 11, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
Dear mother of God  :pray now that's a miracle how that barrier caught the car when it was flying over.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 11, 2011, 07:04:04 PM
little bump? axis? F1? the fail is strong in this one ...
+1

on topic. Luckiest people alive.

dont wanna make a joke about it, but that camera guy was runnin from the wheel  :lol
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: saggs on June 11, 2011, 07:23:53 PM
Amazing the safety technology that goes into those cars.  To be thrashed that badly, and yet the cockpit is still completely intact.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 11, 2011, 07:26:50 PM
Amazing the safety technology that goes into those cars.  To be thrashed that badly, and yet the cockpit is still completely intact.
if its anything like F! the car is made to disentigrate (sp). the frame and cosmetics and other parts take the heat in safety of the driver. the drivers more then likely have a HANNS device (NASCAR does...LeMans better).
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: saggs on June 11, 2011, 07:30:43 PM
if its anything like F! the car is made to disentigrate (sp). the frame and cosmetics and other parts take the heat in safety of the driver. the drivers more then likely have a HANNS device (NASCAR does...LeMans better).

Being a closed cockpit, and more mass to the car, I'd imagine it's a bit safer then F1. 

But yea, speaking of F1, remember Webber's pretty little back flip at Valencia last year, I'm amazed he walked away from that one too.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 11, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
Being a closed cockpit, and more mass to the car, I'd imagine it's a bit safer then F1. 

But yea, speaking of F1, remember Webber's pretty little back flip at Valencia last year, I'm amazed he walked away from that one too.
musta been the one or two races i missed. and i havent seen any this year.  :cry
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Reaper90 on June 11, 2011, 07:49:39 PM
Really glad to see McNish and the stewards and press folks walk away from that one. Had the potential to be catastrophic on a massive level.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: BERN1 on June 11, 2011, 08:39:10 PM
you can see the Hans device on the driver as he exits the car also noticed his driving suit seemed a little ummm soiled  :o
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 11, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
didnt watch him exiting the car. was across the house doin something
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Post by: oakranger on June 11, 2011, 09:14:49 PM
OMG what Lucky Reporters Look at the wheel with broken axe

LOL, i saw that too.  There is another reporter that stood next to the wall when that same wheel  roll behind him/her.  S/he never notice it till it hit the wall on the other side of him/her.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: saggs on June 11, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
musta been the one or two races i missed. and i havent seen any this year.  :cry

All your missing this year is Sebastian Vettel's absolute domination.  His last win at Monaco was pure luck though, Button was reeling him in at like 2-3 seconds a lap, when he was saved by a red flag.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 11, 2011, 10:58:37 PM
All your missing this year is Sebastian Vettel's absolute domination.  His last win at Monaco was pure luck though, Button was reeling him in at like 2-3 seconds a lap, when he was saved by a red flag.

i can't tell you how many races i've seen won/lost due to luck. it seems more than are won/lost by skill sometimes.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Slash27 on June 12, 2011, 12:14:42 AM
Dear mother of God  :pray now that's a miracle how that barrier caught the car when it was flying over.
It sure could have went over but it just hung on the top of the barrier. Miracle indeed. May need to rais the height on those barriers.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: SlapShot on June 12, 2011, 10:14:33 AM
i can't tell you how many races i've seen won/lost due to luck. it seems more than are won/lost by skill sometimes.

Come on now ... It takes great skill to run a complete and clean race and to put yourself in a position at the end of a race to win regardless of the circumstances or variables that change as a race progresses. It is not only driver skill, it is also pit crew skill and tactics that wins a race.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: SlapShot on June 12, 2011, 10:15:51 AM
It sure could have went over but it just hung on the top of the barrier. Miracle indeed. May need to rais the height on those barriers.

Did you notice that he actually hit something before the barrier wall that actually launched him into the air. Whatever that was, is what needs to be looked at ... and removed if possible.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: ACE on June 12, 2011, 11:32:29 AM
wow, im sorry, but what was that? a little bump and it looked like the car's axis bent.

those toy F1 cars make nascars plastic look tough.  :uhoh
Little bump?  F1 cars?  Plastic onNascar? Do you know what your talking about?
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Slash27 on June 12, 2011, 12:42:37 PM
Did you notice that he actually hit something before the barrier wall that actually launched him into the air. Whatever that was, is what needs to be looked at ... and removed if possible.
I didn't till you pointed it out. Trying to frame be frame with my phone and it looks like he hits a section of the rail thats angled to a point towards the track. Looked like some sort of green guard on it. Hard to tell.

And what does schizer mean in German?? :D
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Lusche on June 12, 2011, 01:27:58 PM
And what does schizer mean in German?? :D


He was probably saying "Scheiße". http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=CqhggsWkAA&search=Schei%C3%9Fe
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 12, 2011, 01:43:15 PM

He was probably saying "Scheiße". http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=CqhggsWkAA&search=Schei%C3%9Fe
:lol on public TV..thats aloud?
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Lusche on June 12, 2011, 01:52:58 PM
:lol on public TV..thats aloud?

Yes.  :)
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 12, 2011, 02:03:14 PM
Come on now ... It takes great skill to run a complete and clean race and to put yourself in a position at the end of a race to win regardless of the circumstances or variables that change as a race progresses. It is not only driver skill, it is also pit crew skill and tactics that wins a race.

skill to get one to the end of the race.....but often times luck that the other guy happens to make a mistake, which is often the only chance one has of taking the checkered.......and that is so much more exciting than watching somoene just walk away from the pack.....
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: camnite on June 12, 2011, 04:55:16 PM
I didn't till you pointed it out. Trying to frame be frame with my phone and it looks like he hits a section of the rail thats angled to a point towards the track. Looked like some sort of green guard on it. Hard to tell.

if you look closely there is a ramp like effect coming off that gravel since it wasn't level with it
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Xasthur on June 13, 2011, 12:56:49 AM
Here is a big crash in the Australian V8 racing championship from a few weeks ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnPZRvM4Pso&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnPZRvM4Pso&feature=related)
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: clerick on June 13, 2011, 02:23:37 AM
Wasn't there a thread a while back questioning why we bother to race?  Take one good look at this crash and then realize that the technology that allowed these drivers to walk away WILL be incorporated into your road car someday.  The materials used in these cars are not only far lighter than your average family sedan but they are stronger too.  Imagine being able to build a road car with this technology at a reasonable price point.  not only would you have safer cars but the weight savings would do wonders for your fuel economy. 

MOAR RACING!
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MiloMorai on June 13, 2011, 06:06:56 AM
Great, just what we need on the roads, more people that think they are invincible because of all the safety features built into the cars.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Xasthur on June 13, 2011, 06:35:15 AM
Great, just what we need on the roads, more people that think they are invincible because of all the safety features built into the cars.

You could say the same thing about ABS, air bags and seat belts.... I don't think many people go around saying "To hell with safe driving, I'VE GOT AIRBAGS!!!!! WOOOOOO!"

Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 13, 2011, 07:44:59 AM
Wasn't there a thread a while back questioning why we bother to race?  Take one good look at this crash and then realize that the technology that allowed these drivers to walk away WILL be incorporated into your road car someday.  The materials used in these cars are not only far lighter than your average family sedan but they are stronger too.  Imagine being able to build a road car with this technology at a reasonable price point.  not only would you have safer cars but the weight savings would do wonders for your fuel economy. 

MOAR RACING!

 yea....i was kinda thinking that. the driver walked away from a crash that was 10 times worse than crashes on the street.........and that same crash in a 60's vintage car....or as penguin likes to call them....... a legacy car.......would prove fatal.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 13, 2011, 07:45:54 AM
You could say the same thing about ABS, air bags and seat belts.... I don't think many people go around saying "To hell with safe driving, I'VE GOT AIRBAGS!!!!! WOOOOOO!"



 no, they don't go around saying that....but they do relax because their airbags, or abs, or whatever, will save them.  :noid
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Scherf on June 13, 2011, 08:46:18 AM
Le Mans has a rather sad tradition of cars and associated bits flying over the fence.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Reaper90 on June 13, 2011, 11:53:31 AM
Since no one else has said it so far......

 :banana: :banana: :banana:WTFG CORVETTE!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

(http://dlstatic.speedtv.com/imageserve/08Tj58ZaDvbgo/575x459.jpg?fit=scale&background=000000)

Way to show Ferrari, BMW, Aston, Porsche, and Lotus who the BIG DOG is!!!

 :rock

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Post by: mechanic on June 13, 2011, 11:56:01 AM
That is one sexy looking car, vettes have improved in looks every new year.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Reaper90 on June 13, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Yes, they do keep getting better and better.

Funny thing about the 74 Corvette winning GT Pro was that it was the slower of the two Corvettes, and came from a lap down with just over 2 hours felt to win. The 73 Corvette was actually DOMINATING GT Pro for most of the race til it was taken out by a Porsche that it was in the process of putting another lap down.  :mad:

Woulda' been nice to see a Corvette 1-2 finish in GT Pro.

We'll take First Place by itself, though.  :D
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 13, 2011, 12:23:32 PM
till this current gen corvette, and the one just before......the last good looking vette(in my opinion) was the 69.
 
 if i were gonna buy a chevy right now, for anything other than utility.....it'd be a vette.

 and yes......glad to see an american ride show the way.  :aok
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: whiteman on June 13, 2011, 01:40:14 PM
Rocky's crash was the bigger impact, don't think the GT Amateur class can survive as is after the two wrecks with the Audis. BTW a Vette won the GT Amateur class also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UULKExSNK-I&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UULKExSNK-I&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESrhrKc9WrU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESrhrKc9WrU)

Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 13, 2011, 01:48:47 PM
not a Vette fan, too popular. not a Chevy fan either....but a Vette taking wins in 2 classes, impressive.


if Chevy would enter into the F1A....maybe i would sway my mind.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 13, 2011, 01:57:02 PM
not a Vette fan, too popular. not a Chevy fan either....but a Vette taking wins in 2 classes, impressive.


if Chevy would enter into the F1A....maybe i would sway my mind.

 i think you guys already know i'm a ford nut.....but since ford isn't entering into these races....then i'll root for the next best, which is chevy.  :aok
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 13, 2011, 02:05:57 PM
i think you guys already know i'm a ford nut.....but since ford isn't entering into these races....then i'll root for the next best, which is Dodge.  :aok
fixed...


out of the loop...does dodge run in LeMans? i know they run ALMS.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 13, 2011, 02:09:43 PM
fixed...


out of the loop...does dodge run in LeMans? i know they run ALMS.

 i thought they used to run the viper, but dunno if they still have anything in there.

 it'd be cool to see them and ford put something in there though. just to stir things up a bit.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 13, 2011, 02:16:54 PM
i thought they used to run the viper, but dunno if they still have anything in there.

 it'd be cool to see them and ford put something in there though. just to stir things up a bit.
+1
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: SlapShot on June 13, 2011, 02:20:15 PM
Does this count as Ford ...

ROBERTSON RACING LLC
USA
FORD GT-DORAN

(http://www.all-free-photos.com/images/lemans-2011/PI49653-hr.jpg)
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 13, 2011, 02:20:42 PM
Does this count as Ford ...

ROBERTSON RACING LLC
USA
FORD GT-DORAN
hes running in this season?
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: CAP1 on June 13, 2011, 02:21:23 PM
Does this count as Ford ...

ROBERTSON RACING LLC
USA
FORD GT-DORAN

  hhmm.....apparently so.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: 68ZooM on June 13, 2011, 02:28:47 PM
i think you guys already know i'm a ford nut.....but since ford isn't entering into these races....then i'll root for the next best, which is chevy.  :aok

Well actually Robertson Racing Teams 5.0L V8 Ford GT-R Mk. VII finished 26th overall and 2nd place in (am LMGTE Class) at the 24 hours of Le Mans and Pratt & Miller Engineering aka (Covette Racing) C6.R 5.5L V8 finished in 11th overall, and took 1st (pro LMGTE) Class and ( Larbre Competition) took 1st in the (am LMGTE class). i always like to watch Ford and Chevy compete at Le Mans, Chevy still rules the day between them at Le Mans.



edited to show Larbe Competition took 1st in (am LMGTE) class
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: SlapShot on June 13, 2011, 02:29:17 PM
hes running in this season?

He was listed LM GTE Am ...

http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/1/1/ressources/Pdf/2011/24heures_du_mans/2011-liste-equipages-invites.pdf

Edit : Looks like 68Zoom has the official scoop.
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Post by: whiteman on June 13, 2011, 02:42:18 PM
i thought they used to run the viper, but dunno if they still have anything in there.

 it'd be cool to see them and ford put something in there though. just to stir things up a bit.

ORECA Matmut use to run the Dodges but i believe they were labeled as Chryslers, was still a Viper at the end of the day and that was years ago. I didn't see a Viper on the spotters guide this year and don't remember the last time i did see one on it for Le Mans or the ALMS.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: SlapShot on June 13, 2011, 02:43:17 PM
Well actually Robertson Racing Teams 5.0L V8 Ford GT-R Mk. VII finished 26th overall and 2nd place in (am LMGTE Class) at the 24 hours of Le Mans and Pratt & Miller Engineering aka (Covette Racing) C6.R 5.5L V8 finished in 11th overall, and took 1st (pro LMGTE) Class and 1st in the (am LMGTE class). i always like to watch Ford and Chevy compete at Le Mans, Chevy still rules the day between them at Le Mans.

I see the Robertson Racing LLC Ford GT-R finishing 3rd in it's class ... behind the Larbre Competition Porsche 911 RSR (997) and then the Larbre Larbre Competition Chevy Corvette C6 Z.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: 68ZooM on June 13, 2011, 02:51:11 PM
ahhh your right i missed the second place Porsche good catch  :aok   i should of been more specific on the two Corvette teams, i was referring to how well the C6.R's did, sorry for the confusion  :bhead
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: SlapShot on June 13, 2011, 03:27:28 PM
The Corvettes taking 1st place in both the GTE Pro and the GTE Am is HUGE !!!

Corvettes would have finished 1st and 2nd in GTE Pro had the #74 Corvette, which was currently running 1st, not gotten into a crash with a Porsche. With the #74 Corvette out, the #73 Corvette had to make up 1 lap, with 6 hours remaining, before taking the win.
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Penguin on June 13, 2011, 03:29:55 PM
yea....i was kinda thinking that. the driver walked away from a crash that was 10 times worse than crashes on the street.........and that same crash in a 60's vintage car....or as penguin likes to call them....... a legacy car.......would prove fatal.

You have a point, it seems that I've underestimated the value of racing.  It makes cars safer for the rest of us.  On the other hand I've called 60s cars legacy cars?  If you would show me the quote, I'll :rofl

-Penguin
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Slash27 on June 13, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
That is one sexy looking car, vettes have improved in looks every new year.
:aok
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: clerick on June 14, 2011, 02:09:39 AM
i think you guys already know i'm a ford nut.....but since ford isn't entering into these races....then i'll root for the next best, which is chevy.  :aok

It is a tragedy that Ford didn't put some factory GT's together.  You build a car with racing heritage and then don't race it??? Bah!
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Nilsen on June 14, 2011, 06:21:08 AM
Not interested in racing or cars at all but Le Mans is the exception to the rule :) I sat there for 24 hours straight watching these sexy machines just hoping for a miracle and that the Oreca or Pescarolo cars would LMP1 and LMP2 " :D

Yup 24 hours straight with the missus serving me refreshments :)
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 14, 2011, 06:30:44 AM
Not interested in racing or cars at all but Le Mans is the exception to the rule :) I sat there for 24 hours straight watching these sexy machines just hoping for a miracle and that the Oreca or Pescarolo cars would LMP1 and LMP2 " :D

Yup 24 hours straight with the missus serving me refreshments :)
lucky...
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: Nilsen on June 14, 2011, 06:34:03 AM
Hehe yes. She did make an 8 hour pitstop but I did not break down once :)
Title: Re: Le Mans 24 Hours almost had a huge fatal crash!
Post by: MaSonZ on June 14, 2011, 06:39:18 AM
 :rofl