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Title: Falling Skies
Post by: Raptor on June 20, 2011, 02:42:31 PM
Anyone else watch the pilot of this series on TNT? I went into it with low expectations and enjoyed it. Basically same as Walking Dead, but aliens instead of Zombies. Looks like it has a higher budget than Walking Dead, slightly better CGI and acting. However I still prefer the story and writing for Walking Dead.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Shuffler on June 20, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
I saw previews...... at least it's not a reality show.

I saw that it was coming on last night but did not get a chance to see it.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Soulyss on June 20, 2011, 03:26:24 PM
The production seems very similar to Walking Dead although I felt like the writing and acting was a little stronger in Falling Skies.  Some of the dialogue in Walking Dead made me cringe.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: 321BAR on June 20, 2011, 04:56:52 PM
watched it and loved it. ill be lookin for it next week :D
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Maverick on June 20, 2011, 05:09:46 PM
I saw it. Maybe I was expecting too much but it was a bit disappointing to me. I thought the acting was wooden and they tried to roll too much into it with the criminal hijackers. I thought it was kind of funny that the aliens who can traverse space systems didn't get small arms to any higher level than cartridge style weapons. Their "missiles" or air to ground weapons were definitely advanced. The fact that the "skitters" are really so hard to kill is a bit much. A full auto AK can't penetrate them but a shotgun and a big bore pistol with hollow points can.  :huh  :huh

I'll watch a couple episodes when it goes to weekly shows but I am not really all that impressed by it. I thought Battle LA was better in the acting and "reality" aspect.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: USRanger on June 20, 2011, 05:29:50 PM
I enjoyed it enough to make it one of my few weekly shows. :aok
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: 68ZooM on June 20, 2011, 05:37:19 PM
i watched it, the beginning sort of threw you into the war without really knowing how they came here other than the little kids drawings and commentary at the start of the show, maybe a few episodes into it they will reveal how they came here. i'll watch it for awhile and see where it goes.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: 321BAR on June 20, 2011, 05:38:13 PM
I saw it. Maybe I was expecting too much but it was a bit disappointing to me. I thought the acting was wooden and they tried to roll too much into it with the criminal hijackers. I thought it was kind of funny that the aliens who can traverse space systems didn't get small arms to any higher level than cartridge style weapons. Their "missiles" or air to ground weapons were definitely advanced. The fact that the "skitters" are really so hard to kill is a bit much. A full auto AK can't penetrate them but a shotgun and a big bore pistol with hollow points can.  :huh  :huh

I'll watch a couple episodes when it goes to weekly shows but I am not really all that impressed by it. I thought Battle LA was better in the acting and "reality" aspect.
why make the foot soldiers have hand helds when the armor itself can protect them? and also we havent seen a weapon yet. could find they have them later.

close range shotgun would have that impact just from the blunt force and the pistol was that close also. like they said you gotta get close to penetrate the armor no matter the weapon. by the way they never said the AK couldnt, just not from how far he shot it. bet ya if he was point blank itd go through also.

Humans cant use heavy weapons under threat of heavy retaliation therefore the skitters dont need weaponry as they ALWAYS have a mech to cover long range and skitters move in hand to hand after humans cant fire back as easily. so why need the firearms for the skitters when the armor covers them enough to do the job beyond necessity?
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Raptor on June 20, 2011, 08:35:34 PM
I'll watch a couple episodes when it goes to weekly shows but I am not really all that impressed by it. I thought Battle LA was better in the acting and "reality" aspect.
If this were a movie, then I would agree with you. Since this is a TV series, I will say it is going to be of lesser quality.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Devil 505 on June 20, 2011, 09:10:52 PM
I like what I've seen so far. Much better than "V" or "The Event", but not as good "The Walking Dead".
For a post alien invasion story, it had the feel of what a post Judgement Day, Terminator story should be. (Terminator: Salvation really dropped the ball)
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Rob52240 on June 20, 2011, 09:15:07 PM
I liked it even though it did seem like a cross between the Walking Dead and the Tripods.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Maverick on June 20, 2011, 10:59:58 PM
why make the foot soldiers have hand helds when the armor itself can protect them? and also we havent seen a weapon yet. could find they have them later.

close range shotgun would have that impact just from the blunt force and the pistol was that close also. like they said you gotta get close to penetrate the armor no matter the weapon. by the way they never said the AK couldnt, just not from how far he shot it. bet ya if he was point blank itd go through also.

Humans cant use heavy weapons under threat of heavy retaliation therefore the skitters dont need weaponry as they ALWAYS have a mech to cover long range and skitters move in hand to hand after humans cant fire back as easily. so why need the firearms for the skitters when the armor covers them enough to do the job beyond necessity?


Once you get past the point that a shotgun has intimidation power (to humans in this case) you start to look at ballistics. The 7.62x39 round has far far more penetration power than a shotgun with buckshot. A handgun is so far behind the rifle round it isn't funny. The fact that they made a point of insisting on a hollow point round in the pistol is even more ludicrous for penetration. The tactics of the skitters is not my concern, my point is that the show has an inferior weapon, especially the pistol as more effective in penetration of the alien. In short they have is bassactwards.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Rob52240 on June 21, 2011, 12:16:06 AM
Their website had some photo's under the heading Weapons:
They have a photo of a Squad Automatic Weapon but it's labeled as a 'Browning M-50, 50 cal machine gun'
at least the got it right in the show with that M2 monted in a GTO although I think pickup trucks would be more realistic, this being set in America and all.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: -tronski- on June 21, 2011, 03:15:20 AM
Only watched the first ep, and 1/2 of the second but will have to see how it develops - In some respects I expected a cross between BSG & Red Dawn - but got neither.

The Aliens need to watch some James Cameron blu rays or something, because my biggest concern about the show was how casual the humans were - or how bad the Aliens military are.
They're hold up on a "mission" near that school, and they are all standing out in the open with a guy who's SAW is sitting at his feet while he's laughing and break dancing...huh? What the?
I get the insurgent angle of the show, but when the Opfor considers any human a target, standing around in the open seems kinda insane. For an Alien force which has wiped out the organised militaries of the planet - but doesn't have the tech to spot a column of 100 fighters /200 civvies with mixed vehicles walking along a highway out of a major metro area in broad daylight?!?

Looks promising, but needs a lot of work

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Raptor on June 21, 2011, 08:39:17 AM
Only watched the first ep, and 1/2 of the second but will have to see how it develops - In some respects I expected a cross between BSG & Red Dawn - but got neither.

The Aliens need to watch some James Cameron blu rays or something, because my biggest concern about the show was how casual the humans were - or how bad the Aliens military are.
They're hold up on a "mission" near that school, and they are all standing out in the open with a guy who's SAW is sitting at his feet while he's laughing and break dancing...huh? What the?
I get the insurgent angle of the show, but when the Opfor considers any human a target, standing around in the open seems kinda insane. For an Alien force which has wiped out the organised militaries of the planet - but doesn't have the tech to spot a column of 100 fighters /200 civvies with mixed vehicles walking along a highway out of a major metro area in broad daylight?!?

Looks promising, but needs a lot of work

 Tronsky
I agree with this point, it was something that bothered me during the show. Instead of the aliens actively pursuing the people, they seem to set traps with 1 alien and 1 mech unti. Still I feel that the flying craft would spot a large group of people and swiftly bomb them (especially considering they see using heat)
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Sabre on June 21, 2011, 01:51:24 PM
Only half way through the pilot episode, but have noted a lot of the plot holes and technical inconsistencies mentioned above already.  So far, the acting and dialog has felt wooden and cliche in turn.  Beyond that, nothing about the way the aliens or humans are acting really seems to fit the situation.  I found "The Walking Dead" far superior thus far. Unless it gets better quick, I won't likely keep following Falling Skies.  Dropping the viewer into the middle of this, with only the child's narration to set the stage, was woefully inadequate, and a cop-out in my book. This was also a problem I had with Walking Dead, but at least there were a few flashbacks where needed to help you understand how the charactors came to be were they are, and what their motivations are.

I did watch Battle: Los Angeles over the weekend, and actually found it quite good in many respects. The aliens and humans seemed to behave in a much more logical and believable way, though I'm not certain trading most of a platoon for four civilians trapped behind enemy lines was realistic. However, the aliens troops and the human troops behaved in combat in nearly identical fashion, showing that some concepts are universal.  The action was much more fast-paced, and the story was easy to follow, told as it was from the Marine grunt's viewpoint. Because it was less bold in the viewpoint being presented, it was easier to tell a coherent story. Falling Skies I think is probably trying to do too much, perhaps.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Grayeagle on June 22, 2011, 01:41:34 PM
Liked it.. beatsa heck outta most of what's avail these days.
Lookin forward to where they go with it .. interesting to see who they cast for what char.

'the Sarge' leader type kinda cracked me up .. he's askin for a session out back if he doesn't lighten up.
Don't get me wrong .. I've met cartoon character 'leader types' like that ..they suck at it.
Invariably they end up shootin themselves in the foot and not bein 'leaders' for long.

He should have watched the Tsgt in Aliens for some pointers on how to.

LOL .. just my 2 copper

-Frank aka GE
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Sabre on June 22, 2011, 01:51:14 PM
Okay, finished watching the pilot and my opinion hasn't changed much. The whole thing about going back to the armory, when it's clearly staked out by the aliens is BS. And since they know the aliens are watching it, and the aliens now know they know, are they really so stupid as to either A) call in reinforces to stomp on the humans should they return, or B) figuring the humans wouldn't be stupid enough to come back soon, just level the place to make certain there's nothing the humans can use when/if they do. Also, where did all the little fires burning around the criminals' hideout come from? Also, the aliens are drawn by a flaregun like mosquito's to a bug-zapper, but don't care about the campfires and internally lit homes of the humans? Really?  Even then, they only drop one bomb on the flares then go home. How did these stupid aliens manage to wipe out the US Army????

Okay, done ranting. I'll give it two more episodes for the writers to pull their collective heads out of the rectal database, then I'm done.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: kilo2 on June 22, 2011, 02:21:25 PM
Okay, finished watching the pilot and my opinion hasn't changed much. The whole thing about going back to the armory, when it's clearly staked out by the aliens is BS. And since they know the aliens are watching it, and the aliens now know they know, are they really so stupid as to either A) call in reinforces to stomp on the humans should they return, or B) figuring the humans wouldn't be stupid enough to come back soon, just level the place to make certain there's nothing the humans can use when/if they do. Also, where did all the little fires burning around the criminals' hideout come from? Also, the aliens are drawn by a flaregun like mosquito's to a bug-zapper, but don't care about the campfires and internally lit homes of the humans? Really?  Even then, they only drop one bomb on the flares then go home. How did these stupid aliens manage to wipe out the US Army????

Okay, done ranting. I'll give it two more episodes for the writers to pull their collective heads out of the rectal database, then I'm done.

Hard to judge from a pilot. The walking dead pilot if i recall was good but a few episodes in the middle had some terrible terrible terrible dialog.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Sabre on June 30, 2011, 11:53:54 AM
Watched the second episode. My opinion has not much improved. All previous comments still in effect.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: Dichotomy on June 30, 2011, 12:34:09 PM
I'm with you Sabre.  I've got it set to record but even my ability to suspend disbelief is being stretched. 

And Noah Wylies character can't shoot worth a !@#%
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: cpxxx on June 30, 2011, 05:46:05 PM
Well I hope it's good as good as the walking dead. I really don't do much TV anymore but the walking dead got me interested. Did anyone else notice the British Chieftain tank disguised to look like an M1? Given that that the lead actor is a Brit made me think it was made in the UK but you can't fake Georgia! Looking forward to series two.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: rogwar on June 30, 2011, 08:46:09 PM
Had it recorded. Made it about 30 minutes into the pilot. Deleted.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: crazyivan on June 30, 2011, 08:48:06 PM
Well "The Walking Dead" pilot episode could've been a possible movie. Not saying the same for "Falling Skies", but I'm giving it a go.
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: crazyivan on June 30, 2011, 08:49:13 PM
Hard to judge from a pilot. The walking dead pilot if i recall was good but a few episodes in the middle had some terrible terrible terrible dialog.
Yeah it did whew!
Title: Re: Falling Skies
Post by: clerick on July 01, 2011, 03:19:03 AM
I sort of liked it.  It's scifi, so the suspension of disbelief knob is turned to 11 anyway. Are there plot holes? Sure, but I'm OK with that.

With the disappearance of SGU due to the WWE wanting their time slot I'm desperate for some good scifi on the tube.