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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: daddog on June 27, 2011, 10:24:06 PM
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Anyone have a program they can suggest?
I would use it for the few games I play, but also with my video editing I do.
I have Windows 7 64bit
GeoForce GTX 260
4 GB Memory
Intel Core Duo E8500 3.16GHz
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Anyone have a program they can suggest?
I would use it for the few games I play, but also with my video editing I do.
I have Windows 7 64bit
GeoForce GTX 260
4 GB Memory
Intel Core Duo E8500 3.16GHz
You don't need any program for that. Win7 uses your memory as a ram cache but it releases the ram if you need it for other programs.
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You don't need any program for that. Win7 uses your memory as a ram cache but it releases the ram if you need it for other programs.
:headscratch: ya right, where do you come up with this stuff ripley?
daddog, how much physical memory do you have and how big is your paging file after a clean boot?
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You don't need any program for that. Win7 uses your memory as a ram cache but it releases the ram if you need it for other programs.
Windows has been doing that since Windows 98. It just got more aggressive with the later versions.
Windows active processes stay resident. Even the sleeping ones take up some system RAM. The more you have running, the longer a context switch will take. It is the nature of the beast.
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Thanks gents,
So I gather the answer is I don't need one or they don't have one.
Gyrene81 forgive me. Rather ignorant to the tech end of things. I thought the 'physical' memory was your RAM, (mine is 4 Gigs). I don't know how to check my paging file after a boot. I will Google that and see what it is. :)
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Ok, my virtual memory/paging file size (If I understand this correctly) is 4094 for all drives.
I read that it can help (speed) to increase it, but not sure how much I should increase it to. Also read that it could slow things down as it would be using the hard drive as memory as opposed to my RAM.
:headscratch:
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sorry daddog, i've developed a habit of using the term physical memory around here because those are the words used to identify how much ram the system has in the task manager and the system hardware information panel.
you have enough ram on that system unless you plan on running a lot of different programs while gaming. your paging file allocation size seems a bit low though. i think the general rule of thumb is min=1/2 physical memory and max=1.5 times physical memory, not absolutely sure about the numbers but you really do not want windows to manage the paging file allocation.
when you do a fresh boot, before doing anything else, run task manager and look at the performance tab...that will show you how much of your physical memory is being used before starting any programs. the memory usage should be less 900 megabytes or less after a fresh boot with your anti-virus turned off. to get it lower, you're going to have to disable some advanced services that most people don't use anyway. skuzzy has a decent list in the technical support section under "vista performance hints and tips", and there are several other respected sources on the web that will give you a full list with descriptions.
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Will do.
Thanks again! :)
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:headscratch: ya right, where do you come up with this stuff ripley?
Microsoft perhaps?
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Daddog,
have you checked out AlacrityPC??
http://alacritypc.kensalter.com/
This program will help shutdown needless background stuff to free up memory and cpu cycles. I used to use his FSautostart program way back when and this is basically the same thing but updated for vista/win7 use.
I know Skuzzy isnt a big fan of these types of programs but for your average user like you or I it will do exactly what your looking for.
BTW,I've used this program to solve several players disco issues that were caused by either a background program updating or using too much cpu that AH was dropped.
of course YMMV.
:salute
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if you use the auto function in alacrity and don't know what it does or how to undo, you will mess up your system. I tried it, tried to undo it and had to reinstall windows.
goto blackviper.com. and figure out which processes you don't use and disable them. just be careful about disabling some windows diagnostics them if youhave a problem connecting to the internet then you are on your own. windows won't auto fix your connection.
semp
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recently found this seems easy to use
http://home.comcast.net/~animl/xpgl.htm
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i am with skuzzy on this one. do it manually and remove processes you dont need instead of adding 1 or 2 more using a program just to get rid of a few. main thing is there are a few processed that dont need to run at all. so game utilities are only a bandaid. also there's some people that are educated enough to run ah with only a couple of processes, rest of us if we get it down to mid 30's (win7) that is gold :pray.
or you can be like me, my computer is fast enough for me to only worry about processes that may be a security risk. I play with eset, trakir, usb headset, stick, pedals, youtube (music), fraps and about 40 proccesses and I get full 60 frames with everything maxed and shadows at 2k. well my fps sometimes it goes down to 50 but that is due to a zillion planes flying around the cv ack :D.
semp
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i am with skuzzy on this one. do it manually and remove processes you dont need instead of adding 1 or 2 more using a program just to get rid of a few. main thing is there are a few processed that dont need to run at all. so game utilities are only a bandaid. also there's some people that are educated enough to run ah with only a couple of processes, rest of us if we get it down to mid 30's (win7) that is gold :pray.
or you can be like me, my computer is fast enough for me to only worry about processes that may be a security risk. I play with eset, trakir, usb headset, stick, pedals, youtube (music), fraps and about 40 proccesses and I get full 60 frames with everything maxed and shadows at 2k. well my fps sometimes it goes down to 50 but that is due to a zillion planes flying around the cv ack :D.
semp
damn dude must be a sweet system :aok
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damn dude must be a sweet system :aok
A regular 1000 dollar setup can do that easy. I also play almost with 0 tweaking to win7 at full fps and my gaming computer atm has E8500 + 8 gigs of ram (cheap), Ati 5850hd...
Works like a charm, never had any performance problems. What should also be noted though is that the win7 is hand installed without any OEM crapware and the computer is used solely for gaming - no freeware crappolas etc. are installed on it. All my music work happens on mac, so is my office / graphics.
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A regular 1000 dollar setup can do that easy. I also play almost with 0 tweaking to win7 at full fps and my gaming computer atm has E8500 + 8 gigs of ram (cheap), Ati 5850hd...
Works like a charm, never had any performance problems. What should also be noted though is that the win7 is hand installed without any OEM crapware and the computer is used solely for gaming - no freeware crappolas etc. are installed on it. All my music work happens on mac, so is my office / graphics.
haha a regular $1,000 system........I have a bit less then $400 in my new internals....1000 bucks may be "regular" to you but to me that's a very serious system, if I had a grand to put into a system....it would be far from regular :rofl
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mrripley called bingo. I have a 2500k with 8 gigs of ram and 465 video card. only use mine to play ah and pay bills. I should say that to upgrade you can do it over time. you don't have to go out and spend 1k on the same day. it cost me less than 500 bucks to upgrade reusing most of my components.
semp
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I'd like to remind that VAT can make a big difference in computer pricing. A 1000 dollars setup bought in the USA may be a good gaming rig for years to come, but if the same amount of bucks is used e.g. here in Finland, you'd get a decent office computer, VAT being 23% and shipping costs higher due to small volumes. Wikipedia tells you more about the subject (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_added_tax)
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haha a regular $1,000 system........I have a bit less then $400 in my new internals....1000 bucks may be "regular" to you but to me that's a very serious system, if I had a grand to put into a system....it would be far from regular :rofl
Doesn't take a 1grand system to play well like Guncrasher. I play maxed (2048 textures, etc, 2K shadows), with ~40 processes at 60FR. With today's prices my system only cost ~$500 (not including case). :)
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Doesn't take a 1grand system to play well like Guncrasher. I play maxed (2048 textures, etc, 2K shadows), with ~40 processes at 60FR. With today's prices my system only cost ~$500 (not including case). :)
ya I totally redid my internals for far less then what I originally paid, and my system works great. very happy with it.
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haha a regular $1,000 system........I have a bit less then $400 in my new internals....1000 bucks may be "regular" to you but to me that's a very serious system, if I had a grand to put into a system....it would be far from regular :rofl
I don't exactly know what prices you have down here but for 1000 bucks (715 euros) you can get a mid-line computer that has no 'power' components in it. I'm running like 4 years old CPU/mobo/ram combo with near 2 year old graphics card, no tweaking done and maxed out.
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Doesn't take a 1grand system to play well like Guncrasher. I play maxed (2048 textures, etc, 2K shadows), with ~40 processes at 60FR. With today's prices my system only cost ~$500 (not including case). :)
you are reusing some components. win7 itself will cost you 100 bucks, which leaves you with:
400
cd 20
hd 50
ps 50 (and this is low)
280 (assuming no taxes, shipping) balance to get mobo, cpu, video card, ram. you can get a system for that much to play ah nicely but not with everything fully maxed out and shadows at 2048. it's like me saying I got that system for 250 bucks. which is what I paid for a new mobo/cpu/ram less what I got for my old parts and reused the rest.
anyway some of you guys think you have to buy everything brand new, well if you have a brand name computer you most likely will have to (dell, gateway, etc.) but if you think long term like some of us do, you wont spend lots of money to get a good computer.
this is how I did mine, i spent 1500 bucks on a gateway top of the line puter about 5 years ago. then I found out it was a pos 4 months later. 2 years later I bought a new case, mobo, vc and ps. reused the rest. over the next 6 months I bought parts to replace what I was reusing, since they were not the best. then I sold my gateway for 300 bucks and bought me a new monitor, keyboard, mouse plus ram. total cost for that was less than 700 bucks (about 1k less the 300 bucks) over a 6 month period. and that was a kick donut e8400 system with a 9800gtx+ evga video card that could play ah with everything maxed out.
like I said think, long term, if it takes you a year, then it will take you a year, but be patient and work within your budget. I could've spent more money than what I did at one time, but I really hate to waste money.
semp
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you are reusing some components. win7 itself will cost you 100 bucks, which leaves you with:
400
cd 20
hd 50
ps 50 (and this is low)
280 (assuming no taxes, shipping) balance to get mobo, cpu, video card, ram. you can get a system for that much to play ah nicely but not with everything fully maxed out and shadows at 2048. it's like me saying I got that system for 250 bucks. which is what I paid for a new mobo/cpu/ram less what I got for my old parts and reused the rest.
anyway some of you guys think you have to buy everything brand new, well if you have a brand name computer you most likely will have to (dell, gateway, etc.) but if you think long term like some of us do, you wont spend lots of money to get a good computer.
this is how I did mine, i spent 1500 bucks on a gateway top of the line puter about 5 years ago. then I found out it was a pos 4 months later. 2 years later I bought a new case, mobo, vc and ps. reused the rest. over the next 6 months I bought parts to replace what I was reusing, since they were not the best. then I sold my gateway for 300 bucks and bought me a new monitor, keyboard, mouse plus ram. total cost for that was less than 700 bucks (about 1k less the 300 bucks) over a 6 month period. and that was a kick donut e8400 system with a 9800gtx+ evga video card that could play ah with everything maxed out.
like I said think, long term, if it takes you a year, then it will take you a year, but be patient and work within your budget. I could've spent more money than what I did at one time, but I really hate to waste money.
semp
I did actually forget the HDD in the prices, nothing is re-used. I said "using today's prices", and some parts I use have dropped/no longer sold.
Mobo: ASUS M4A88T-M LE $80
CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 555 $87
RAM: G.Skill 4GB DDR3-1333 $42
GPU: EVGA GTX 260 216 core $130 (NE Recertificed)
PSU: OCZ StealthX 700W $90 (No longer sold that I can find)
HDD: WD 1TD Black Ed $90
DVD: ASUS DVD-Drive $20
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$539 or ~$500
Add-in my case and the price jumps up to over $600, but most people don't want/need my case.