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Title: P-75 Eagle
Post by: oakranger on July 03, 2011, 12:57:44 AM
I have never seen or heard this plan before. Interesting story behind the P-75. Came close to put into action, but too many problems that push it back. However, I think the Germans 109 and 190s would outmatch it.
(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp20/skbluestem/fisher-p-75a-eagle.jpg)

    Crew: One
    Length: 40 ft 5 in (12.32 m)
    Wingspan: 49 ft 4 in (15.04 m)
    Height: 15 ft 6 in (4.72 m)
    Wing area: 347 ft² (32.24 m²)
    Empty weight: 11,495 lb (5,214 kg)
    Loaded weight: 19,420 lb[7] (8808 kg)
    Max takeoff weight: 18,210 lb (8,260 kg)
    Powerplant: 1× Allison V-3420-23 liquid-cooled 24-cylinder double-Vee, 2,885 hp (2,150 kW)

Performance

    Maximum speed: 433 mph (697 km/h) at 20,000 (6,100 m)
    Range: 2,050 mi (3,300 km)
    Service ceiling: 36,400 ft (11,100 m)
    Rate of climb: 4,200 ft/min (21.3 m/s)
    Wing loading: 39.8 lb/ft² (194.3 kg/m²)
    Power/mass: 0.21 hp/lb (0.34 kW/kg)

Armament

    6x 0.5 in (12.7 mm) wing mounted machine guns
    4x 0.5 in (12.7 mm) fuselage mounted machine guns
    2x 500 lb (227 kg) bombs
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: Slash27 on July 03, 2011, 01:07:21 AM
(http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/rys/rys056.jpg)

 :noid
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: AWwrgwy on July 03, 2011, 08:04:07 AM
I have never seen or heard this plan before. Interesting story behind the P-75. Came close to put into action, but too many problems that push it back. However, I think the Germans 109 and 190s would outmatch it.
(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp20/skbluestem/fisher-p-75a-eagle.jpg)

    Crew: One
    Length: 40 ft 5 in (12.32 m)
    Wingspan: 49 ft 4 in (15.04 m)
    Height: 15 ft 6 in (4.72 m)
    Wing area: 347 ft² (32.24 m²)
    Empty weight: 11,495 lb (5,214 kg)
    Loaded weight: 19,420 lb[7] (8808 kg)
    Max takeoff weight: 18,210 lb (8,260 kg)
    Powerplant: 1× Allison V-3420-23 liquid-cooled 24-cylinder double-Vee, 2,885 hp (2,150 kW)

Performance

    Maximum speed: 433 mph (697 km/h) at 20,000 (6,100 m)
    Range: 2,050 mi (3,300 km)
    Service ceiling: 36,400 ft (11,100 m)
    Rate of climb: 4,200 ft/min (21.3 m/s)
    Wing loading: 39.8 lb/ft² (194.3 kg/m²)
    Power/mass: 0.21 hp/lb (0.34 kW/kg)

Armament

    6x 0.5 in (12.7 mm) wing mounted machine guns
    4x 0.5 in (12.7 mm) fuselage mounted machine guns
    2x 500 lb (227 kg) bombs


Did not come close to seeing action.

AFAIK it was GM's attempt to get out of forced government airplane manufacturing during the war. It was built around an untested, unrealable engine with assorted parts from other planes already in production. Outer wings from a P-40, tail from an SBD, landing gear from an F4U, ect.

If anything it was one of those government boondoggles where a company was paid big bucks for essentially doing nothing.

IIRC there was even an investigation after the war into the waste of funds and manufacturing when other things were needed for the war effort.


wrongway
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: Rino on July 03, 2011, 09:39:50 AM
     Wright Patterson has one, and even in person it's a face only a mother could love  :uhoh

(http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/imgs/fisher-xp75-eagle.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_q5AIAJNvlfI/S_Eq5kL1gQI/AAAAAAAABbE/6iY28kt6BKQ/s1600/Fisher_P-75A_Eagle.jpg)
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: Skyguns MKII on July 03, 2011, 12:54:33 PM
Not that ugly, looks like the the next step of making jet fighter style body's. aside from from the wings.
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 03, 2011, 12:58:16 PM
Fuselage makes me think of an F-86 for some reason, put in a jet engine, change the tail and sweep the wings back and it would some what look like one.
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: B-17 on July 03, 2011, 01:18:44 PM
Looks like someone took the wings of a P-51 and the fuselage of the P-39, put a P-47's canopy on it, and called it a plane. :neener:
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: cpxxx on July 03, 2011, 02:27:47 PM
Might be very interesting at Reno. Interestingly I had heard of that aircraft before. Makes me a real nerd!
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: Rino on July 03, 2011, 02:50:16 PM
Fuselage makes me think of an F-86 for some reason, put in a jet engine, change the tail and sweep the wings back and it would some what look like one.

     That is a serious stretch IMHO  :lol

     Even the Mig-15 studmuffinot looks downright sexy compared to an eagle  :rofl

(http://historyoflight.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/mig15-f86.jpg)

     Ooops, apparently the forum mod doesn't like the NATO nickname for the Mig :(
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 03, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
     That is a serious stretch IMHO  :lol

     Even the Mig-15 studmuffinot looks downright sexy compared to an eagle  :rofl

(http://historyoflight.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/mig15-f86.jpg)
I must be using my imagination to much, Because I can clearly see it. Just look at the main fuselage for a bit.
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: ebfd11 on July 03, 2011, 03:16:20 PM
The Fisher P-75 Eagle was intended to fill the Army Air Forces' 1942 need for an interceptor. Its unique design featured two coaxial contra-rotating propellers connected by dual drive shafts running under the cockpit to a 24-cylinder, liquid-cooled engine located amidships. The original concept called for use of proven airframe components such as P-40 wing panels, A-24 tail, and F4U landing gear--to reduce the design and testing period.

The first of two XP-75s using component parts made its initial flight on Nov. 17, 1943. Flight tests revealed unsatisfactory performance. This, combined with a mission change from interceptor to long-range escort, caused major changes in the original design. Ultimately, the idea of using proven airframe components had to be abandoned. The AAF ordered six XP-75s of the revised configuration along with 2,500 P-75As. The improved version was still unsatisfactory and after three Eagles had crashed, the entire program was canceled on Nov. 8, 1944. Only eight XP-75s and six P-75As were built.

Type    Number built/converted    Remarks
XP-75-GM          2                     Composite design
XP-75-GC          6                    Production prototype
P-75A          6                    Long-range escort; 2,494 canceled


All info taken from Patterson Wright Museum web site.

LawnDart
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: oakranger on July 03, 2011, 10:06:07 PM
It sure is a fat bird, Empty weight: 11,495 lb. 
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: Dragon on July 04, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
I believe Arnold said it best.  "Your one ugly mother f......."
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 04, 2011, 11:05:15 AM
I believe Arnold said it best.  "Your one ugly mother f......."

:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: FiLtH on July 04, 2011, 09:04:50 PM
A P51, P39 and a helicopter walk into a bar...
Title: Re: P-75 Eagle
Post by: B-17 on July 05, 2011, 06:32:06 AM
A P51, P39 and a helicopter walk into a bar...

:rofl :rofl :rofl