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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Slade on July 03, 2011, 08:07:49 AM
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Hello,
With respect to scores, perhaps shooting down a Spit16 in a C202 (or A6M2, BF109e etc.) should amount to more than an LA7 shooting one down as it applies to scores? A lot more. Proportional. Of course there are perks for such a sortie (different topic).
The premise is this: should the plane you are in when shooting down an opponent be factored in in a meaningful, accurate and proportionate way?
I am not score obsessed BTW. This just occurred to me though.
Perhaps this kinda change could lead to the score obsessed flying other planes besides Spit16s, LA7s, Tempest etc. If killing a Spit16 in a Wildcat was equivalent to getting 3 kills score-wise. Do you see? ;-)
I look forward to your comments.
Slade :salute
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To state the obvious: this would be all too ripe for abuse, moreso than the system we have in place already.
Just be satisfied to see: "System: Slade dished out pwnsauce in his craptastic fighter for 3 kills"
:aok
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this would be all too ripe for abuse
Please explain how it would be abused. I am not talking about Channel 200 announcements. No change suggested there.
If abusing it by flying non-perky planes to shoot down perky planes is bad. ;-)
Thanks for spelling this out.
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Slade,
shooting down a spit16 in a c202 counts more than shooting down a c202 in a spit16. Its in the "kill points" section. Not AS much as you suggest, but its there. Anyway i give a +1 to increase its weight.
Btw i could be the 8th in the fighters only flying the 109 G-6 in April. Everythings possible.
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I read the title and the first thing I thought was it would show how many 2v1's 3v1's 4v1's etc. That person has won and lost. Just my 2cents
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OMG. More people picking, HOing and vulching. Yep, that's just what we need.
I fly a XVI most often but not because I'm score obsessed. It's because I've always flown Spits. They are what drew me to these games 15 years ago. Since I'm generally a loner my XVI gives me confidence to jump into a 3, 4 or more on one in the MA's knowing I have a decent chance of getting out alive.
There's more to score than your name in lights and more to skill than the plane you fly.
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I think our current systems works well. Also flying a Spit16 or an La7 does not make you invincible, so I have no problem with people flying them (I actaully have more problems with K4s & D9s than Spit16s and La7s).
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Most score obsessed players only fly a limited number of very low risk vulching sorties in fighter mode. Nothing would change on their end.
It might however, encourage other players to try those rides when they see: SYSTEM: SkOrEdUDe landed four kills in a C.202 of LOOK at ME!
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I fly a XVI most often but not because I'm score obsessed. It's because I've always flown Spits. They are what drew me to these games 15 years ago. Since I'm generally a loner my XVI gives me confidence to jump into a 3, 4 or more on one in the MA's knowing I have a decent chance of getting out alive.
Thats the point. In a spit16 you have a decent chance against 3-4 p38s, la5s, 109Gs etc etc.
Btw IMO this thingy would result less p51s, spit16s, run-90s etc, summa summarum more mid-war-early war birds, less pick n run, more turn n burn. Its more fun to turn than to run straight, but its only me.
Sure the eny5 warriors dont like it : )
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Cool replies. Thanks!
I always learn a lot preposing my crazy ideas. :lol
first thing I thought was it would show how many 2v1's 3v1's 4v1's
That would be interesting. +1
because I've always flown Spits. They are what drew me to these games 15 years ago.
So fly a Spit V ;-) I hear your point though.
Again, this idea is coming from someone that does not closely follow score. I did not know it was already factored in (thx). I do look at kill ratio stats as a tool to gauge how effective some techniques that I do are etc.
BTW, if\when I get my name in lights it is usually by error. Just got lucky. I've been flying 109g2 lately and more than happy landing just one kill or even just making it back to base alive. :lol
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Hello,
With respect to scores, perhaps shooting down a Spit16 in a C202 (or A6M2, BF109e etc.) should amount to more than an LA7 shooting one down as it applies to scores? A lot more. Proportional. Of course there are perks for such a sortie (different topic).
Skill is already somewhat factored into the scores. For example, if you fly a C.205 and engage a P-51D and win, you get more points for that kill as opposed to flying a P-51D and shooting down a C.205.
Honestly, I see this wish less about wanting "quality fights" and more about getting people to fly the planes you want them to fly for whatever reasons you may have. People should be less concerned with what others fly and instead spend time on improving their flying and then what someone else flies will no longer bothersome.
ack-ack
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Skill is already somewhat factored into the scores. For example, if you fly a C.205 and engage a P-51D and win, you get more points for that kill as opposed to flying a P-51D and shooting down a C.205.
This is not factored into the scores at all. You get more perks, but for score & rank it does not matter what if you make a kill in a P-40B or a Tempest.
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This is not factored into the scores at all. You get more perks, but for score & rank it does not matter what if you make a kill in a P-40B or a Tempest.
Bingo.
That was my hunch too but some are suggesting here that it is. I did not mention the word "rank" but I meant too. One and the same in this context.
I was just pondering this and wondering if it was factored in proportionately. I don't need nor necessarily want my name in lights. I love that fact this game exists in the quality that it does! THAT is good enough for me.
One of those scratching your head moments...I wonder if the plane is factored into the formula for rank etc.
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109 are easy mode same as spit if you know tricks!
:devil
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+1 for this, it would bring new goals to long time players.
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This is not factored into the scores at all. You get more perks, but for score & rank it does not matter what if you make a kill in a P-40B or a Tempest.
Hmm, this example makes me think of "perk redistribution" :aok
Let me splain :D the Tempest driver paid 40 points for it, the victorious P40B should recieve the 40 points as soon as the Tempest is dead! : IN FACT all perks should be treated this way :devil "lose a jet to a jet" the winner recieves the losers "perks paid" for his lost jet :D
OMG imagine the pain :rock
JUGgler
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Hmm, this example makes me think of "perk redistribution" :aok
Let me splain :D the Tempest driver paid 40 points for it, the victorious P40B should recieve the 40 points as soon as the Tempest is dead! : IN FACT all perks should be treated this way :devil "lose a jet to a jet" the winner recieves the losers "perks paid" for his lost jet :D
OMG imagine the pain :rock
JUGgler
I'll go for this. winner takes whatever perks you paid for your plane. but since most of the plane set has no perks then you will get nothing unless you kill perked planes. sounds like a fair trade :devil
second option is have the perks tied to the killed plane ranking. the lower the ranking the more perks you would get. so If you were to kill let's say bruv or shawk then you will get a zillion perks, if on the other hand you kill some guy that is on his first week of ah, then you will get close to nothing. it might encourage more 1v1 since most highly ranked hardly up a capped field to get vulched over and over.
semp
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I always wanted it to make a diffence too. Ya you got more perks, but it did nothing for the score.
In a slow plane you usually end up outnumbered and fighting for your life. Lets say it was a 3 on 1 and you killed all 3 while in a P40. Score-wise its less impressive than killing 5 enemy by picking,flying 5 re-arm flights of 1 kill per sortie. Probably too much to ask for the game to handle.
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Hmm, this example makes me think of "perk redistribution" :aok
Let me splain :D the Tempest driver paid 40 points for it, the victorious P40B should recieve the 40 points as soon as the Tempest is dead! : IN FACT all perks should be treated this way :devil "lose a jet to a jet" the winner recieves the losers "perks paid" for his lost jet :D
OMG imagine the pain :rock
JUGgler
-1 You get enough tards wanting to shoot you at all costs when flying a perk ride.
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The only reason I like scores is to earn enough perks to faceplant a Me-262 about once a month. It happens like clockwork. Crap!
Boo
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-1 You get enough tards wanting to shoot you at all costs when flying a perk ride.
Seems like a fair trade for the number of tards FLYING perked rides! :aok
I fly the jet quite often and I expect EVERYONE to do all manner of nefarious things to shoot me down.
Perked rides have a huge sign on them that says " shoot me down in any manner possible and make yourself feel better than me" :rock
JUGgler
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I fly the Mossie 6 more than most other attack planes... I'm impressed any time I kill any thing. :cool:
I'm on the fence with this wish... The good sticks in the game don't fly as many low ENY birds as you might think. Even Bruv gets out of the Spitty and kills people in the Wildcat.