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Title: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: expat on July 04, 2011, 09:18:52 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaantoine/5894891635/in/set-72157627100683798/

Very nice looking Seafire  belly landed , the wheels wouldnt come down , the pilot walked away ok , and the aircraft doesnt look too badly damaged .
Found this on the WIX forum .
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: Slash27 on July 04, 2011, 09:48:35 AM
Wow, snapped the damn props right off. I would bet she flies again.
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Post by: Tyrannis on July 04, 2011, 09:51:58 AM
is that a griffon engine?
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Post by: flight17 on July 04, 2011, 06:46:15 PM
Does the prop not feather on the Spit? hope the shaft isnt bent.
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Post by: MiloMorai on July 04, 2011, 08:37:34 PM
is that a griffon engine?

Griffon Spitfires had 5 blade or contra blade props.

The a/c is Seafire F. XVII.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: expat on July 04, 2011, 09:56:04 PM
It is  Griffon powered, Two speed single stage supercharged Griffon VI and 26
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: OOZ662 on July 04, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
Personally, I don't think I'd have the guts to leave the cockpit open during that. :D
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Post by: mthrockmor on July 04, 2011, 11:21:58 PM
That rudder looks bigger then an F4Us.

Boo
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Post by: Stalwart on July 05, 2011, 12:30:40 AM
She sure was pretty.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: expat on July 05, 2011, 12:34:04 AM
''Personally, I don't think I'd have the guts to leave the cockpit open during that''
I'd rather it was open , imagine the canopy jamming then the plane catches fire .....
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: Vudu15 on July 05, 2011, 04:05:56 AM
Personally, I don't think I'd have the guts to leave the cockpit open during that. :D

emergency procedure keep it open so it dosent get jammed closed.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: Vudu15 on July 05, 2011, 04:08:07 AM
emergency procedure keep it open so it dosent get jammed closed.

edit:guess I shoulda went to the end. We as crew chiefs have to keep our windows during roll on landings.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: OOZ662 on July 05, 2011, 04:26:35 AM
''Personally, I don't think I'd have the guts to leave the cockpit open during that''
I'd rather it was open , imagine the canopy jamming then the plane catches fire .....

emergency procedure keep it open so it dosent get jammed closed.

I dunno, prop blades and flying earth hitting me in the head sound about equally as fun.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: dhyran on July 05, 2011, 04:42:59 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaantoine/5894891635/in/set-72157627100683798/

Very nice looking Seafire  belly landed , the wheels wouldnt come down , the pilot walked away ok , and the aircraft doesnt look too badly damaged .
Found this on the WIX forum .

oh nooooooo, damn, one nice warbird less
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Post by: Pigslilspaz on July 05, 2011, 04:59:59 AM
I have a good feeling she'll be flying again.
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Post by: GNucks on July 05, 2011, 05:07:07 AM
Geez, it even looks good lawndarted

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5238/5895465460_05d136de16.jpg)
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Post by: MarineUS on July 05, 2011, 05:14:21 AM
He did a great job. She'll definitely be flown again.
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Post by: manurin on July 05, 2011, 06:18:57 AM
Looks like it's a woman who was at the controls, if you watch closely the last pictures.

That's correct:

Pilot Anna Walker had to belly-land the Seafire SX336 at Bondues in France on July 1st, at 5:30 PM local time. For an unknown reason, the gear did not extend. The aircraft landed on its belly and did a 180° turn before coming to rest. Fortunately, Anna Walker was not injured. It seems the aircraft suffered relatively light damage only.
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Post by: Vudu15 on July 05, 2011, 08:45:57 AM
rather a blade get me quick then the fire gettin me slowly. but that is just me. :uhoh
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Post by: Rino on July 05, 2011, 10:04:13 AM
Wow, snapped the damn props right off. I would bet she flies again.

      Actually that is not a good sign.  The engine will have to be inspected for sudden stoppage and that is the
pricey part of that bird.  Hopefully it is worth restoring and I'm very glad the pilot is ok.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: expat on July 05, 2011, 11:05:04 AM
Hopefully the engine isnt too badly damaged , shockloaded is that the term ? forgive me i am as technical as a pair of flip flops :)
The blades were wooden so i'd imagine they would snap quicker than metal blades , would that lessen the damage to the engine ?
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Post by: Maverick on July 05, 2011, 12:33:58 PM
Wow, snapped the damn props right off. I would bet she flies again.

I believe it had wooden prop blades, easier on the engine if it has to belly in like that. I'd bet it still requires a full teardown and overhaul anyhow.

That is a repairable bird, with enough money anyhow.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: saggs on July 05, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
Does the prop not feather on the Spit? hope the shaft isnt bent.

I'm not aware of any single engine recip that has a feathering prop.


That IS a very pretty plane.  I'd guess that whoever has the money to maintain and regularly fly such a beauty, has the money to repair it.   Even if they don't somebody else would snatch it up and restore it, that airframe is in to good a shape not to fly again.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: Golfer on July 05, 2011, 02:20:59 PM
There's no way to tell from looking at a picture how many hours were on the engine, it's condition prior to the accident or when it was next due for overhaul.  You don't get much time out of the the motors for warbirds such as that (think 200-400 hours) so the engine requiring replacement while expensive to the layman is just part of operating the airplane.  The engine needing inspection or rebuild won't put this airplane on a stick.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: Golfer on July 05, 2011, 02:26:53 PM
I'm not aware of any single engine recip that has a feathering prop.


(http://www.lightsportaircraft.ca/eaa_airventure2005/images/adjustable-prop.jpg)

Motor Gliders have them.  ;)

http://youtu.be/BaGXilbKL5c?t=2m18s
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: flight17 on July 05, 2011, 09:55:32 PM
I'm not aware of any single engine recip that has a feathering prop.


That IS a very pretty plane.  I'd guess that whoever has the money to maintain and regularly fly such a beauty, has the money to repair it.   Even if they don't somebody else would snatch it up and restore it, that airframe is in to good a shape not to fly again.
you might be right... i was thinking the f4u or p-51 feather from what was said on the videos that were posted back during winter of the testing of the aircraft, but now that i think about it, it might have been said on the p-38's video.
Title: Re: Seafire belly landing ,, pilot ok
Post by: saggs on July 06, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
(http://www.lightsportaircraft.ca/eaa_airventure2005/images/adjustable-prop.jpg)

Motor Gliders have them.  ;)

http://youtu.be/BaGXilbKL5c?t=2m18s

Well, I knew if I was wrong someone would correct me.  :aok