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Title: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: DeadStik on July 04, 2011, 11:43:37 AM
Could somebody please explain to me what "Factories have retreated to the rear" means? I've never been able to get a straight answer and it seems most people speculate instead of giving fact.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: Jayhawk on July 04, 2011, 11:57:36 AM
Factories refer to the city strat complexes.  Each country has one, but they are located in one of two places.  When a new map starts, they will all be towards the center of the countries bases, closer to the front lines.  If your country starts loosing bases, the city strat will move to a safe location towards the rear of the map.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: DeadStik on July 04, 2011, 12:39:16 PM
So the factories physically change location when this occurs?
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: The Fugitive on July 04, 2011, 12:41:42 PM
yes. It helps cut down on the enemy capturing a base right next to the factories and make short runs all night keeping them porked.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: The Fugitive on July 04, 2011, 12:44:04 PM
So the factories physically change location when this occurs?

yes. It helps cut down on the enemy capturing a base right next to the factories and make short runs all night keeping them porked.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: The Fugitive on July 04, 2011, 12:48:52 PM
So the factories physically change location when this occurs?

yes. It helps cut down on the enemy capturing a base right next to the factories and make short runs all night keeping them porked.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: DeadStik on July 04, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
Understood. Thank you for the informative answer!
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: Jayhawk on July 04, 2011, 01:13:16 PM
In a heartbeat.  One minute it's a sprawling cityscape, the next it's a barren field with a river running through it. 

There was a huge mission up once (I thinks swoops was leading it) to attack strat.  They were over target and many had already dropped their ords.  At the same time, the nits captured one of the bish bases, forcing the factories to the rear before a bomb even hit.  :rofl
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: AAJagerX on July 05, 2011, 04:24:18 PM
In a heartbeat.  One minute it's a sprawling cityscape, the next it's a barren field with a river running through it.  

There was a huge mission up once (I thinks swoops was leading it) to attack strat.  They were over target and many had already dropped their ords.  At the same time, the nits captured one of the bish bases, forcing the factories to the rear before a bomb even hit.  :rofl

Yeah, THAT was hilarious!   :rofl
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: M0nkey_Man on July 05, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
In a heartbeat.  One minute it's a sprawling cityscape, the next it's a barren field with a river running through it. 

There was a huge mission up once (I thinks swoops was leading it) to attack strat.  They were over target and many had already dropped their ords.  At the same time, the nits captured one of the bish bases, forcing the factories to the rear before a bomb even hit.  :rofl
:rofl
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: Agent360 on July 06, 2011, 02:14:53 AM
does this effect the the resupply times of the front line bases?

I thought that when the factory retreats it make longer resupply time on the front line.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: ImADot on July 06, 2011, 08:22:54 AM
does this effect the the resupply times of the front line bases?

I thought that when the factory retreats it make longer resupply time on the front line.


I highly doubt it.  The bases are supplied by fixed-length roads.  I believe the only factor that affects resupply time is how damaged the corresponding strat factory is for the supply type needed (ammo, troops, radar, etc.).
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: Rob52240 on July 06, 2011, 08:26:47 AM
I was once in a large strat bomber mission.  While we were lining up on them about 10 miles out our countrymen captured a field or two and they retreated to the rear.  We were pretty upset at fate for that.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: Condor11 on July 07, 2011, 01:03:42 AM
What would b the benefit of say, actually forming one of our famous bish horde missions, specifically targeting a nations factories. And what kind of numbers would it require?

I ask mainly to see if it might b done some rare time....i remember a ghi mission with something like 40 sets of b26s, it was epic as all hell. 163 screaming through, fighters of allllll make, tracers in ever view.

Just wondering if it be productive, as well as obviously epic, to get several sets of 17s or other medium/heavy bombers n target all of a nations factories on a single mission.

 Sorry, noobish I know, but I love the mass bomber missions, n am curious about the mother of them all.

so what would it take to do, and is there any other reason than fun factor that could justify such a massive mission (as if u needed more ;) )

Ty in advance,
Condor
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: Rob52240 on July 07, 2011, 01:20:52 AM
you need a lot in the arena for it to happen.  Go for it.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: LThunderpocket on July 07, 2011, 01:50:29 AM
What would b the benefit of say, actually forming one of our famous bish horde missions, specifically targeting a nations factories. And what kind of numbers would it require?

I ask mainly to see if it might b done some rare time....i remember a ghi mission with something like 40 sets of b26s, it was epic as all hell. 163 screaming through, fighters of allllll make, tracers in ever view.

Just wondering if it be productive, as well as obviously epic, to get several sets of 17s or other medium/heavy bombers n target all of a nations factories on a single mission.

 Sorry, noobish I know, but I love the mass bomber missions, n am curious about the mother of them all.

so what would it take to do, and is there any other reason than fun factor that could justify such a massive mission (as if u needed more ;) )

Ty in advance,
Condor

swoops used to do that on Titanic Tues.big formation of 29s would takeoff and in 1 trip go to both enemy strats.you should have heard the radio when we had all let our bombs out and then the factories retreated due to a base being taken.

you could try posting a mission and giving it 2 hours til launch to get people interested,thats what swoops did.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: DeadStik on July 07, 2011, 12:09:52 PM
So ideally it would go like this "The (Country)'s factories will retreat to the rear in 3 minutes."
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: Condor11 on July 07, 2011, 12:20:16 PM
Haha I remember the mass 29 runs, but I figure since everyday is titanic, there might be an advantage of running one every map reset or so.

And comeone wntr :p, I'm not well known enough to get bish joiners. At best I only lead mission elements when chewie or my squaddies post.....i was more thinking id bother chewie to do it  :D

But like I asked, whats the advantage of dropping the factories,  I mean drop all at once 100%. (in my head I see mass b17 raids like in ww2)

s :airplane:
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: grizz441 on July 07, 2011, 12:23:20 PM
As soon as the line approaches the distance in which attacking them is becoming a feasibility, they retreat, making them worthless.
Title: Re: Factories retreat to rear
Post by: LThunderpocket on July 07, 2011, 03:27:23 PM
Haha I remember the mass 29 runs, but I figure since everyday is titanic, there might be an advantage of running one every map reset or so.

And comeone wntr :p, I'm not well known enough to get bish joiners. At best I only lead mission elements when chewie or my squaddies post.....i was more thinking id bother chewie to do it  :D

But like I asked, whats the advantage of dropping the factories,  I mean drop all at once 100%. (in my head I see mass b17 raids like in ww2)

s :airplane:

i think the current strat system is the more % the factory is down,the longer time it takes for a base to resupplied.say you bring down ord factory to 25%,i think it would take a base that has ords down 1:30 for them to pop.i think im wrong on the time though.now thats assuming it stays at 25%.witch means you need to bring the city down pretty much all the way.the only strategic thing about the strats are....

kill the city-kill a factory.killing the city just makes the factory stay down longer.witch in turn makes say a fuel tank or ord bunker stay down longer at a base.so to be "strategic" you kill the city all the way and then kill a factory.the rest of it is just so what,you can re supply it.thats why theres no point to the strats