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Title: Sailing Trip
Post by: Penguin on July 05, 2011, 06:20:04 PM
Hey guys,

I'll be off on a sailing trip for at least a week in a short while.  For those of you who hate me, it will be a great vacation from my posts.  However, this is the first time that I've ever gone on a sailing trip, and I would like to know a few things:

How cold does it get?
How can I stay hydrated?
What kind of gloves will I need?

Also, any yarns from you old sea dogs would be greatly appreciated.  There's some truth in even the tallest tale.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Golfer on July 05, 2011, 06:30:34 PM
Good call asking this on a cartoon airplane game off topic discussion section.

I'm also pretty impressed you've realized that where you're going sailing has no bearing whatsoever on the gear you're going to be taking so excluding that information would just waste time.  Penny loafers, Bermuda shorts, Hawaiian shirts, Ray Ban sunglasses, Panama Jack hat and Coppertone 45.  You're squared away from St. Barths in the Caribbean to St. Paul in the Bering Sea.
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Penguin on July 05, 2011, 07:29:43 PM
I will be sailing from Connecticut to Boston.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Maverick on July 05, 2011, 09:08:44 PM
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In all seriousness, you are going to need to think in layers. Have at least a couple windbreakers that could double as a light rain coat. Figure that it could be chilly, cold or hot, hence layers. A couple sweaters (wool is best) and a couple pairs of pants as well as a pair of shorts. Figure on light tennis shoes and or some kind of deck shoes. You will want something that can handle getting soaked and rinsed off. A second pair means you can let one pair dry while wearing the other. Depending on what kind of sailboat you will be on it could get downright wet. Don't forget some kind of a hat and dark glasses. Make sure you have a cord for the glasses unless you don't mind losing them.

Look at the weather for the area very closely. Check for temperature extremes and probability of rain. Use the NOAH site and at least one other. I like www.wunderground.com as they have good weather maps.
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: MaSonZ on July 05, 2011, 09:14:51 PM
ive never been sailing...or stepped on a boat for the matter, unless the ferry to the Statue of Liberty counts... but what you wear depends what you will be doing too im sure. Conneticut to Boston, prepare for the worse, pray the best. its MA... if your gonna be deckhand stuff i would probably say waterproof boots to be safe.

as i said, ive never been sailing, just my .02. have fun!
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: B4Buster on July 05, 2011, 09:22:52 PM
Don't worry about bringing water. You can just drink your piss to stay hydrated. Bear Grylls does it all the time.


Even this time of year in New England, the sea breeze can be chilly at night. A few sweatshirts and a fleece blanket should do you over, though.
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: colmbo on July 06, 2011, 12:45:05 AM

How cold does it get?

Colder than you can ever dress for if you have the mid night watch.


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How can I stay hydrated?

Drink water.


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What kind of gloves will I need?

Wind/water proof.

What kind of boat?  Are you crew or just along for the ride?
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: EskimoJoe on July 06, 2011, 04:23:55 AM
Typically I would pitch in the useful advice being 'do not drown'.

In this case however...
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Masherbrum on July 06, 2011, 06:40:09 AM
I blame global warming.
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Nefarious on July 06, 2011, 06:51:15 AM
I blame global warming.

I blame you.  ;)
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Penguin on July 06, 2011, 08:15:17 AM
Colder than you can ever dress for if you have the mid night watch.


Drink water.


Wind/water proof.

What kind of boat?  Are you crew or just along for the ride?

I'm going in as a deckhand, and it should be a medium to large sized vessel (not a tallship, but close).

-Penguin
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: 007Rusty on July 06, 2011, 08:24:16 AM
whats the name of the boat???

I'm going in as a deckhand, and it should be a medium to large sized vessel (not a tallship, but close).

-Penguin
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: MiloMorai on July 06, 2011, 08:49:15 AM
Why not ask the people on the boat.
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: MaSonZ on July 06, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
Why not ask the people on the boat.
doesnt want to make enemies knowing how easy it would be to dispose of a body at sea



 :noid
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: caldera on July 06, 2011, 09:51:14 AM
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Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: 007Rusty on July 06, 2011, 09:52:25 AM
                       :rofl :rofl   :aok

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Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Babalonian on July 06, 2011, 03:02:02 PM
Hey guys,

I'll be off on a sailing trip for at least a week in a short while.  For those of you who hate me, it will be a great vacation from my posts.  However, this is the first time that I've ever gone on a sailing trip, and I would like to know a few things:

How cold does it get?
Weather can change quite quickly, but the temperatures don't vary too much due to the water you're on.  Have a jacket/coat that is wind and water proof/heavily-resistant.  If you're sailing in cool waters, you'll likely want something that will also offer warmth, otherwise concentrate on water and wind proofing primarily.
How can I stay hydrated?
When sailing, in the sun and in some warmth, at least a gallon a day, and two wouldn't hurt.  Have a canteen you always have around with you and a large jug/gallon of water that you refill and drink entirely at least daily.  Being that active and in that environment, even though you're surrounded by water, you'll need to drink tons.  And yellow pee is unhealthy pee, and a very easy guage to tell if you're drinking enough or not.  The lighter colored and more clear-water like it is in color, the better you're doing at keeping your body hydrated.  Most people have to take a leak when they wake up in the morning, so it's a convenient and acurate way of guaging how much you need to work on your water intake at the start of your day and before it gets too hot.
What kind of gloves will I need?
This is a 6 or half-dozen debate, it's all up to personal preference IMHO.  I have yet to find a glove made of a material that the ocean won't quickly disintigrate.  When I was younger and did sailing we'd wrap our hands (if at all) mostly over in tape as it allowed us to slide ropes quickly through our palms and wouldn't over-burden your fingers, leaving them free and nimble to do all the knotwork (which gloves of almost anytype really hampen).  If I had to bring some working gloves though, then my choice is usualy calf skin, it's a great balance in my opinion as it's got the best balance of durability and toughness for the thinnest and most compforitable material.

Also, any yarns from you old sea dogs would be greatly appreciated.  There's some truth in even the tallest tale.

-Penguin

Learn to tie a _good_ one-handed boiline, not only is it good for showing off during show n' tells, but will come in extremely handy on the fly.
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 06, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl that just made my day!



I'm still begging my family to take a family boat trip on Lake Lanier but seeing as how no one in my family has been on anything except a cruise ship, they aren't looking to fondly upon it. Next plan is taking some friends kayaking in Athens  :uhoh
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 06, 2011, 03:58:52 PM
Triple post my bad
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 06, 2011, 04:13:20 PM
triple post my bad
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: EskimoJoe on July 06, 2011, 04:21:30 PM
What was that? I didn't hear you the first three times.
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: SlapShot on July 06, 2011, 04:22:16 PM
ive never been sailing...or stepped on a boat for the matter, unless the ferry to the Statue of Liberty counts

Yes ... the ferry to the Statue of Liberty would be considered a "boat".
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Penguin on July 06, 2011, 04:39:54 PM
Learn to tie a _good_ one-handed boiline, not only is it good for showing off during show n' tells, but will come in extremely handy on the fly.

Is it a square knot that is tied around oneself?

-Penguin
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: F22RaptorDude on July 06, 2011, 04:40:12 PM
What was that? I didn't hear you the first three times.
My computer is old, give me a break
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Dragon on July 06, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
Is it a square knot that is tied around oneself?

-Penguin

That sounds more like a messed up noose, oh, you might want to study how to undo one of those quickly too.



Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Penguin on July 06, 2011, 05:03:24 PM
No, it's intended for water rescue.  If one falls overboard and is thrown a rope, this knot allows one to hold onto the rope with one hand and tie a very secure knot with the other.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Babalonian on July 06, 2011, 05:05:03 PM
Is it a square knot that is tied around oneself?

-Penguin

Nope, it's closest to a sheep bend, except with one piece of rope (rather than joining together two seperate ropes, as with a sheep bend) to form a loop on the end.  You'll find it is used, or variations of it (ie: double(hitched) bowline), quite often in safety and rescue trades, and of cource maritime/sailing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline


Here's a real simple clip on how to do a one-handed basic, and it's best/easiest to learn by tyeing it around yourself as is shown in the video, but after a little practise you can tie it around other things/people without much effort.

http://www.ehow.com/video_4411911_tie-one-handed-bowline-knot.html


Now if you're a good boy, in a couple years (when you're old enough) I'll teach ya the handcuffing rope trick, always a fun one to pull on the girlfriend.
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Penguin on July 06, 2011, 05:12:54 PM
Yes, I know how to do that.  It's the first knot I learned after the square knot.  In Poland, it's called: wezel ratownicy (rescue knot).  Forgive me, but I've learned everything that I have about yachting in Poland, so some of the vocabulary will be different.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Babalonian on July 06, 2011, 05:32:26 PM
No, it's intended for water rescue.  If one falls overboard and is thrown a rope, this knot allows one to hold onto the rope with one hand and tie a very secure knot with the other.

-Penguin

That's one benefit to the one-handed bowline, also once you do it 2-3 times, you'll realise it is one of the fastest and reliabley holding knots to tie, period.  


Yes, I know how to do that.  It's the first knot I learned after the square knot.  In Poland, it's called: wezel ratownicy (rescue knot).  Forgive me, but I've learned everything that I have about yachting in Poland, so some of the vocabulary will be different.

-Penguin

It also goes by "rescue knot" in english and "the king of knots" or simply "the king", or on most the boats I sailed on, it was simply "the knot", but ya got to be careful there because most knots used by professional search and rescue personel here go by that term of rescue knot and are variations of the bowline (LA City and County fire used to teach the double bowline as their standard "rescue knot" for example, and that made tying the standard bowline a bit of a training no-no). 

And best start calling your square knots as reef knots offshore unless you want to be mistaken as a land lover on your first day. :D

Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Penguin on July 06, 2011, 05:56:33 PM
Shiver me timbers cap'n, the very thought of 'em words makes me quake in me boots!  :D

-Penguin
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: MiloMorai on July 06, 2011, 07:59:59 PM
How many knots was that reef doing? :devil
Title: Re: Sailing Trip
Post by: Penguin on July 06, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
Reefer ties me in knots.

-Penguin

PS Just kidding, I don't do drugs