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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tupac on July 12, 2011, 06:09:18 PM
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http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/
I like this idea, especially for an upscale restaurant.
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good use of the "right to refuse service law" more times than not my dinner has been wrecked by them creatures.
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I wouldnt say it happens that often to me, but nothing is worse than that high-pitched scream of a kid thats not getting what they want. It gives me a headache VERY quickly
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.....and jack wagons on their cell phones are worse than screaming kids.
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I have a two year old and if I can take him he will act like a two year old (the most well behaved lil guy in the whole world! Not that I am bias :t). I would rather be told an age limit esp. if it was a night out without the lil guy I may not want any little ones around. I wish they would make more "Mommy/Daddy" or "Cry Baby" matinees at theaters and allow kids to be kids there and then put an age limit on the other times! Our theater has times for toddlers at movies but, they also, let them in other movie times.
JMO :salute
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.....and jack wagons on their cell phones are worse than screaming kids.
only the ones that insist on talking overly loud.....'cause they think it makes them look important.
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It's actually proven that the scream of a young child not getting their way is the most distracting/annoying sound a person can hear in daily life. (Of sounds studied).
People were given math problems with various sounds: baby crying, phone ringing, young kid asking for a butt whoopin', etc, etc. The young child screaming came out as most distracting.
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Funny how some people get all butthurt over it.
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me being a business owner........it's my business, my rules. it may not be the smartest thing i'm choosing....but it's still my rules. :aok
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Good idea. They might lose some business, but they'll win back customers they lost because of wailing brats and all that goes with it. I once walked out of a restaurant before taking a seat at the table because a woman was openly breast feeding her baby - letting it all hang out right there at her table. I've also seen a diaper change in progress in a restaurant, within a few feet of the nearest table. Then there are those people who go for a night out but don't have a baby sitter, so they turn up at a restaurant around 9pm with a baby in a carry cot, then get upset because people are talking in the restaurant and that might wake the baby. Kids running around, climbing on the furniture etc... It's just not acceptable.
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well ah does have a rule that forbids players to act like 6 year olds.
semp
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Good idea. They might lose some business, but they'll win back customers they lost because of wailing brats and all that goes with it. I once walked out of a restaurant before taking a seat at the table because a woman was openly breast feeding her baby - letting it all hang out right there at her table.
It is state law in TX that a woman can breastfeed anywhere she likes. Seems pretty sensible to me. Some women are more private about that sort of thing than others, but it sure seems weird that something as natural and normal as feeding a baby has to be hidden away like there is something strange or horrible about it. Baby needs some food, feed the baby. Pretty normal sort of thing especially at a restaurant, I think.
If someone gets weirded out about my wife feeding our kid they can go somewhere else, especially in TX :) Fat people porking out on ribs and pecan pie makes me feel a bit ill, but I'm not going to tell them to go hide in a back room or leave a restaurant because of it. A baby being fed in a restaurant is a heck of a lot more normal than a 500 lb porker stuffing 30 pounds of all you can eat ribs down his or her pie-hole.
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It is state law in TX that a woman can breastfeed anywhere she likes. Seems pretty sensible to me. Some women are more private about that sort of thing than others, but it sure seems weird that something as natural and normal as feeding a baby has to be hidden away like there is something strange or horrible about it. Baby needs some food, feed the baby. Pretty normal sort of thing especially at a restaurant, I think.
If someone gets weirded out about my wife feeding our kid they can go somewhere else, especially in TX :) Fat people porking out on ribs and pecan pie makes me feel a bit ill, but I'm not going to tell them to go hide in a back room or leave a restaurant because of it. A baby being fed in a restaurant is a heck of a lot more normal than a 500 lb porker stuffing 30 pounds of all you can eat ribs down his or her pie-hole.
:old: I could not have said it any better. BTW, one can only see that breast if and only if they make it a point to look at it. Focus on your ribs :old:
Mmmmmm riiiiiiibs, I know what I am doing for lunch now :rofl
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http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/
I like this idea, especially for an upscale restaurant.
Hmm I wonder what happens when the first ethnic minority 5-year old wants to get in.
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Post removed for fear of Skuzzy
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Dat be profilin and it's raysist!
annnnnd BAZINNNNG!!!!!
thread lock imminent.
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only the ones that insist on talking overly loud.....'cause they think it makes them look important.
:D (Warning: Couple bad words)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtdpJlZ07u4
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Parents failing parenting should not weigh on the public.
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:D (Warning: Couple bad words)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtdpJlZ07u4
THAT was friggin hilarious.
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:D (Warning: Couple bad words)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtdpJlZ07u4
:rofl :aok
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Good idea. They might lose some business, but they'll win back customers they lost because of wailing brats and all that goes with it. I once walked out of a restaurant before taking a seat at the table because a woman was openly breast feeding her baby - letting it all hang out right there at her table. I've also seen a diaper change in progress in a restaurant, within a few feet of the nearest table. Then there are those people who go for a night out but don't have a baby sitter, so they turn up at a restaurant around 9pm with a baby in a carry cot, then get upset because people are talking in the restaurant and that might wake the baby. Kids running around, climbing on the furniture etc... It's just not acceptable.
Avoid LA, the wailing adults aren't any better.
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Hmm I wonder what happens when the first ethnic minority 5-year old wants to get in.
Give him minimum wage and point him to the back kitchen sink like everyone else? :D :bolt:
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It is state law in TX that a woman can breastfeed anywhere she likes. Seems pretty sensible to me. Some women are more private about that sort of thing than others, but it sure seems weird that something as natural and normal as feeding a baby has to be hidden away like there is something strange or horrible about it. Baby needs some food, feed the baby. Pretty normal sort of thing especially at a restaurant, I think.
Taking a leak or a dump is natural and normal. So according to your logic, there should be a WC right there in the restaurant so that diners can do either of these natural bodily functions in full view of the other diners. Thanks, but I think I'll dine somewhere else.
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Taking a leak or a dump is natural and normal. So according to your logic, there should be a WC right there in the restaurant so that diners can do either of these natural bodily functions in full view of the other diners. Thanks, but I think I'll dine somewhere else.
Not his logic at all.
You equate breast feeding a baby with feces and piss. Shame on you.
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No. Eagl states quite correctly that breast feeding a baby is normal and natural. I agree - but that does not mean I want to see it, just as I don't want to witness other bodily functions (urination, defecation), even though these are as normal and necessary as feeding babies.
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Are you ashamed of the female body?
They have restrooms to relieve yourself. You eat/feed in a restaurant.
He also states correctly that to see anything that would "offend" you, you would have to stare.
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Are you ashamed of the female body?
No, but I don't want to see breast feeding or diaper changing in a restaurant. That is my choice. If I DO happen to see activities such as this in progress, I would turn on my heel and leave.
So if a restaurant opens which bars children under 6, that's fine by me - I know I won't have to endure either of these activities.
It's not about what's natural/normal. It's about what people feel is fit and proper in the company of total strangers.
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You keep equating it to feces and urine.
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No, but I don't want to see breast feeding or diaper changing in a restaurant. That is my choice. If I DO happen to see activities such as this in progress, I would turn on my heel and leave.
So if a restaurant opens which bars children under 6, that's fine by me - I know I won't have to endure either of these activities.
It's not about what's natural/normal. It's about what people feel is fit and proper in the company of total strangers.
As always, if a point cannot be made people resort to ridicules extremes. Changing a diaper in a restaurant is something that I have never witnessed. I suggest you move to a different park if that is something you see a lot.
I have seen women breastfeeding in public (and I could probably count them with one hand). I have also seen that even though it does not seem to bother the general population, there is always one guy or girl that for some reason get upset about it. The lets say 20 or 30 of us that are not bothered by it say nothing, but the one that is bothered makes it a point that we know about it. So, to be clear, no one cars about what your religious or hypocritical standards and values are sir. If it bothers you, we don;t care to know about it. A baby eating is just natural. That is what they do lol. As for seeing a breast :O may I remind you that you can only see it if you look at it and if a baby is feeding you are really not seeing much of a breast.
So, when you say "It's about what people feel is fit and proper" remember you are only talking about yourself. :old:
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Breasteses don't smell.
Addendum: shouldn't smell.
:)
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Slightly off topic but, ever notice that the people in your neighborhood with badly behaved kids also own badly behaved dogs?
Guess it's more then slightly off topic... :bolt:
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You keep equating it to feces and urine.
No. It's about what people do/do not want to see - even if said activity is "normal and natural". In my view, breast feeding at the table is taking the "family restaurant" theme a stage too far.
As always, if a point cannot be made people resort to ridicules extremes. Changing a diaper in a restaurant is something that I have never witnessed. I suggest you move to a different park if that is something you see a lot.
I saw it once! I don't want to have to see it again. And if I ever did go to that same restaurant and saw that again, I would not go back.
I have seen women breastfeeding in public (and I could probably count them with one hand). I have also seen that even though it does not seem to bother the general population, there is always one guy or girl that for some reason get upset about it. The lets say 20 or 30 of us that are not bothered by it say nothing, but the one that is bothered makes it a point that we know about it. So, to be clear, no one cars about what your religious or hypocritical standards and values are sir. If it bothers you, we don;t care to know about it. A baby eating is just natural. That is what they do lol. As for seeing a breast :O may I remind you that you can only see it if you look at it and if a baby is feeding you are really not seeing much of a breast. So, when you say "It's about what people feel is fit and proper" remember you are only talking about yourself.
Well that's weird. I may be new to this board, but it seems odd that you repeatedly seem to be speaking for people besides yourself, eg "we don;t care to know about it" and "but the one that is bothered makes it a point that we know about it." and "So, to be clear, no one cars about what your religious or hypocritical standards and values are sir."
But when I express a point of view, you claim that I am only talking about myself.
What have my religious beliefs got to do with this?
Anyway, it doesn't matter. We have a balanced status quo. A state law in TX which guarantees mothers the freedom to breast feed wherever they want. And now, there is a restauranteur who understands that not everyone wants to see breast feeding and maybe many don't want to see young children at all. I wish him well with his new venture.
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Taking a leak or a dump is natural and normal. So according to your logic, there should be a WC right there in the restaurant so that diners can do either of these natural bodily functions in full view of the other diners. Thanks, but I think I'll dine somewhere else.
You're confusing the natural secreation of breast milk and hazardous waste, the two should not be considered on par, especialy in regards to a place that serves food. We don't let people take a leak or dump infront of your meal because you'll litteraly be in danger of getting ill-sick (or die if you have a weak immune system), and not simpley because it's insulting-sick or distractive.
Don't get me wrong, you have your right and I'm not argueing it, but overall I personaly don't mind the act and keep to myself anyways. And while in the middle of a crowded restraunt might not be the best for us, I'd rather they choose to do it there and then than being pigeonholed into having to do it by themselves in the middle of a parking lot (be it a nice bright day or dark stormy night) or public restrooms... there's a lot worse creeps out there than a couple distracted truckers drueling at the counter before they even order their meal.
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And now, there is a restauranteur who understands that not everyone wants to see breast feeding and maybe many don't want to see young children at all.
To be clear, I don't believe that was his intention with the new policy, he never voiced it as a reason and the issue at hand certainly seemed to be screaming children. We could argue all day about it, but the truth is it's becoming more common for women to feel comfortable to breast feed in public places and it's becoming policy for them to do so. You are going to be in a position to either avoid public because of it or learn to live with it.
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No. Eagl states quite correctly that breast feeding a baby is normal and natural. I agree - but that does not mean I want to see it, just as I don't want to witness other bodily functions (urination, defecation), even though these are as normal and necessary as feeding babies.
Yup in a restaurant we don't want to see others stuffing food in their mouths. No smoking, talking, fast movements. They should install cots to sleep on but then the snoring..... :lol
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You're confusing the natural secreation of breast milk and hazardous waste, the two should not be considered on par, especialy in regards to a place that serves food.
I'm not confusing anything! I'm perfectly clear on what I do not want to see in a restaurant.
To be clear, I don't believe that was his intention with the new policy, he never voiced it as a reason and the issue at hand certainly seemed to be screaming children. We could argue all day about it, but the truth is it's becoming more common for women to feel comfortable to breast feed in public places and it's becoming policy for them to do so. You are going to be in a position to either avoid public because of it or learn to live with it.
I think what you describe is symptomatic of a general decline in standards of acceptable behavior in our society. There was a time when children were taught to behave, and standards of behavior were expected. That has all gone out of the window, and many children are now out of control.
So what was the reason for barring children under 6? Whatever the reason, it deals with a number of problems, not just breast feeding. It will also mean no diaper changing, and hopefully no messy aftermath of food crumbs etc. when a group of young mothers have been in and used the place as a creche. You might think that's acceptable, and maybe it is to you and some others. But others don't want to have to deal with young children, the screaming and wailing, the climbing on the furniture, the food mess all over the floor that they leave behind.
If a new restaurant opens that bars children under 6, it follows that the owner has done his market research and has determined that there is a demand for such a place. If not, it would not be opening in the first place.
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Slightly off topic but, ever notice that the people in your neighborhood with badly behaved kids also own badly behaved dogs?
Guess it's more then slightly off topic... :bolt:
if you wanna take that a step farther.....while those same parents may appear squeaky clean, cool and groovy on the surface....dig a little, and you'll find out that they are just like their kids.
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I think what you describe is symptomatic of a general decline in standards of acceptable behavior in our society. There was a time when children were taught to behave, and standards of behavior were expected. That has all gone out of the window, and many children are now out of control.
You're right, back in the day, babies didn't cry.
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You're right, back in the day, babies didn't cry.
Correct. They didn't cry in restaurants because they would not be in one. Their needs would be met at home, which is as it should be.
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You're right, back in the day, babies didn't cry.
Back in the day, I doubt you took your year old child to dinner with you.
And breast fed it at the table, too.
Back in the day, your five year old wouldn't scream at the top of its lungs
when it didn't get what it wanted, wouldn't throw its food or a temper
tantrum for fear of getting the belt, as well as respect and perhaps an
ounce of understanding of cause and effect compared to kids today.
He's right. Back in the day babies didn't cry.
*14 seconds behind Pirhana. Maybe I should have knuckles my fingers beforehand.
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Texting during movies?
Alamo Drafthouse. Austin Texas. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVz-fO7kxcQ)
BTW, you see something like THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whiTXqdGUvI) before every show.
wrongway
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I find it funny, people think it's ok to see their gf's wife's breast exposed for all to see as long as she's feeding a child, but remove the child and it's called girls gone wild.
my wife breastfed three kids, not once we were surprised with a hungry child while eating at a restaurant.
semp
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You're right, back in the day, babies didn't cry.
back in the day(for me, that's mid/late 60's into the 70's), it was a treat if our grand parents took my brother and myself to a diner, or restaurant. because of this, we dam well better have behaved, or we'd not be going again for a bit.
that being said, my grand mom, almost always cooked dinner for all of us(all of us being herself, my grand pop, my mom, my brother, and myself.) when she did cook, we dam well better have been to the table when she called. we didn't get up, till we finished our food. no leaving half of it.
i see the way some parents are with their kids....they don't take the time to even just cook something as simple as spaghetti for them. it makes me look back, and appreciate my grand parents that much more, and at the same time, pity the kids that don't get that from parents that are perfectly capable of doing so.
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Anyone have the number to call for reservations?
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You're right, back in the day, babies didn't cry.
Apparently they didn't need to be fed either :lol
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Most of the time don't women throw a blanket over there shoulder covering the baby? Whats the big deal looking at a blanket over a womans shoulder?
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Apparently they didn't need to be fed either :lol
sure they did. the difference being that their parents did this funny thing. it's called cooking.
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lol at the Alamo Drafthouse vid. The guy paid his money to watch a movie... if he was texting, he can do that outside for free.
He wasn't watching the movie after all. :)
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sure they did. the difference being that their parents did this funny thing. it's called cooking.
Do you remember what this all was about? Are you saying that parents are choosing to breastfeed their children because they are too lazy to cook for them? :headscratch:
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Do you remember what this all was about? Are you saying that parents are choosing to breastfeed their children because they are too lazy to cook for them? :headscratch:
actually, i thought it was about the restaurant owners right to refuse service......then i thought it went on to taking kids to the restaurant. i don't think a 5 or 6 year old is gonna be breast feeding.
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actually, i thought it was about the restaurant owners right to refuse service......then i thought it went on to taking kids to the restaurant. i don't think a 5 or 6 year old is gonna be breast feeding.
I guess I thought eagl was referring to the breast-feeding discussion, maybe I misunderstood him.
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I guess I thought eagl was referring to the breast-feeding discussion, maybe I misunderstood him.
could be that i misread it too......i do a lot of replies from work here, tabbing between 3 or 4 windows, while i work.
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could be that i misread it too......i do a lot of replies from work here, tabbing between 3 or 4 windows, while i work.
Either way, I pulled out this smartarse answer about what we were talking about when I kind of forgot what the OP was actually about. :bolt:
Sorry about that, bad morning. :salute
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Either way, I pulled out this smartarse answer about what we were talking about when I kind of forgot what the OP was actually about. :bolt:
Sorry about that, bad morning. :salute
don't worry bout it dood!. you're ok. :aok :salute
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I have also seen that even though it does not seem to bother the general population, there is always one guy or girl that for some reason get upset about it. The lets say 20 or 30 of us that are not bothered by it say nothing, but the one that is bothered makes it a point that we know about it.
It's always the minorities that whine the most until they get their way. I say they should adapt or die.
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sure they did. the difference being that their parents did this funny thing. it's called cooking.
For a 6 month old infant?
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How this went from a noisy kids while eatting thread to the evolution of belly lint and all parts in between is beyond me :rolleyes: as far as a women breastfeeding her child in a public, who Care's, it's something that's been acceptable for years, My wife breastfed, not to much out in public because she knew when our sons feeding times there was times she did though and did it politely covered with a baby blanket seemed to me the only ones trying to look was the Pervs hoping for a look see or from the better than thou crowd who feels it's necessary to interfear with everyone's daily life's, you know those people that throw rocks in glass houses.
Back to the topic... yes the owners do and should have the right to either ask the Parents to control the screaming child if not then ask them to leave under the right to refuse service law.