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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Nr_RaVeN on July 13, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
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Its my understanding that HTC is working on a new H2H user run system.
My question is directed to the development team.
Will the new H2H system have a way for players to see what servers are available and what settings they are using As I'm sure your aware, Hyper lobby a popular server interface for several flight sims displays available servers and their settings.
HyperLobby flight sim online gaming system
http://hyperfighter.sk/index.php (http://hyperfighter.sk/index.php)
See animation:
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/hyper-lobby-gif.gif)
Sims available on Hyperloby:
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/hyper%20loby%203.jpg)
Available server list for il2, a very popular sim with European players. No icons are very popular with them as one can see the no icon server is the most populated. Considering the new deal with ice burg would be wise to make no icon servers VISABLE as well as make all H2H servers VISABLE?
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/hyperlobby%201.jpg)
Hyper lobby displays server settings when you drill down into a server. Is the H2H dev team working on something similar? :
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/hyperlobby%202.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/hyper%20settind%20850%20in%20game.jpg)
will HTC have something like this or will H2H servers be private and hidden from public view?
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such private driven server systems are the biggest drawback of other WW2 sims, imagine who all might run their own server, who will join and for what reasons :headscratch:
who would like to join such a server?
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii253/maddogjoe_photos/muppet_vs_thefew.jpg)
having again a H2H Lan option would be great
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such private driven server systems are the biggest drawback of other WW2 sims, imagine who all might run their own server, who will join and for what reasons :headscratch:
who would like to join such a server?
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii253/maddogjoe_photos/muppet_vs_thefew.jpg)
having again a H2H Lan option would be great
Im not sure I understand your reply,, are you saying you would like to see a list of availible H2H servers in public veiw?
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such private driven server systems are the biggest drawback of other WW2 sims, imagine who all might run their own server, who will join and for what reasons
:noid
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Hyperlobby is client/server query program. You can only see server details from inside Aces High. They do not broadcast these out to external sources that are "pinging" them.
Also... I have to say your agenda with the no icons is really overbearing at times. The select few that cannot live without harping on no-icons every other day came from IL2. Well, why aren't you still flying IL2?
Advertising servers with or without icons is in no way going to change sales or bring in more people. It's a non-issue and a personal agenda some of the AvA folks can't let go, IMO.
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I have to say your agenda with the no icons is really overbearing at times. The select few that cannot live without harping on no-icons every other day came from IL2. Well, why aren't you still flying IL2?
Advertising servers with or without icons is in no way going to change sales or bring in more people. It's a non-issue and a personal agenda some of the AvA folks can't let go, IMO.
Try to restrain yourself, the OP raises a valid question and it would be a shame to de-rail this thread with more icon vs no icon jibber jabber...there is already a thread on the front page if you really can't resist
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Hyperlobby is associated more with IL2 and Ubisoft games, the bastion of the no-icons movement. It has never, ever, ever, been associated with AH in any way in all the 10+ years of Aces High existence. Aces high has never worked the client/server route of pinging and retrieving details. Here out of the blue somebody starts trying to approach the matter as if promoting no-icon servers to the random users of HyperLobby would increase revenues? Right as the AvA is poised to turn icons back on as well. It's a heavy agenda and as subtle as a phone book dropping onto a coffee table.
I did restrain myself, but the issue is getting out of hand.
EDIT: Although sorry if my calling them out on it annoyed you as much as they annoy me.
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Hyperlobby is associated more with IL2 and Ubisoft games, the bastion of the no-icons movement. It has never, ever, ever, been associated with AH in any way in all the 10+ years of Aces High existence. Aces high has never worked the client/server route of pinging and retrieving details. Here out of the blue somebody starts trying to approach the matter as if promoting no-icon servers to the random users of HyperLobby would increase revenues? Right as the AvA is poised to turn icons back on as well. It's a heavy agenda and as subtle as a phone book dropping onto a coffee table.
I did restrain myself, but the issue is getting out of hand.
I guess you read more into his post than I did :) :noid
It seems like a simple query asking if the new H2H system will have a way for players to see what servers are available and what settings they are using (as exemplified by programs such as Hyperlobby)
edit: even completely disregarding the issue of icons on/off, I'd still hope to see something like this when the new H2H system goes live
I suppose I need to learn to read between the lines more
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No, not so simple a query... Some folks from the AvA are pouting and saying they're cancelling their accounts and putting all their no-icons hope into the new HTH.
It would be one thing to request a larger name field so that you can better describe the room your in. Regardless of what those setting were.... Instead they go roundabout and circle the issue and make claims like "promoting no-icons will boost your customers" etc...
Don't really need to read between the lines. Oh well my work here is done.
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With a retail box version coming out I hope the H2H comes with it.
I am part of the "heavy no icon agenda" and H2H is part of the overall master plan to pry $15 each month out of my own pocket. I'll gladly pay $15 a month to run my own no icon server and give Krusty's life meaning and purpose.
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What the hell is it to you whether some H2H arenas with no icons get promoted?
You have already stated there is a market for such a thing that could possibly bring other players over from IL2/hyperlobby.
You had a point of not wanting particular settings forced onto the only AvA type arena available.
So what's the problem now? You just can't stand the thought that others might have an option you don't like?
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What the hell is it to you whether some H2H arenas with no icons get promoted?
You have already stated there is a market for such a thing that could possibly bring other players over from IL2/hyperlobby.
You had a point of not wanting particular settings forced onto the only AvA type arena available.
So what's the problem now? You just can't stand the thought that others might have an option you don't like?
Quite the opposite. I can't stand that soem are cramming their opinion down my throat at every turn.
P.S I never said there was a market for any such thing. I was tying in the background of the request. I wasn't making a cuasal claim that there was a market ripe for picking. Rather I was saying it's nonsense to bring it up, as this game has never and probably will never even remotely work that way. I even offered an alternative suggestion (longer room titles, IMO the biggest problem of HTH was the short name space limiting what you can describe).
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such private driven server systems are the biggest drawback of other WW2 sims, imagine who all might run their own server, who will join and for what reasons :headscratch:
*Loxy.357 has joined Dhyran's server*
(http://www.7inch.org.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tumbleweed.jpg)
*Loxy.357 was killed by boredom*
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Quite the opposite. I can't stand that soem are cramming their opinion down my throat at every turn.
P.S I never said there was a market for any such thing. I was tying in the background of the request. I wasn't making a cuasal claim that there was a market ripe for picking. Rather I was saying it's nonsense to bring it up, as this game has never and probably will never even remotely work that way. I even offered an alternative suggestion (longer room titles, IMO the biggest problem of HTH was the short name space limiting what you can describe).
Well, when choices are made some people don't get what they want.
The players that do enjoy the no-icon environment with others playing on the same field as they, are SOL.
Now, they are looking to have the game that they want when the H2H arrives.
Seems like a good solution to me.
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Can we stay on topic now?
I meant seeing servers from within Aces high.
I WAS ASKING THE DEV TEAM? will it be possible to see all available server choices ?
What I like about H2H is that paying customers will have a choice to select any server settings they enjoy instead of being limited to one style of play.
This opens up the door for a more divers crowed and more of a customer base obviously...Its inclusive not exclusive.
I don't think that wanting a choice is some horrible agenda Krusty, but I do think censoring free choice as you do is, especially when one pays to play..
I am simply stating facts in reared to Hyper lobby's base preference in relation to their eruo and US player base.. I?m sorry you cant see that..
In regard to flying Il2 I do still fly it along with 3 other sims....on a regular basis...Because of that I have more than one point of reference to pull from.
I do not limit my knowledge to only one online sim like you do. Take your head out of the sand. You have an extremely limited perspective in other words.. your limited in your thinking because you have limited yourself to one online sim.
This post is about the ability of players to view all available H2H servers.
If you have issue with me then PM me. Don't hijack or derail the tread.
Quite the opposite. I can't stand that soem are cramming their opinion down my throat at every turn.
As far as cramming some thing down your throat How do you think I feel? Why don't you learn how to share... I have no choice but to fly icon servers.
Your view is oppressive and dictatorial Now I see why they built the mayflower..
I'm a paying customer and I'm asking a reasonable question .
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I dont get the big deal. When H2H comes back , just run your own room and put "No Icons" in the title. Then people will know there are no icons. The old H2H gave the room operator complete control if i recall, so the new icon settings should be available to the person setting up the room. There is a very small minority of people who will be interested in that kind of play. Chances are you guys are going to have to schedule times to have fights. I highly doubt you'll be able to find a populated room with icons turned off. You'll have to make your own, and invite people to play.
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First off, if you want to ask the development team a question you should email them.
Second any info on H2h is all speculation. All HTC has said is that they are working to bring back a h2h type setup for subscribing customers. Everyone posting here knows better than to ask questions of what is coming next and when. HTC has always.been very quite with any of their development with the game and only announce stuff when it is ready.
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Oh well my work here is done.
If only that were true :D
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I can't stand that soem are cramming their opinion down my throat at every turn.
If that ain't sig material I'll kiss your ass!!! :rofl
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*Loxy.357 has joined Dhyran's server*
(http://www.7inch.org.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tumbleweed.jpg)
*Loxy.357 was killed by boredom*
Very good use of tumbleweed symbolism.
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I'll just quietly sit back and wait until HTC releases the player-spawned arenas. I would speculate that they will list them like they currently list the HTC-hosted mains; perhaps with a separate list as to not clutter the main arena screen.
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I'll just quietly sit back and wait until HTC releases the player-spawned arenas. I would speculate that they will list them like they currently list the HTC-hosted mains; perhaps with a separate list as to not clutter the main arena screen.
That would be nice
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HT has indicated in a couple of other threads that options are up to the h2h host. so I guess things like icons, wind, limit planeset to goons will be up to the host. I am pretty sure there will be a list of public servers and some others that will be listed but will be by invite only. just be aware most likely you won be able to have sharks with fricking lazer beams attached to their heads. so that pony with 10 cannons most likely will not be possible.
aces high h2h will not be any different that all the others, when it comes to providing a list. I have never played nor I have intention to play unless there's a squad thingy going on. I just hope it doesnt go the way of the ww1 arena.
semp
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Raven,
If I recall correctly, the H2H servers came up completely separately from the Main Arena Server's splash screen. In the past, the host's name, number limit for players, players logged in, descriptions such as "FFA" (stood for free for all no killshooter enabled) .... all were displayed the same way that we currently see the Main Arenas listed (maybe some slight differences).
Fugitive,
To be fair to Raven, I don't recall there being an email address listed for H2H or any development team, but there is this cool link to a picture of the creator of the game in a loop maneuver with a real P51 Mustang. http://www.hitechcreations.com/HiTech-Creations/Customer-Relations/gameinfo-aboutus-art.html (http://www.hitechcreations.com/HiTech-Creations/Customer-Relations/gameinfo-aboutus-art.html)
Now for my own wishlist hijack, along the same line. I once asked if map could be identified on the splash screen for the Main Arenas. I felt this would help me to choose my downloads from the homepage rather than by auto download. This would be useful for H2H as well, considering a wider range of maps would be in use.
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Raven,
If I recall correctly, the H2H servers came up completely separately from the Main Arena Server's splash screen. In the past, the host's name, number limit for players, players logged in, descriptions such as "FFA" (stood for free for all no killshooter enabled) .... all were displayed the same way that we currently see the Main Arenas listed (maybe some slight differences).
Now for my own wishlist hijack, along the same line. I once asked if map could be identified on the splash screen for the Main Arenas. I felt this would help me to choose my downloads from the homepage rather than by auto download. This would be useful for H2H as well, considering a wider range of maps would be in use.
Thanks Chilli that sounds good :aok
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I believe kazaa is working on a top secret project but if it means the few and the muppets can endlessly pwn each other 24/7 and argue amongst ourselves for eternity without the inconvenience of the MA or the forum, then it will be much fun.
Those brave enough to enter the ring would also be very welcome.
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Raven,
If I recall correctly, the H2H servers came up completely separately from the Main Arena Server's splash screen. In the past, the host's name, number limit for players, players logged in, descriptions such as "FFA" (stood for free for all no killshooter enabled) .... all were displayed the same way that we currently see the Main Arenas listed (maybe some slight differences).
Fugitive,
To be fair to Raven, I don't recall there being an email address listed for H2H or any development team, but there is this cool link to a picture of the creator of the game in a loop maneuver with a real P51 Mustang. http://www.hitechcreations.com/HiTech-Creations/Customer-Relations/gameinfo-aboutus-art.html (http://www.hitechcreations.com/HiTech-Creations/Customer-Relations/gameinfo-aboutus-art.html)
Now for my own wishlist hijack, along the same line. I once asked if map could be identified on the splash screen for the Main Arenas. I felt this would help me to choose my downloads from the homepage rather than by auto download. This would be useful for H2H as well, considering a wider range of maps would be in use.
HTC is a small company, everyone THERE is part of the development team. An email to any one of them would have gotten a reply. As for what that reply is, who knows. HTC plays all game developments very close to the vest.
The reason I said for him to email them is because anything posted here, other than by an HTC staff member (and they almost never answer these types of questions publicly) would be purely speculation. The old way was to have a H2H heading on the arena list. Click it and it gave you a list of servers available. Most people named then in a way so that you knew what type of playground you were steping into. As for how the new ones will be handled, nobody knows because they will all be on HTC's servers, and no longer hosed by players. You may not even have as much flexablity with the arena setting as they did in the old days. HTC may want to keep a tighter control on everything involved with it so it CAN'T get out of hand this time.
Who knows, only time will tell. The same speculation went on for years about Combat Tour. It may be the same for this as well, it depends on how it all works out.
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Thanks for the explanation Fugi. I agree that we do speculate a lot about things we have no control over. :lol
I did enjoy Raven's graphics and information about what is out there. Who knows, it might actually be a useful tool to promote AH2 to players of other games that may not have heard of it. Well, anyhow, I have known Raven for a while and we agree and disagree on things. He has never been someone that didn't tell me what he was thinking. :eek:
So, I am pretty sure that his curiosity about the splash screen was genuine, and I hope that HTC doesn't get burried with emails about wishlist items. Mainly because I just sent them an email to explain that I need to get to the bank today to continue my subscription. I sure hope that email doesn't land on someone's desk after hours of answering wishlist emails. :bolt: 2 1/2 hours before the bank opens...........